Watching 3D Movies on VR (Virtual Reality) Headsets

[D00mM4r1n3]

I bought the Oculus Quest 2 on Saturday and loving it so far. I bought the Skybox app as well and have been using it to watch stuff from my Plex server. The only thing that sucks is having to convert my 3D Blu-ray backups to SBS since my server doesn't have a powerful CPU, it takes forever. Next thing I'm going to get are prescription lenses from VR Wave.

[BossTweed]

Originally Posted by D00mM4r1n3

I bought the Oculus Quest 2 on Saturday and loving it so far. I bought the Skybox app as well and have been using it to watch stuff from my Plex server. The only thing that sucks is having to convert my 3D Blu-ray backups to SBS since my server doesn't have a powerful CPU, it takes forever. Next thing I'm going to get are prescription lenses from VR Wave.

I'm considering getting the Quest 2. Can you view VR files from yourPC/Laptop on it?

[BossTweed]

I bought the Oculus Quest 2 headset a few months back. Yesterday, I bought a Samsung Galaxy A7 Tablet. It is compatible with the Quest 2 whereas my Dell Lattitude laptop wasn't. I got the Quest 2 working late last night.

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by D00mM4r1n3

I bought the Oculus Quest 2 on Saturday and loving it so far. I bought the Skybox app as well and have been using it to watch stuff from my Plex server. The only thing that sucks is having to convert my 3D Blu-ray backups to SBS since my server doesn't have a powerful CPU, it takes forever. Next thing I'm going to get are prescription lenses from VR Wave.

Just use a player like Stereoscopic player on your PC that can convert your 3D blu-ray rip to OU or SBS on the fly. Then use Virtual Desktop to convert the OU/SBS image to 3D on the Quest.There are two versions of the VD client, the Quest client works well for 99% of what I have watched on 3D. If you have a decent PC then the Steam client is better because it utilises the PC GPU. Unfortunately Skybox can mirror the desktop but only using it's desktop client.

Either way you need decent Wifi for this to work well. Wifi N is the bare minimum but Wifi AC is recommended.

Hope this helps

[Freakyguy666]

Originally Posted by cdx47

Virtual Reality.

Thats low resolution….not a great option….

[Freakyguy666]

Originally Posted by Just_Discovered_3D

Thanks for the tip about Cinemark. Currently there are no 3D showings whatsoever scheduled at the Cinemark, but Dune 3D didn't appear here until a surprise announcement last Monday so maybe that will happen again this week, I'll keep an eye out for it.





VR isn't up to at least 1920*1080 per eye yet?

Does VR show both 3d frames to both eyes simultaneously?

Nope.
&
Yes.

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by Freakyguy666

Thats low resolution….not a great option….

lol. First of all the total resolution is more than enough for a great 3D image. I've watched dozens of 3D movies and for the most part they look great. Secondly I watch full resolution discs upscaled to 4K. So while the per eye resolution might be lower the total resolution is still great. Even if I didn't upscale to 4K they still look great running at full 1080p.

There's advantages and disadvantages in everything. But I get to watch films on everything from a computer monitor to IMAX sized cinema screens without needing projection equipment. How many people have IMAX sized projector screens anyway? All I need is the 3D visor and a PC or laptop and I can watch my discs anywhere. My PC is connected to my home cinema receiver so I get full Atmos/True HD DTS:x/DTS-HD sound.

The only potential concern I have is that films with weak 3D like Blade Runner 2049 might need all the resolution they can get per eye. I don't know if this is the case though because almost every MCU, Transformers, Hong Kong, Disney, modern animation and classic 1950s 3D disc I have has good to outstanding 3D. Out of my nearly 200 3D discs there's probably only a handful (like Winter Soldier) that I would say the 3d makes no difference at all.

[dmuennich]

Originally Posted by Freakyguy666

Nope.
&
Yes.

Yes
&
Yes

VR is most certainly at 3840 x 2160 and soon to be at 6144 x 3160 pixels ****PER EYE****

Not the mainstream Oculus or HTC but very real and amazing..
I own this...have watched 3D movies on it...

https://pimax.com/product/vision-8k-x/

https://pimax.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjwoP6...xoCMBEQAvD_BwE

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by Freakyguy666

Thats low resolution….not a great option….

Cinera is 1440p x 2560 / eye (LCD) Hopefully they soon release their damn OLED one

I have an OLED one that's 1080p x 1920 which is fine for the Academy and Widescreen 3-D ratio discs, but hoping for the Cinera release, which would be nicer for the CinemaScope and IMAX 3-D ratio discs as the image should be proper 1.33x wider for them.

