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Tedneb · 03-14-2008, 03:25 PM

From digitaltrends.com:

HD DVD Dies, Blu-ray Prices Rise

By Christopher Nickson
Staff Writer, Digital Trends News

As HD DVD bit the dust, the average prices on Blu-ray players rose last month.

It’s an interesting phenomenon. Just last month Toshiba gave up the good fight on behalf of HD DVD. Since then the average price of Blu-ray high definition DVD players – now the only game in town – have risen between $20 and $50.

Information Week checked prices on comparison site Price Grabber and discovered that in January the average price of the top 10 Blu-ray players stood at $467. A month later it was $604. Whoa! What’s going on there?

It turns out that some of it is a blip, due to new players with better features arriving on the market. But even factoring those out, the average price on Blu-ray players still rose between $20 and $50 last month.

Darren Davis, VP of marketing for Price Grabber, suggested that manufacturers would do themselves a favor by keeping prices low.

"Consumers are not going to jump into the market yet. The demise of HD DVD, if anything, is going to delay Blu-ray adoption, given the increase in prices."

That statement echoes the finding of a survey the company carried out, where 56% of respondents said they’d buy a Blu-ray player if prices were lower.

ryoohki · 03-14-2008, 03:30 PM

There's no price increase. MSRP are the same as always... but Xmas Clearance and Season are finish... and the US economic are going in the Toilet..

Tedneb · 03-14-2008, 03:31 PM

...and another one from ZDNet.com:

March 13th, 2008

Blu-ray Player Prices Spike - Wow, Who Could Have Seen That Coming?

Posted by Josh Taylor @ 8:24 am

I had put myself on a self-imposed exile of sorts on writing about high-def DVDs , but a post over at Tom’s Hardware got me all riled up, so I’m lifting the ban. Turns out that since January 1 (right before the pre-CES announcement that Warner Brothers was leaving HD DVD), prices for every standalone Blu-ray player have spiked.

In fact, the only Blu-ray-capable player to drop in price, was not shockingly, LG’s BH200, which also plays HD DVDs. Based on data from shopping engine PriceGrabber.com, the average price for the BH200 was $999 on January 1, and has gradually fallen to $666 as of March 12 (it hit a low of $607 on February 10) — a 33-percent drop.

Among the other standalone players:

Sony’s BDP-S300 rose 31% ($307 to $403)
Panasonic’s DMP-BD30K rose 20% ($401 to $480)
Samsung’s BD-P1400 rose 18% ($318 to $374)
Sharp’s BD-HP20U rose 14% ($386 to $440)

Krandor · 03-14-2008, 03:31 PM

Lower prices will always get more people to buy. Doesn't take a study to figure that out.

That being said, the increase in prices may be more a prospect of more demand now. I know several people at work who are thinking about buying blu-ray because of the end of the format war. Even have one guy who loves his 360 who is actually thinking about a PS3.

IMind · 03-14-2008, 03:36 PM

It's garbage. First off this is PriceGrabber.Com. This is hardly a great source. Its such a limited view of the market. Second you can find new players around for less than the "average" price. The Samsung BDP-1400 is a great deal right now as long as Samsung continues to patch it. Third it's comparing Christmas sales to no sales... odd. If you compared ANY consumer electronics price from Christmas til now the price will have gone up! (Save HD-DVD players... I wonder why)

This has also been posted to death on here. It's non news spread by former HD-DVD supporters.

DebTraviss · 03-14-2008, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryoohki

There's no price increase. MSRP are the same as always... but Xmas Clearance and Season are finish... and the US economic are going in the Toilet..

MSRP is only one factor in the selling price. All that means is the mfgr. didn't raise the list price. It doesn't mean the retailers aren't jacking up prices due to a lack of competition from HD-DVD. That won't help them in the long run! It looks like those prices are thru early of March, so that doesn't sound like Christmas Clearance to me.

Tedneb · 03-14-2008, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IMind

It's garbage. It's non news spread by former HD-DVD supporters.

In that case, there must a a hell of a lot of HD-DVD supporters in the media. And they DO seem to think it's news

Just sayin'...

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9893149-7.html

http://www.thestandard.com/news/2008...er-prices-rise

http://www.techradar.com/blogs/artic...rprised-266829

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/03/bl..._in_price.html

http://www.gearlog.com/2008/03/blura...highand_ri.php

http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=206903607

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?no_d2...8/03/12/217204

http://www.product-reviews.net/2008/...d-dvd-is-dead/

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/36428/113/

http://www.thestandard.com/news/2008...er-prices-rise

http://www.product-reviews.net/2008/...et-if-not-why/

http://www.thestandard.com/news/2008...er-prices-rise

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9893149-7.html

http://www.audioholics.com/news/edit...e=491620080313

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...-price-blu-ray

http://news.digitaltrends.com/news/s...ay_prices_rise

http://www.pcretailmag.com/news/2954...ay-prices-soar

http://gizmodo.com/366260/whole-blu-...oody-aftermath

Joe Cain · 03-14-2008, 04:03 PM

Sony made gas go up yesterday.

