Amazon opts for HD DVD in selling indie films - Blu-ray Forum

MozartMan · 07-02-2007, 04:33 PM

Amazon opts for HD DVD in selling indie films

I was wondering that nobody posted this yet. If I am wrong, and the wrong forum, please move or merge.

Quote:

Amazon.com will begin selling high-definition independent films in the HD DVD format through its on-demand DVD printing service, the company said late Sunday.

The Seattle online retailer said it will waive processing fees for the first 1,000 films it accepts for production by its CustomFlix Labs subsidiary.

Microsoft will supply the VC1 high-def video-encoding software and the HDi program used to package the film and extra features on the disk.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm..._amazon02.html

JTK · 07-02-2007, 04:38 PM

Hmmm...I almost wonder if I should stop doing business with them because of something like this. Of course, if I do that, then that's a rather decent "Blu-Ray influence" that I'd take out of there.

WriteSimply · 07-02-2007, 04:43 PM

The hardware must've cost a fortune since there's not a lot of HD-DVD burners out there.

fuad

Josh · 07-02-2007, 04:47 PM

Insignificant until Hollywood films are done the same way.

RUR · 07-02-2007, 04:49 PM

Yikes, Amir deigned to post in the AVMS thread on this topic, outside the safety of his insiders hidey-hole.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=869376

MozartMan · 07-02-2007, 04:50 PM

Amirm posted on this subject on AVM$, and it is outside Insider thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by amirm

There is one other cool aspect of this process. One can keep updating the "master" as time goes on! In other words, a title can be revised to make it batter, add other features, etc., without any inventory risk. All you have to do is change the server image and all new orders start having the new features.

So an indpendent film maker could send over the movie by itself. And then a few months later, Amazon could add an HDi template that would have network features for that title without touching the original asset. And all indie producers would benefit in this way, giving incredible scale. Think what Bood Diamond interactivity features today, being available on all Warner discs released since inception!

As one thinks about the power of MOD system, there are a lot of places the brain can go

.

Note: highlight in bold is mine.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&#post10931212

And what the hell is MOD?

MozartMan · 07-02-2007, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUR

Yikes, Amir deigned to post in the AVMS thread on this topic, outside the safety of his insiders hidey-hole.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=869376

RUR,

You beat me in one minute.

Ender · 07-02-2007, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MozartMan

And what the hell is MOD?

Movies on Demand?

RUR · 07-02-2007, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MozartMan

RUR,

You beat me in one minute.

and to think my wife complains about my speed and efficiency....

WriteSimply · 07-02-2007, 05:01 PM

Hmmm. I've heard of double dipping, but if the master can continuously be updated, it's Nth dipping!

I've no problem with MOD though. BDs could go that route as well and cheaper with the price of hardware and software. If the BDA can move forward with the BD9, then short films can be seen in HD by everyone.

Have to wonder why Amazon went with HD-DVD. And why the announcement is not greeted with "Amazon with Toshiba goes MOD" but instead, MS. Must be because AVC is the chosen new HD codec.

fuad

MrBogey · 07-02-2007, 05:28 PM

It's good news for HD DVD... but then again considering the lack of burning software and media it seems like this is the only way you'll really see HD DVD-R media.

Someone could do almost the same thing with a couple Lite-on Blu-ray drives. They just wouldn't be able to sell them through Amazon. It's more of a boon for Indie films than it is a boon for HD DVD.

blitz6speed · 07-02-2007, 08:13 PM

If you read the AVS items about this, they are only going to be using DVD-9 Discs (which they call HD-9 LOL), and HD15 single layer discs. Why? Because they are going to be using burnable media and a laptop burner. Anyone could do this themselves. Its a sad state of affairs when HD-DVD and Microsoft are begging people to put content out on their platform and using the cheapest possible means to make it happen.

phloyd · 07-02-2007, 08:19 PM

The the 15 GB discs burning at 1x, doing real HD DVD discs would be a slow task.

Since it says 'DVD replicating' I bet they aren't even doing HD15.

Ben W has been going on and on about this in the Adobe thread on AVS. He didn't indicate any HD15 capability at this stage.

However we do see the HDNet Blu-ray BDR discs at Amazon, do don't feel too left out

The Don · 07-02-2007, 08:24 PM

BD will have a place even if MOD becomes accepted...

when you run out of HD space, where are you going to save the content knowing you will need alot of space on the disc?...

BD will come into play here for people who like to keep physical copies movies incase they have to reformat or if they just want to save it...

so even in a worst case scenario....BD will be the format for awhile...

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07-02-2007, 04:38 PM	#2
JTK Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2006 Location:www.blurayoasis.com	Hmmm...I almost wonder if I should stop doing business with them because of something like this. Of course, if I do that, then that's a rather decent "Blu-Ray influence" that I'd take out of there.

07-02-2007, 04:43 PM	#3
WriteSimply Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	The hardware must've cost a fortune since there's not a lot of HD-DVD burners out there. fuad

07-02-2007, 04:47 PM	#4
Josh Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Home Theater Gallery:50 4K collection:37 Blu-ray collection:407 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 15 Trading Score:34	Insignificant until Hollywood films are done the same way.

07-02-2007, 04:49 PM	#5
RUR Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Abiit, excessit, evasit, erupit Blu-ray collection:143 Trading Score:1	Yikes, Amir deigned to post in the AVMS thread on this topic, outside the safety of his insiders hidey-hole. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=869376

07-02-2007, 05:01 PM	#10
WriteSimply Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	Hmmm. I've heard of double dipping, but if the master can continuously be updated, it's Nth dipping! I've no problem with MOD though. BDs could go that route as well and cheaper with the price of hardware and software. If the BDA can move forward with the BD9, then short films can be seen in HD by everyone. Have to wonder why Amazon went with HD-DVD. And why the announcement is not greeted with "Amazon with Toshiba goes MOD" but instead, MS. Must be because AVC is the chosen new HD codec. fuad

07-02-2007, 05:28 PM	#11
MrBogey Expert Member Member since:Jan 2007	It's good news for HD DVD... but then again considering the lack of burning software and media it seems like this is the only way you'll really see HD DVD-R media. Someone could do almost the same thing with a couple Lite-on Blu-ray drives. They just wouldn't be able to sell them through Amazon. It's more of a boon for Indie films than it is a boon for HD DVD.

07-02-2007, 08:13 PM	#12
blitz6speed Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Anaheim Hills, CA Trading Score:8	If you read the AVS items about this, they are only going to be using DVD-9 Discs (which they call HD-9 LOL), and HD15 single layer discs. Why? Because they are going to be using burnable media and a laptop burner. Anyone could do this themselves. Its a sad state of affairs when HD-DVD and Microsoft are begging people to put content out on their platform and using the cheapest possible means to make it happen.

07-02-2007, 08:19 PM	#13
phloyd Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2003 Location:California Trading Score:5	The the 15 GB discs burning at 1x, doing real HD DVD discs would be a slow task. Since it says 'DVD replicating' I bet they aren't even doing HD15. Ben W has been going on and on about this in the Adobe thread on AVS. He didn't indicate any HD15 capability at this stage. However we do see the HDNet Blu-ray BDR discs at Amazon, do don't feel too left out

07-02-2007, 08:24 PM	#14
The Don Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Apr 2006 Blu-ray reviews:12 Trading Score:2	BD will have a place even if MOD becomes accepted... when you run out of HD space, where are you going to save the content knowing you will need alot of space on the disc?... BD will come into play here for people who like to keep physical copies movies incase they have to reformat or if they just want to save it... so even in a worst case scenario....BD will be the format for awhile...

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