[Freakyguy666]

Originally Posted by dmuennich

Yes
&
Yes

VR is most certainly at 3840 x 2160 and soon to be at 6144 x 3160 pixels ****PER EYE****

Not the mainstream Oculus or HTC but very real and amazing..
I own this...have watched 3D movies on it...

https://pimax.com/product/vision-8k-x/

https://pimax.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjwoP6...xoCMBEQAvD_BwE

True but this is the 3d movie forum…which mainstream 3d movies are currently presented in 1080p via VR? I’ll wait…

[Freakyguy666]

Originally Posted by cdx47

lol. First of all the total resolution is more than enough for a great 3D image. I've watched dozens of 3D movies and for the most part they look great. Secondly I watch full resolution discs upscaled to 4K. So while the per eye resolution might be lower the total resolution is still great. Even if I didn't upscale to 4K they still look great running at full 1080p.

There's advantages and disadvantages in everything. But I get to watch films on everything from a computer monitor to IMAX sized cinema screens without needing projection equipment. How many people have IMAX sized projector screens anyway? All I need is the 3D visor and a PC or laptop and I can watch my discs anywhere. My PC is connected to my home cinema receiver so I get full Atmos/True HD DTS:x/DTS-HD sound.

The only potential concern I have is that films with weak 3D like Blade Runner 2049 might need all the resolution they can get per eye. I don't know if this is the case though because almost every MCU, Transformers, Hong Kong, Disney, modern animation and classic 1950s 3D disc I have has good to outstanding 3D. Out of my nearly 200 3D discs there's probably only a handful (like Winter Soldier) that I would say the 3d makes no difference at all.

Lol.
You’re the type of person who when asked which is worth more a one dollar bill or a quarter, responds with a quarter is round and more sturdy.

So back to the original point…and try to stick to it….I know it’s difficult for you but try….Mainstream 3D movie presentations on VR (they are streamed from digital) are LOWER RESOLUTION—PER EYE AS WELL AS COMBINED—than their Bluray 3d counterparts (which are nearly all 1080p per eye). That’s a fact.

Now if you have evidence to the contrary please provide it….I’ll wait…

[Deciazulado]

But I already watch the 3D Blu-ray discs in 1080p x 1920 per eye on both the OLED headset or the OLED TV which is the resolution they are in, at ~2PH (Picture Heights) which is about the same as watching them on this screen from the middle of the theater




(I want the Cinera to watch the 800p x 1920 3-d discs of 3-D Scope movies like this



on a headset too.)



(I sit 3/4ths nearer when watching those on the OLED TV)

[Freakyguy666]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

But I already watch the 3D Blu-ray discs in 1080p x 1920 per eye on both the OLED headset or the OLED TV which is the resolution they are in, at ~2PH (Picture Heights) which is about the same as watching them on this screen from the middle of the theater




(I want the Cinera to watch the 800p x 1920 3-d discs of 3-D Scope movies like this



on a headset too.)



(I sit 3/4ths nearer when watching those on the OLED TV)

I’m not aware of the old version of the Cinera’s capabilities….the new one should be able to check all the boxes….but keep in mind the Cinera is not truly a VR Headset. It is not intended to be interactive with hand sensors & one to one motion detection as is customary in true VR headsets….so I consider the Cinera simply a display device—not VR.

[Deciazulado]

The old one is 1440p x 2560 but LCD. And big (long). But yes I guess it's not VR-ary . It would be nice if you could move your head and the screen stay put like in a real theater, but that would need wider view optical system and more pixels (or the screen right would cut off if you looked left). It'll get there, someday. He who controls the space, controls the universe.


High frame rate and variable, with HDR would be nice too. I think all those headsets are 60p

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by Freakyguy666

Lol.
You’re the type of person who when asked which is worth more a one dollar bill or a quarter, responds with a quarter is round and more sturdy.

So back to the original point…and try to stick to it….I know it’s difficult for you but try….Mainstream 3D movie presentations on VR (they are streamed from digital) are LOWER RESOLUTION—PER EYE AS WELL AS COMBINED—than their Bluray 3d counterparts (which are nearly all 1080p per eye). That’s a fact.

Now if you have evidence to the contrary please provide it….I’ll wait…

I don't watch streamed 3D film. The films I watch in VR are 3D BLU-RAY DISCS. The response you gave was ignorant of the facts. You just made an assumption based on your very limited knowledge of 3D VR. The insults were unnecessary and as I am a new member, those insults are a particularly unhelpful introduction to this forum.