MatrixS2000 · 03-14-2008, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryoohki

There's no price increase. MSRP are the same as always... but Xmas Clearance and Season are finish...

+1 - but why let get the truth get in the way?

MatrixS2000 · 03-14-2008, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DebTraviss

MSRP is only one factor in the selling price. All that means is the mfgr. didn't raise the list price. It doesn't mean the retailers aren't jacking up prices due to a lack of competition from HD-DVD. That won't help them in the long run! It looks like those prices are thru early of March, so that doesn't sound like Christmas Clearance to me.

You do understand that Christmas only comes once a year right? After the Christmas sale is over prices go back up....

So unless retailers choose to have a sale, the pricing will go up when compared to the Christmas SALE price!

Tedneb · 03-14-2008, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Cain

Sony made gas go up yesterday.

Really? I heard that was the creeps at Best Buy.

RUR · 03-14-2008, 04:15 PM

Another one of these threads? Seems like we need a stickied player price discussion thread, similar to the one created a couple of days ago for media prices, where all these "articles" can be posted and discussed. That way I only have to ignore one thread.

MatrixS2000 · 03-14-2008, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUR

Another one of these threads?

No kidding...coming onto a site called blu-ray.com with members that already OWN blu-ray players and telling us it's too expensive...logic?????

Grubert · 03-14-2008, 04:28 PM

Well over here prices are doing fine, thank you:

Samsung BD-P1400:

Sony BDP-S300:

Graphs from German/Austrian price comparison site geizhals.at

savage1984 · 03-14-2008, 04:33 PM

quality post Groob.

hc666 · 03-14-2008, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grubert

Well over here prices are doing fine, thank you:

Samsung BD-P1400:

Sony BDP-S300:

Graphs from German/Austrian price comparison site geizhals.at

Too bad the Samsung machines are junk and the word has getting around. The are cheaper for a reason. Whereas the Panny, Sonys...etc are still too high. Great players, Panny30 is amazing but would like to see it around 350.

We need quality BD players for good prices. Esp for new buyers. If I just heard of blu recently and bought one of those samsung machines I would likley take it back and stay with DVD. The firmware update side of it is silly as well. No one wants something that is broken out of the box.

hc666 · 03-14-2008, 04:45 PM

This drives me crazy. Nice prices FS... for me to poop on!

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/sub...EN&catid=25323

pedigree · 03-14-2008, 04:46 PM

in terms of media (i.e. actual blu ray discs) the prices have not fluxuated more that a dollar or two upwards in this post-war time. the grounds for this thread are weak. its been said before and this is my personal opinion but to compare prices during the christmas/holiday season as well as during the format war to those now mainly due to competitive bargaining as well as the phenomenon of supply and demand. economics 101, you got learned

spam.curitiba · 03-14-2008, 04:47 PM

It could be because the demand of the machines has gone up...

savage1984 · 03-14-2008, 04:52 PM

The real problem is NOT price OKAY. It has to do with PROFILES.

I won't buy my parents a blu-ray player until the Sony Profile 2.0/ DTS-HDMA Blu-ray players come out this summer. It's just that simple!!!

Why invest in an expensive player that won't be able to do all the features that blu-ray will have the potential to do?? Buy a ps3 and shut your yammering... or wait and buy a profile 2.0. The hefty price will be justifiable by then.

03-14-2008, 03:25 PM	#1
Tedneb Junior Member Member since:Feb 2008	Not the best way to go mainstream From digitaltrends.com: HD DVD Dies, Blu-ray Prices Rise By Christopher Nickson Staff Writer, Digital Trends News As HD DVD bit the dust, the average prices on Blu-ray players rose last month. It’s an interesting phenomenon. Just last month Toshiba gave up the good fight on behalf of HD DVD. Since then the average price of Blu-ray high definition DVD players – now the only game in town – have risen between $20 and $50. Information Week checked prices on comparison site Price Grabber and discovered that in January the average price of the top 10 Blu-ray players stood at $467. A month later it was $604. Whoa! What’s going on there? It turns out that some of it is a blip, due to new players with better features arriving on the market. But even factoring those out, the average price on Blu-ray players still rose between $20 and $50 last month. Darren Davis, VP of marketing for Price Grabber, suggested that manufacturers would do themselves a favor by keeping prices low. "Consumers are not going to jump into the market yet. The demise of HD DVD, if anything, is going to delay Blu-ray adoption, given the increase in prices." That statement echoes the finding of a survey the company carried out, where 56% of respondents said they’d buy a Blu-ray player if prices were lower.

