Films cut by distrubitors

[Alister_M]

Ah yes, good old SOA. All the violence, murder and rape you can stomach, but don't dare drop any naughty words that rhyme with puck or punt.

[SillyG]

Originally Posted by Rick Grimes

Apparently they would say the Cock, Pus$y, Shit, As$hole, and use the N-word countless times (as well as other derogatory racial slurs). It is questionable which is more profane, the N-word or the F-bomb, and a lot of Reddit and other blogs point the former out specifically, as well as some of the graphic violence.

All of those words are permissible at the PG rating. Use of cock or "feline" in a sexual context could however result in a higher rating, however that could be more of a "sexual references" issue than one pertaining to "coarse language" in and of itself. The N-word is also permissible at PG (and I assume most other derogatory epithets).

I don't think it has always been this way, but the ACB no longer appears to register the N-word as "coarse language', but instead subsumes it under the umbrella of "themes", which I think is a bit stupid, particularly in instances where the word is not necessarily used with ill-intent per se (in which case, it should be flagged under "coarse language").

Originally Posted by Rick Grimes

I can’t find anywhere, even with parents groups warnings, where an F-bomb was used.

If you're referring to the Parent's Guide on IMDb, they usually only refer to what is in the feature itself, as opposed to any supplementary materials on the DVD/Blu-ray. They're also quite often rubbish, especially now that each contribution needs to be approved by IMDb staff (and they approve a lot of crap too), unlike the old way, where I could just delete the whole lot and stick to providing succinct and spoiler-free information regarding the film's content (I usually refrain from mentioning character's names or referring to their sex unless absolutely relevant), and if somebody makes a stupid alteration to my edit, I could just revert it from a dropdown menu.

Originally Posted by Rick Grimes

That could have changed on the Blu-Ray, but even with the Blu-Ray, no one is saying they dropped any F-bombs.

I wasn't suggesting that the episodes themselves were modified. I was suggesting that perhaps the audio commentaries, interviews, blooper reels etc. may contain stronger uses of coarse language not otherwise used on the show proper, hence why they were flagged at the MA15+ level.

[Rick Grimes]

Originally Posted by SillyG

I wasn't suggesting that the episodes themselves were modified. I was suggesting that perhaps the audio commentaries, interviews, blooper reels etc. may contain stronger uses of coarse language not otherwise used on the show proper, hence why they were flagged at the MA15+ level.

It would be great if the eps were modified, that way the sting of me paying over $100 for the complete series won’t sting as much, and I might just choose to watch it.

Movie-Censorship.com will normally have posts for a film if it differs on Blu-Ray from it’s original broadcast.

If there were F-bombs in the extras of SOA and not in the show itself (I appreciate that sometimes the blooper reel isn’t “bleeped”), that would be hilarious.

I believe that one of the Die Hard Box Sets gets an MA15+ rating because of something on the extras disc, which, again, I find both humorous and perplexing.

[Alister_M]

The SOA BD's have a lot of "Extended" episodes, whether any of those have added cussing I'm not sure. I still need to watch further than the first few episodes of S1 on disc, and then continue to finish the last 4 seasons

[Rick Grimes]

Thanks for the notice re: SOA extended eps. If they did have F-bombs, you’d think that somewhere online, someone would have mentioned it. Can’t find anything on the extended eps rundown on Movie Censorship.com.

[SillyG]

Originally Posted by Rick Grimes

I believe that one of the Die Hard Box Sets gets an MA15+ rating because of something on the extras disc, which, again, I find both humorous and perplexing.

You must be referring to this:
https://www.classification.gov.au/ti...onus-disc-2012

And it's bizarre to think that the Board found the violence in the context of behind-the-scenes footage to be stronger than when it was in context, because violence that is depicted in a manner that diminishes its realism typically serves as a mitigating factor.

It's not uncommon though for ratings to be bumped up due to bonus features.

Ren and Stimpy: Season Three and a Half-ish
Bumped up to M (Incidental moderate sexual references) due to one of the audio commentary tracks. It received a 12 rating in the UK for similar reasons.

Get Smart - Season Two
Said to be "volume 12", one disc from Season Two was classified M for "Infrequent moderate coarse language", likely due to something naughty lurking in the bonus features.

