Dersu Uzala (Akira Kurosawa) - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

define · 09-22-2018, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucabeer

I confirm that the biggest complaint is the softness in several scenes

tbh even the 4k restoration of ran had a much softer lights etc..
unless there is a lack of detail its not even a bad thing

Dragun · 09-26-2018, 01:35 AM

Has there been a proper restoration of this film?

n0tredom · 12-19-2018, 12:01 AM

I just watched this today. My only real complaint is that you can't turn off the Italian subtitles when watching in Russian. Luckily, the Oppo 203/205 can play alternate subs from a USB drive at the same time as these forced subs from the disc. One trick I noticed is to go into the player's settings and move the subtitle display location as far down as possible before starting the movie, select the alternate subs from the USB once the movie starts, then reset the subtitles to the position that you like by holding down the "Subtitle" button for 3 seconds. Doing so will put the forced subs mostly off the screen and the alternate subs will be in the normal location.

John_Drake · 06-20-2019, 07:49 PM

Sorry for resurrecting this thread but...

Can anyone advise as to whether Dersu Uzala has forced subs?

Gugast · 12-18-2019, 11:09 PM

Akira Kurosawa's Dersu Uzala (1975) will be released in Spain in 2020.

http://www.mubis.es/noticias/anuncio...ala-el-cazador

5meohd · 07-01-2022, 12:39 PM

https://viavision.com.au/shop/dersu-...ollection-158/

Here's hoping it's had a restoration! They don't mention anything like that in the features list.

Labor_Unit001 · 07-01-2022, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5meohd

https://viavision.com.au/shop/dersu-...ollection-158/

Here's hoping it's had a restoration! They don't mention anything like that in the features list.

The listing also mentions English 5.1 sound which I assume is an error. Hopefully they update it soon to the correct language.

Regardless, exciting to finally see this come to blu in english territories.

baygle3 · 07-04-2022, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Labor_Unit001

The listing also mentions English 5.1 sound which I assume is an error. Hopefully they update it soon to the correct language.

Regardless, exciting to finally see this come to blu in english territories.

Imprint website now shows Dersu Uzala with - Audio Original Russian DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 - Optional English subtitles. Thank Goodness

baygle3 · 09-23-2022, 02:32 AM

I got my copy this morning and had a quick look through different scenes. Unfortunately it's not blu-ray quality but I'm very happy I have a copy of this wonderful film. It is Russian DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 with subtitles. The surround sound in a forest scene was convincing.

My best description would be a cleaned up copy of an early DVD.

Aardvark_DK · 09-23-2022, 07:54 AM

Bummer.

Dragun · 09-23-2022, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baygle3

I got my copy this morning and had a quick look through different scenes. Unfortunately it's not blu-ray quality but I'm very happy I have a copy of this wonderful film. It is Russian DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 with subtitles. The surround sound in a forest scene was convincing.

My best description would be a cleaned up copy of an early DVD.

What's the frame rate on it? No PAL speed-up, I hope. How does it compare to the Artificial Eye DVD?

Doomhunter · 10-07-2022, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragun

What's the frame rate on it? No PAL speed-up, I hope. How does it compare to the Artificial Eye DVD?

At any rate DVDBeaver has a review up

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcompare/dersuuzala.htm

n0tredom · 10-20-2022, 01:18 PM

I compared the Australian versus the Italian disc last night for the first half hour of the film. The Australian disc is consistently darker than the Italian one and the detail suffers a little bit as a result, but I prefer the consistency of the Australian disc because it doesn't flicker as much.

The video bit rate of the Australian disc seems to be upper 30s while the Italian disc is lower 30s. The audio of the Australian disc also sounds better (double the bit rate) and there are unforced English subs available, whereas the Italian disc has forced Italian subs when listening to the Russian audio.

I used a known region B disc (Eureka's Nosferatu) with my Oppo 205 to confirm the Australian disc will play both region A and B. The Italian disc is locked to region B.

I don't have the Spanish disc to compare, but until this movie gets properly restored to hopefully be put in some big Kurosawa boxed set at some point in the future, the Australian disc is the one I'd use to watch this film.

scarletlion · 11-29-2022, 12:29 PM

This is now on Mosfilm Youtube site. Anyone know if it a restored version in any way? Or just a copy of the scrubbed up DVD version?

Aardvark_DK · 11-30-2022, 07:04 PM

It looks similar to the BD but with the usual Youtube compression. I don't think any version of Dersu has been restored.

Douglas R · 12-04-2022, 04:08 PM

The picture quality of Dersu Uzala was always soft, even on 70mm prints. I saw it in that format on first release at the Curzon Mayfair.

Tuc0 · 01-06-2023, 07:23 PM

This i indeed quite a soft transfer and somewhere between a proper DVD quality and a poor blu-ray. This is of course just how it is going to be until this film gets a restoration and might even be quite a feat to achieve. However I would not set this release aside for that. It is mostly consistent quality throughout with healthy colors and does not have much noticeable downfalls due to dirt or scratches. Picture is soft. It will allways be soft but it will be a notch more detailed if it gets a proper restoration for sure. I am pleased that we got what we got. A nice slip and artwork and a nice step up from the DVD. Of course I got my hopes up that there was some proper hd transfer they got their hands on but I was certainly not expecting it so just to own this in a watchable state is a major thing for me. Don't let the transfers downfalls stop you from getting it. There are a lot of benefits you get from this release and this is a film you should not skip.

