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Old 06-16-2017, 10:29 AM   #101
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From what I've read on a few AV sites, OLED "burn in" isn't an issue; you'd have to purposely keep an image on screen for a long long time to see any retention or burn in, but even if you do it will fade. It's not permanent.

Best advice appears to be; just use your tv normally. Some of the tests carried out by AV sites were pretty full on - 24 hours showing the same image left some retention, but they were able to clear it up easily.

Other OLED users also commented that, even when gaming, they've never seen anything left on their screen.
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Old 06-16-2017, 02:18 PM   #102
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From what I've read on a few AV sites, OLED "burn in" isn't an issue; you'd have to purposely keep an image on screen for a long long time to see any retention or burn in, but even if you do it will fade. It's not permanent.

Best advice appears to be; just use your tv normally. Some of the tests carried out by AV sites were pretty full on - 24 hours showing the same image left some retention, but they were able to clear it up easily.

Other OLED users also commented that, even when gaming, they've never seen anything left on their screen.
Some report burn in. Every 2016 I have seen at BB has burn in from playing the demo loop. Even in the Magnolia centers where I am told they turn them off properly to allow the short 5~7 minute auto clean screen program to run daily (as opposed to shutting the power off via a master switch).

And some users also report burn in. Please read this thread... http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ole...rn-photos.html And keep in mind these tv's are not even 2 years old yet. How many defending current happy campers will be singing a different tune after 4~7 years of gaming, cable watching and computer monitor usage in their routine? Only time will tell.

For those not interested in 3D it does not matter much. Just $$$$, buy a new 2D one. But for folks with large 3D collections, folks who love the immersion/realism that 3D offers...it matters a lot. They may not be able to replace them.

Suppose you bought a car. And you were told by a god that was the only one you could/would ever have in your long life.. You might be more inclined to...keep it in your garage...change the oil often...take a bike to the local market...drive slow and very carefully. Limit it's use to important things that really mattered to you.

The 3D TV manufacturing gods have spoken.

So why gamble with your precious/soon rare 3D Oled. I keep in mind several things.

That LG will not warranty burn in (tells me they know of/aware of and expect $$$$ screen burn issues). Few/no extended warranties cover burn in. Square Trade for example does not, when I pointedly asked them for confirmation (and at some point there will be no 3D replacement panels any way).

I also keep in mind that possibly/probably (?) no more 3D tv's will be made for a long time. There may be no simple way to replace a 3D tv. And possibly...used ones in good working order might become both rare and expensive. Perhaps to pricy for a poor old boy like me.

And finally, there just simply is no need to run my Oled for everything. I/family don't need it for cable tv and such. Folks can use one of the other perfectly good TV's around here for those tasks (42" Vizio in the family room or a Insignia 32" in the living room, for example).

I want my...soon to become rare, possibly/probably irreplaceable 3D TV to perform awesome for MOVIES for many, many years to come. That is what I bought it for, movies...3D movies mostly. End of 3D TV's was the only reason I bought a new tv now...otherwise would have just waited till I just needed one.

55" 4k led tv's can be had for less than 500 bucks. Cheap. They work great for gaming, cable and use as computer monitors. No need to risk an expensive, soon rare, 3D Oled.

I simply do not want...or need to put it at risk.

Perfecting glasses free 3D tv could bring it back in a big way...but who knows when...or if that will happen in my lifetime. (I think it will)

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Old 06-16-2017, 05:41 PM   #103
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Some report burn in. Every 2016 I have seen at BB has burn in from playing the demo loop. Even in the Magnolia centers where I am told they turn them off properly to allow the short 5~7 minute auto clean screen program to run daily (as opposed to shutting the power off via a master switch).

And some users also report burn in. Please read this thread... http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ole...rn-photos.html And keep in mind these tv's are not even 2 years old yet. How many defending current happy campers will be singing a different tune after 4~7 years of gaming, cable watching and computer monitor usage in their routine? Only time will tell.