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03-14-2008, 03:30 PM	#2
ryoohki Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2007 Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:5	There's no price increase. MSRP are the same as always... but Xmas Clearance and Season are finish... and the US economic are going in the Toilet..

03-14-2008, 03:31 PM	#3
Tedneb Junior Member Member since:Feb 2008	...and another one from ZDNet.com: March 13th, 2008 Blu-ray Player Prices Spike - Wow, Who Could Have Seen That Coming? Posted by Josh Taylor @ 8:24 am I had put myself on a self-imposed exile of sorts on writing about high-def DVDs , but a post over at Tom’s Hardware got me all riled up, so I’m lifting the ban. Turns out that since January 1 (right before the pre-CES announcement that Warner Brothers was leaving HD DVD), prices for every standalone Blu-ray player have spiked. In fact, the only Blu-ray-capable player to drop in price, was not shockingly, LG’s BH200, which also plays HD DVDs. Based on data from shopping engine PriceGrabber.com, the average price for the BH200 was $999 on January 1, and has gradually fallen to $666 as of March 12 (it hit a low of $607 on February 10) — a 33-percent drop. Among the other standalone players: Sony’s BDP-S300 rose 31% ($307 to $403) Panasonic’s DMP-BD30K rose 20% ($401 to $480) Samsung’s BD-P1400 rose 18% ($318 to $374) Sharp’s BD-HP20U rose 14% ($386 to $440)

03-14-2008, 03:31 PM	#4
Krandor Active Member Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray collection:6	Lower prices will always get more people to buy. Doesn't take a study to figure that out. That being said, the increase in prices may be more a prospect of more demand now. I know several people at work who are thinking about buying blu-ray because of the end of the format war. Even have one guy who loves his 360 who is actually thinking about a PS3.

03-14-2008, 03:36 PM	#5
IMind Active Member Member since:Jan 2008	It's garbage. First off this is PriceGrabber.Com. This is hardly a great source. Its such a limited view of the market. Second you can find new players around for less than the "average" price. The Samsung BDP-1400 is a great deal right now as long as Samsung continues to patch it. Third it's comparing Christmas sales to no sales... odd. If you compared ANY consumer electronics price from Christmas til now the price will have gone up! (Save HD-DVD players... I wonder why) This has also been posted to death on here. It's non news spread by former HD-DVD supporters.

03-14-2008, 04:03 PM	#8
Joe Cain Power Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:The Tragic City Blu-ray collection:79	Sony made gas go up yesterday.

03-14-2008, 04:15 PM	#12
RUR Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Abiit, excessit, evasit, erupit Blu-ray collection:143 Trading Score:1	Another one of these threads? Seems like we need a stickied player price discussion thread, similar to the one created a couple of days ago for media prices, where all these "articles" can be posted and discussed. That way I only have to ignore one thread.

03-14-2008, 04:28 PM	#14
Grubert Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jan 2006 Blu-ray collection:573 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:2	Well over here prices are doing fine, thank you: Samsung BD-P1400: Sony BDP-S300: Graphs from German/Austrian price comparison site geizhals.at

03-14-2008, 04:33 PM	#15
savage1984 Banned Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Los Angeles	quality post Groob.

03-14-2008, 04:45 PM	#17
hc666 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2007 Home Theater Gallery:7 Blu-ray collection:100 Blu-ray reviews: 26	This drives me crazy. Nice prices FS... for me to poop on! http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/sub...EN&catid=25323

03-14-2008, 04:46 PM	#18
pedigree Power Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Montreal, Canada	in terms of media (i.e. actual blu ray discs) the prices have not fluxuated more that a dollar or two upwards in this post-war time. the grounds for this thread are weak. its been said before and this is my personal opinion but to compare prices during the christmas/holiday season as well as during the format war to those now mainly due to competitive bargaining as well as the phenomenon of supply and demand. economics 101, you got learned

03-14-2008, 04:47 PM	#19
spam.curitiba Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:172 Blu-ray reviews:2	It could be because the demand of the machines has gone up...

03-14-2008, 04:52 PM	#20
savage1984 Banned Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Los Angeles	The real problem is NOT price OKAY. It has to do with PROFILES. I won't buy my parents a blu-ray player until the Sony Profile 2.0/ DTS-HDMA Blu-ray players come out this summer. It's just that simple!!! Why invest in an expensive player that won't be able to do all the features that blu-ray will have the potential to do?? Buy a ps3 and shut your yammering... or wait and buy a profile 2.0. The hefty price will be justifiable by then.

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