The Simpsons - Seasons 12, 14, and 15
Discs 1 and 4 of Season 12 were classified M for "Infrequent coarse language" and "Incidental coarse language" respectively. Disc 1 includes a "deleted scene" featuring an adlib from The Who's Roger Daltrey. When he knocks Marge out with his microphone in A Tale of Two Springfields, he normally says "Get out of the way, Marge!" in the alternate version, he says, "Shut the f*** up, Marge!" which was an amusing inclusion. I can't help but suspect that the consumer advice between the two discs was swapped in error as Disc 4 contains two uses of coarse language: one in the audio commentary track for Children of a Lesser Clod, and there is a complete deleted scenes reel, which repeats the scene from Disc 1. The idiot in charge of pasting the classification on the box obviously didn't know what "incidental" meant, and rather than labelling the consumer advice simply as "Infrequent coarse language", they (annoyingly) pasted "Infrequent and incidental coarse language" on the packaging. At least they didn't include the consumer advice from the PG-rated discs, which would have been even worse.

Fox stopped submitting the seasons on a disc-by-disc basis after Season 13, and Seasons 14 and 15 in their entirety were classified M for "Infrequent coarse language", solely due to commentary tracks (subsequent seasons were rated M for other reasons).

Baby Mama
Bumped up from its theatrical rating of PG (Mild coarse language and sexual references) to M (Infrequent coarse language) due to a single F-bomb in a deleted scene. I also recall Seven airing the film with an M rating because they were too stupid to do their homework.

The Longest Ride
Bumped up from M (Mature themes and sex scenes) to MA15+ (Strong sex scene) due to an extended and slightly more graphic version of one of the film's sex scenes in the bonus features.

Boss Baby
Bumped from G (Very mild themes) to PG (Mild themes, some scenes may scare young children) likely due to bonus features (which include deleted scenes and what I assume are short films).

Little Women (2019)
Bumped from G (Very mild themes) to PG (Mild coarse language) likely due to the behind-the-scenes footage/interviews.

A Place In The Sun
Bumped from G to PG (War footage) due to the inclusion of a documentary.

Monty Python's Flying Circus
Disc 8 in Sony's DVD release, comprised entirely of bonus features, was classified M (Infrequent coarse language), bumping the set from what would have otherwise been PG (Mild themes and sexual references, Mild comedic violence, Mild nudity, Mild coarse language). This content wasn't included in Via Vision's release of the remaster (though that contained an unclassified bonus feature where Gilliam drops an F-bomb).

Monty Python's Life of Brian
The "Immaculate Edition" DVD/Blu-ray release bumps the film up from M (Adult themes, Low level coarse language) to MA15+ (Strong coarse language, Satirical humour) all because Terry Jones drops the c-word once in the audio commentary track. The "Satirical humour" chestnut is laughably superfluous though and had no bearing on the submission's MA15+ rating. More recently, a 2019 theatrical re-release of the film was rated M for "Mature themes, coarse language and nudity".

Monty Python and the Holy Grail
The 40th anniversary DVD/Blu-ray gets bumped from PG (Mild comedic violence, coarse language and sexual references) to M (Coarse language) thanks to a new half-hour bonus feature depicting a conversation between the surviving Pythons.

[Levi0ffline]

It appears that Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile will be coming to Blu-Ray/DVD uncut down under.
The title has been approved for home release by OFLC AUS, and it has been given its original PG rating (with the consumer advice of ‘Mild Themes’).

https://www.classification.gov.au/ti...e-crocodile-bd

[SillyG]

Originally Posted by Levi0ffline

It appears that Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile will be coming to Blu-Ray/DVD uncut down under.

That's good news. I expected nothing less.

It's unfortunate that some releases remain censored on home video, though this usually only applies to films that are rated M when uncut (and intended for family audiences), such as Instant Family and My Spy (the latter likely would have received a PG if they bothered to appeal it).

Bumblebee is a unique case where it seems that the distributor went back and forth trying to strike a balance between the U.K. and Australian systems as they intended for our versions of the home video releases to be identical.

Film (uncensored): M (Australia), 12 (UK)
Film (cut): M (Australia), PG (Australia, after review), PG (UK)
DVD (cut): PG (Australia), PG (UK)
Blu-ray/UHD (cut film, presumably uncut bonus features): M (Australia), 12 (UK)
Blu-ray/UHD (cut film, 2 minutes of bonus features cut): M (Australia), PG (UK)

I'm don't know if they attempted to further cut the violence in the bonus features in order to attempt to secure a PG rating for both markets. It seems like it ended up costing them a fair bit in the end with the numerous resubmissions. Either way, I don't know why anybody would bother with the awful Australian releases as both the film and the bonus features have been sliced and diced in a futile attempt to secure a PG rating.

[Rick Grimes]

Originally Posted by SillyG

That's good news. I expected nothing less.

It's unfortunate that some releases remain censored on home video, though this usually only applies to films that are rated M when uncut (and intended for family audiences), such as Instant Family and My Spy (the latter likely would have received a PG if they bothered to appeal it).

Bumblebee is a unique case where it seems that the distributor went back and forth trying to strike a balance between the U.K. and Australian systems as they intended for our versions of the home video releases to be identical.