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

The old one is 1440p x 2560 but LCD. And big (long). But yes I guess it's not VR-ary . It would be nice if you could move your head and the screen stay put like in a real theater, but that would need wider view optical system and more pixels (or the screen right would cut off if you looked left). It'll get there, someday. He who controls the space, controls the universe.


High frame rate and variable, with HDR would be nice too. I think all those headsets are 60p

VR works wonderfully for 3D and blu-ray and I already run my 3D films at 60Hz. But I wonder about HDR in VR. Some films are bright enough when you are watching on a virtual IMAX screen at what is probably an unnatural distance. Yes I want HDR but wonder if it is good for the eyes?

[Freakyguy666]

Originally Posted by cdx47

I don't watch streamed 3D film. The films I watch in VR are 3D BLU-RAY DISCS. The response you gave was ignorant of the facts. You just made an assumption based on your very limited knowledge of 3D VR. The insults were unnecessary and as I am a new member, those insults are a particularly unhelpful introduction to this forum.

Your post suggested you could watch 3D by simply using VR hardware…that is false.

And that is a particularly unhelpful introduction to VR.

You are likely using a PC and essentially projecting the data to your VR hardware using REMOTE DESKTOP.

There are myriad issues with Remote Desktop that are beyond the scope of this forum but suffice it to say your assumption that my knowledge of 3D vr is limited is ignorant.

As a newbie to this forum, I’ll give you a tip: if you’d like to continue this conversation do so under the 3D hardware section.

Cheers!

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by Freakyguy666

Your post suggested you could watch 3D by simply using VR hardware…that is false.

And that is a particularly unhelpful introduction to VR.

You are likely using a PC and essentially projecting the data to your VR hardware using REMOTE DESKTOP.

There are myriad issues with Remote Desktop that are beyond the scope of this forum but suffice it to say your assumption that my knowledge of 3D vr is limited is ignorant.

As a newbie to this forum, I’ll give you a tip: if you’d like to continue this conversation do so under the 3D hardware section.

Cheers!

I already have a conversation under the hardware forum. If you had asked to continue the conversation over there I would have been glad to do so.

My initial response was in answer to a question. My follow up was in response to a very narrow view of 3D VR. Remote Desktop or not, the software runs in VR and I would not be able to watch the dozens of 3D movies that I have seen otherwise

Your restricted viewpoint about VR aside, this thread is about Dune, which incidentally I watched on an IMAX screen in VR. Apologies to others on the thread that may have read this nonsense, I will not be taking it any further. Anyone interested in 3D VR can indeed discuss it in the hardware thread.

[Freakyguy666]

Originally Posted by cdx47

I already have a conversation under the hardware forum. If you had asked to continue the conversation over there I would have been glad to do so.

My initial response was in answer to a question. My follow up was in response to a very narrow view of 3D VR. Remote Desktop or not, the software runs in VR and I would not be able to watch the dozens of 3D movies that I have seen otherwise

Your restricted viewpoint about VR aside, this thread is about Dune, which incidentally I watched on an IMAX screen in VR. Apologies to others on the thread that may have read this nonsense, I will not be taking it any further. Anyone interested in 3D VR can indeed discuss it in the hardware thread.

Bottomline: No one would be able to watch a bluray 3D disc in full 1080p resolution by simply owning the 3D bluray and a VR headset as you originally suggested. Not to mention the refresh rate would be below that of most active displays (144hz).

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by Freakyguy666

Bottomline: No one would be able to watch a bluray 3D disc in full 1080p resolution by simply owning the 3D bluray and a VR headset as you originally suggested. Not to mention the refresh rate would be below that of most active displays (144hz).

I didn't suggest anything other than it is possible to watch 3D using VR. It was a thread discussing Dune, not 3D VR so it wasn't appropriate to expand further. But when you wouldn't accept that simple point I then outlined some of the advantages. I would have also outlined the disadvantages as well but it was a thread about Dune, not 3D VR. Any other assumption was made by yourself.

As to your other point, I don't understand how the TV refresh rate is relevant when the film you are watching is fixed at 23.97Hz. I watch 3D films at 60Hz because by using software interpolation to increase the frame rate of the source material otherwise I get jitters. In your case it doesn't matter if the TV refresh rate is 60,120 or 144 times a second because the source is still 23.97Hz.