For those not interested in 3D it does not matter much. Just $$$$, buy a new 2D one. But for folks with large 3D collections, folks who love the immersion/realism that 3D offers...it matters a lot. They may not be able to replace them.

Suppose you bought a car. And you were told by a god that was the only one you could/would ever have in your long life.. You might be more inclined to...keep it in your garage...change the oil often...take a bike to the local market...drive slow and very carefully. Limit it's use to important things that really mattered to you.

The 3D TV manufacturing gods have spoken.

So why gamble with your precious/soon rare 3D Oled. I keep in mind several things.

That LG will not warranty burn in (tells me they know of/aware of and expect $$$$ screen burn issues). Few/no extended warranties cover burn in. Square Trade for example does not, when I pointedly asked them for confirmation (and at some point there will be no 3D replacement panels any way).

I also keep in mind that possibly/probably (?) no more 3D tv's will be made for a long time. There may be no simple way to replace a 3D tv. And possibly...used ones in good working order might become both rare and expensive. Perhaps to pricy for a poor old boy like me.

And finally, there just simply is no need to run my Oled for everything. I/family don't need it for cable tv and such. Folks can use one of the other perfectly good TV's around here for those tasks (42" Vizio in the family room or a Insignia 32" in the living room, for example).

I want my...soon to become rare, possibly/probably irreplaceable 3D TV to perform awesome for MOVIES for many, many years to come. That is what I bought it for, movies...3D movies mostly. End of 3D TV's was the only reason I bought a new tv now...otherwise would have just waited till I just needed one.

55" 4k led tv's can be had for less than 500 bucks. Cheap. They work great for gaming, cable and use as computer monitors. No need to risk an expensive, soon rare, 3D Oled.

I simply do not want...or need to put it at risk.

Perfecting glasses free 3D tv could bring it back in a big way...but who knows when...or if that will happen in my lifetime. (I think it will)
We really only watch tv on the weekends and, like you, we use our OLED for movies mostly.

We kept our 2006 Sony 34" widescreen CRT HD for gaming. It is excellent for that - no issues with lag and it displays SD content sharper than either the OLED or our plasma. We don't have HD cable or stream content.

(And at 200 lbs that baby ain't going nowhere, it took four of us to carry it in the house )

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Old 08-07-2017, 08:01 PM   #104
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The LG 55Oledc6v will soon be mine, can't wait.
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Old 08-08-2017, 12:46 PM   #105
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Suppose you bought a car. And you were told by a god that was the only one you could/would ever have in your long life.. You might be more inclined to...keep it in your garage...change the oil often...take a bike to the local market...drive slow and very carefully. Limit it's use to important things that really mattered to you.

The 3D TV manufacturing gods have spoken.

So why gamble with your precious/soon rare 3D Oled. I keep in mind several things.

That LG will not warranty burn in (tells me they know of/aware of and expect $$$$ screen burn issues). Few/no extended warranties cover burn in. Square Trade for example does not, when I pointedly asked them for confirmation (and at some point there will be no 3D replacement panels any way).

I also keep in mind that possibly/probably (?) no more 3D tv's will be made for a long time. There may be no simple way to replace a 3D tv. And possibly...used ones in good working order might become both rare and expensive. Perhaps to pricy for a poor old boy like me.

And finally, there just simply is no need to run my Oled for everything. I/family don't need it for cable tv and such. Folks can use one of the other perfectly good TV's around here for those tasks (42" Vizio in the family room or a Insignia 32" in the living room, for example).

I want my...soon to become rare, possibly/probably irreplaceable 3D TV to perform awesome for MOVIES for many, many years to come. That is what I bought it for, movies...3D movies mostly. End of 3D TV's was the only reason I bought a new tv now...otherwise would have just waited till I just needed one.

55" 4k led tv's can be had for less than 500 bucks. Cheap. They work great for gaming, cable and use as computer monitors. No need to risk an expensive, soon rare, 3D Oled.