Film (uncensored): M (Australia), 12 (UK)
Film (cut): M (Australia), PG (Australia, after review), PG (UK)
DVD (cut): PG (Australia), PG (UK)
Blu-ray/UHD (cut film, presumably uncut bonus features): M (Australia), 12 (UK)
Blu-ray/UHD (cut film, 2 minutes of bonus features cut): M (Australia), PG (UK)

I'm don't know if they attempted to further cut the violence in the bonus features in order to attempt to secure a PG rating for both markets. It seems like it ended up costing them a fair bit in the end with the numerous resubmissions. Either way, I don't know why anybody would bother with the awful Australian releases as both the film and the bonus features have been sliced and diced in a futile attempt to secure a PG rating.

I thought the Aussie Blu-Rays were PG, but the UHD was M since they used the international cut on Ultra-HD and had the cut disc for the Blu-Ray. But it appears that the Blu-Ray is M (obviously for the extras), and the same for the UHD, since the UK UHD release is PG, the Aussie dizzy could have used the British UHD disc. Unlike John Wick 3, which has the modified Blu-Ray release rated MA15+, but the combined BD+UHD as R18+, since the 2160p disc is uncut.

After I heard about the “injury detail” issue with Bumblebee, I imported the 4K, also wanting a Blu-Ray disc that was uncut. Not going to put up with the ACB’s bullshit.

I thought it was just that one scene for Bumblebee (akin to John Wick 3 and the zoomed in eye stab to get an MA15+). If they did copy the British BD, cut for cut, here’s what they cut (c/o of Movie-Censorship.com):

https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=318526

Since Ghostbusters:Afterlife got an M from the ACB initially, and then got a PG on appeal, with no cuts; perhaps Paramount needs to hire whoever debated/submitted their appeal. IMO, Afterlife is a film that plays like a “traditional” PG-13 film that would most likely get an M in Australia automatically.

[Alister_M]

Once again dropping in to kick up a fuss about the fact that Bumblebee was an uncut PG in NZ cinemas, then we got lumped with cut Aussie bullshit discs because the NZ branch of ParaUniSonyEtc was too lazy/cheap to get in some uncut US discs for an appropriately uncut release here. If anything the NZ release is illegal since it's not even the same version that was classified for release here.

[Levi0ffline]

Originally Posted by Alister_M

Once again dropping in to kick up a fuss about the fact that Bumblebee was an uncut PG in NZ cinemas, then we got lumped with cut Aussie bullshit discs because the NZ branch of ParaUniSonyEtc was too lazy/cheap to get in some uncut US discs for an appropriately uncut release here. If anything the NZ release is illegal since it's not even the same version that was classified for release here.

That disc was actually rated in NZ, but it was cross-rated from the Australian 4K (Which I think was M for some reason), and that version was still cut.

[Alister_M]

Originally Posted by Levi0ffline

That disc was actually rated in NZ, but it was cross-rated from the Australian 4K (Which I think was M for some reason), and that version was still cut.

Yeah it's just entirely ridiculous. Reminds me of the bad old DVD days when Fox used to fob off PAL masters of BBFC-cut titles like Braveheart on us and everyone else in PAL-land just because they couldn't be arsed making a separate master for the poor censorship-burdened limeys.

[Rick Grimes]

Originally Posted by Levi0ffline

That disc was actually rated in NZ, but it was cross-rated from the Australian 4K (Which I think was M for some reason), and that version was still cut.

So glad I imported the 4K then. If I’m not mistaken the M rating is due to some of the extras still showing the “injury detail” and other shite considered too violent, unless you are “Mature”

Originally Posted by Alister_M

Yeah it's just entirely ridiculous. Reminds me of the bad old DVD days when Fox used to fob off PAL masters of BBFC-cut titles like Braveheart on us and everyone else in PAL-land just because they couldn't be arsed making a separate master for the poor censorship-burdened limeys.

It’s ridiculous and lazy. I’ve mentioned it before, but will say it again. EOne had to cut a bunch of gore for the outside of North America release of The Walking Dead Season 1. Instead of doing one for Germany and an uncut for the ROTW, all Region B releases (including Oz and NZ) are censored. Ironically, when cooler heads prevailed with Germany’s FSK and the uncut S1 was passed with an FSK 18, Germany got an uncut edition. And EOne never revisited the release in any other territory.



Any fans of TWD, get a Region A player and buy the US Anchor Bay release, as it also has all the music uncut (ending music). Even the uncut Region B version, like the original EOne, does not have the same music playing from the final scene in the Pilot, through the fade to black and into the credits. Jarringly, the theme song cuts in instead. Assume it is due to music licensing issues.