RFK · 01-06-2023, 07:38 PM

I tried to watch the Kino DVD on my jvc projector and it looked horrible. The Imprint bluray, while not perfect looked very good projected on my 2.40:1 screen. Very pleased to be able to watch and enjoy this again. Position of the subtitles being half in the black letterboxing on the disc however required me to raise them up a bit with my oppo bluray player so they weren't cut off on the bottom.

Tuc0 · 01-06-2023, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RFK

I tried to watch the Kino DVD on my jvc projector and it looked horrible. The Imprint bluray, while not perfect looked very good projected on my 2.40:1 screen. The position of the subtitles on the disc however required me to raise them with my oppo bluray player so they weren't cut off on the bottom.

Yeah the subtitles are divided by the bar on this release. Great that you found it decent enough to watch and I agree the DVD was a chore to go through.

01-06-2023, 07:38 PM	#38
RFK Senior Member Member since:Apr 2015	I tried to watch the Kino DVD on my jvc projector and it looked horrible. The Imprint bluray, while not perfect looked very good projected on my 2.40:1 screen. Very pleased to be able to watch and enjoy this again. Position of the subtitles being half in the black letterboxing on the disc however required me to raise them up a bit with my oppo bluray player so they weren't cut off on the bottom. Last edited by RFK; 01-06-2023 at 07:43 PM.

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09-26-2018, 01:35 AM	#22
Dragun Power Member Member since:May 2010 4K collection:76 Blu-ray collection:770	Has there been a proper restoration of this film?

12-19-2018, 12:01 AM	#23
n0tredom Active Member Member since:Jun 2011 4K collection:22 Blu-ray collection:1855 DVD collection:250	I just watched this today. My only real complaint is that you can't turn off the Italian subtitles when watching in Russian. Luckily, the Oppo 203/205 can play alternate subs from a USB drive at the same time as these forced subs from the disc. One trick I noticed is to go into the player's settings and move the subtitle display location as far down as possible before starting the movie, select the alternate subs from the USB once the movie starts, then reset the subtitles to the position that you like by holding down the "Subtitle" button for 3 seconds. Doing so will put the forced subs mostly off the screen and the alternate subs will be in the normal location.

06-20-2019, 07:49 PM	#24
John_Drake Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2013 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:3442 Trading Score:92	Sorry for resurrecting this thread but... Can anyone advise as to whether Dersu Uzala has forced subs?

07-01-2022, 12:39 PM	#26
5meohd Active Member Member since:Jan 2012 4K collection:307 Blu-ray collection:2599 DVD collection:45 Blu-ray reviews:3	https://viavision.com.au/shop/dersu-...ollection-158/ Here's hoping it's had a restoration! They don't mention anything like that in the features list.

09-23-2022, 02:32 AM	#29
baygle3 New Member Member since:Aug 2011 Location:Bulli, NSW Australia 4K collection:9 Blu-ray collection:345 DVD collection:25	I got my copy this morning and had a quick look through different scenes. Unfortunately it's not blu-ray quality but I'm very happy I have a copy of this wonderful film. It is Russian DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 with subtitles. The surround sound in a forest scene was convincing. My best description would be a cleaned up copy of an early DVD.

09-23-2022, 07:54 AM	#30
Aardvark_DK Active Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Copenhagen, Denmark	Bummer.

10-20-2022, 01:18 PM	#33
n0tredom Active Member Member since:Jun 2011 4K collection:22 Blu-ray collection:1855 DVD collection:250	I compared the Australian versus the Italian disc last night for the first half hour of the film. The Australian disc is consistently darker than the Italian one and the detail suffers a little bit as a result, but I prefer the consistency of the Australian disc because it doesn't flicker as much. The video bit rate of the Australian disc seems to be upper 30s while the Italian disc is lower 30s. The audio of the Australian disc also sounds better (double the bit rate) and there are unforced English subs available, whereas the Italian disc has forced Italian subs when listening to the Russian audio. I used a known region B disc (Eureka's Nosferatu) with my Oppo 205 to confirm the Australian disc will play both region A and B. The Italian disc is locked to region B. I don't have the Spanish disc to compare, but until this movie gets properly restored to hopefully be put in some big Kurosawa boxed set at some point in the future, the Australian disc is the one I'd use to watch this film.

11-30-2022, 07:04 PM	#35
Aardvark_DK Active Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Copenhagen, Denmark	It looks similar to the BD but with the usual Youtube compression. I don't think any version of Dersu has been restored.

12-04-2022, 04:08 PM	#36
Douglas R Expert Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:London, UK Blu-ray collection:197	The picture quality of Dersu Uzala was always soft, even on 70mm prints. I saw it in that format on first release at the Curzon Mayfair.

01-06-2023, 07:23 PM	#37
Tuc0 Special Member Member since:May 2018 Location:Finland 4K collection:251 Blu-ray collection:1209 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:4	This i indeed quite a soft transfer and somewhere between a proper DVD quality and a poor blu-ray. This is of course just how it is going to be until this film gets a restoration and might even be quite a feat to achieve. However I would not set this release aside for that. It is mostly consistent quality throughout with healthy colors and does not have much noticeable downfalls due to dirt or scratches. Picture is soft. It will allways be soft but it will be a notch more detailed if it gets a proper restoration for sure. I am pleased that we got what we got. A nice slip and artwork and a nice step up from the DVD. Of course I got my hopes up that there was some proper hd transfer they got their hands on but I was certainly not expecting it so just to own this in a watchable state is a major thing for me. Don't let the transfers downfalls stop you from getting it. There are a lot of benefits you get from this release and this is a film you should not skip.

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