I simply do not want...or need to put it at risk.

sigh. If we follow your examples to their logical conclusion, what you're saying is there is no point buying anything as eventually it will be obsolete or may break down and be irreplaceable.

So don't buy a petrol car because all cars will one day be electric. Don't but a tv for a particular feature because that feature might one day be removed.

We can only ever buy what is available at that time to do the job we want it to do. I'm now set to pick up a new tv that (for me) ticks ALL the boxes that are important to me. That includes 3D.

Sounds like all you need is a cheap and cheerful flat panel that does nothing else but show a picture. If that's the only box you want ticked, then go for it, I'm not going to tell you not to. Perhaps that's an approach you should try next time?
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Old 08-08-2017, 03:22 PM   #106
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Some report burn in. Every 2016 I have seen at BB has burn in from playing the demo loop. Even in the Magnolia centers where I am told they turn them off properly to allow the short 5~7 minute auto clean screen program to run daily (as opposed to shutting the power off via a master switch).

And some users also report burn in. Please read this thread... http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ole...rn-photos.html And keep in mind these tv's are not even 2 years old yet. How many defending current happy campers will be singing a different tune after 4~7 years of gaming, cable watching and computer monitor usage in their routine? Only time will tell.

For those not interested in 3D it does not matter much. Just $$$$, buy a new 2D one. But for folks with large 3D collections, folks who love the immersion/realism that 3D offers...it matters a lot. They may not be able to replace them.

Suppose you bought a car. And you were told by a god that was the only one you could/would ever have in your long life.. You might be more inclined to...keep it in your garage...change the oil often...take a bike to the local market...drive slow and very carefully. Limit it's use to important things that really mattered to you.

The 3D TV manufacturing gods have spoken.

So why gamble with your precious/soon rare 3D Oled. I keep in mind several things.

That LG will not warranty burn in (tells me they know of/aware of and expect $$$$ screen burn issues). Few/no extended warranties cover burn in. Square Trade for example does not, when I pointedly asked them for confirmation (and at some point there will be no 3D replacement panels any way).

I also keep in mind that possibly/probably (?) no more 3D tv's will be made for a long time. There may be no simple way to replace a 3D tv. And possibly...used ones in good working order might become both rare and expensive. Perhaps to pricy for a poor old boy like me.

And finally, there just simply is no need to run my Oled for everything. I/family don't need it for cable tv and such. Folks can use one of the other perfectly good TV's around here for those tasks (42" Vizio in the family room or a Insignia 32" in the living room, for example).

I want my...soon to become rare, possibly/probably irreplaceable 3D TV to perform awesome for MOVIES for many, many years to come. That is what I bought it for, movies...3D movies mostly. End of 3D TV's was the only reason I bought a new tv now...otherwise would have just waited till I just needed one.

55" 4k led tv's can be had for less than 500 bucks. Cheap. They work great for gaming, cable and use as computer monitors. No need to risk an expensive, soon rare, 3D Oled.

I simply do not want...or need to put it at risk.

Perfecting glasses free 3D tv could bring it back in a big way...but who knows when...or if that will happen in my lifetime. (I think it will)
It is extremely unlikely you will ever get burn in on your OLED from at home use. The tvs at Best Buy run a loop with stagnant images, what do you expect? Not a good comparison.
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Old 10-04-2017, 02:00 AM   #107
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Rtings started a long term burn-in test which includes OLEDs...and it's not looking good.

Static images are the Oled killer. CNN...any channel or game for example, that has none moving pieces of imagery. Burn in is happening faster than I would have thought.

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ole...des-oleds.html
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Old 10-04-2017, 02:30 PM   #108
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I've had 2016 LG 77" & 65" OLEDs for 9 months and any faint image retention, which I had watching the same channel 24/7 during hurricane Irma, wasn't there the next day. I love 3d and everyone marvels at the picture quality on both sets.
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