RightStuf to distribute all of Gundam in North America

[Zechs Merquise]

Bit late but I finally had some money and bought myself the UC Libraries editions of First Gundam, Gundam: The 08th MS Team, Gundam 0080 and Gundam 0083. I can confirm that Cucuruz Doan's Island is on the First Gundam set, fully subtitled in English.

They really are the superior product in every respect, except the price. I wish Bandai would do something like it for non-UC Gundam, as I was very disappointed with Rightstuf's Wing set

[theberserker22]

Originally Posted by Zechs Merquise

Bit late but I finally had some money and bought myself the UC Libraries editions of First Gundam, Gundam: The 08th MS Team, Gundam 0080 and Gundam 0083. I can confirm that Cucuruz Doan's Island is on the First Gundam set, fully subtitled in English.

They really are the superior product in every respect, except the price. I wish Bandai would do something like it for non-UC Gundam, as I was very disappointed with Rightstuf's Wing set

Re 08th team and 0080: is there a major difference between the JP release and the USA release from right stuf to justify importing? I know some of the others you listed have good reasons (0079 includes ep 15, 0083 has much better compression in the JP release as well as the original audio track, and though you didnt list it Zeta Gundam has the original OPs/EDs) but im not aware of major differences for 08th and 0080.

[Zechs Merquise]

Originally Posted by theberserker22

Re 08th team and 0080: is there a major difference between the JP release and the USA release from right stuf to justify importing? I know some of the others you listed have good reasons (0079 includes ep 15, 0083 has much better compression in the JP release as well as the original audio track

Better compression, because they're spread out over more discs (2 for 0080 over Rightstuf's 1, 3 for 08th MS over Rightstuf's 2 although the UC Libraries doesn't include Miller's Report in the 08th MS box, that's available separately). I think someone also said something about the audio for Rightstuf's 08th MS Team

Originally Posted by theberserker22

and though you didnt list it Zeta Gundam has the original OPs/EDs) but im not aware of major differences for 08th and 0080.

Didn't list it because I don't have it, so I can't confirm. But I'm thinking about getting it so I'll report back. I can confirm that Cucuruz Doan's Island is on the First Gundam set with English subtitles.

The subtitles, by the way, seem to be pretty much the same subs as the old Bandai DVDs.

[theberserker22]

Oh i have the UC libraries for Zeta and they do both include english subs and the original OPs and EDs. I was just mentioning the differences that i knew of when it came to some of the Gundam releases in JP.

[jd213]

Does 0083 still have the macroblocking glitches in ep 12? (see https://fandompost.vbulletin.net/for...box#post581365 , but looks like the screenshots are down)

[Zechs Merquise]

Originally Posted by jd213

Does 0083 still have the macroblocking glitches in ep 12? (see https://fandompost.vbulletin.net/for...box#post581365 , but looks like the screenshots are down)

If you have screenshots I can check. I haven't gotten around to watching it yet.

I'm going to tentatively say 'yes' because I don't believe they're re-scans and the error talked about is apparently an issue with the scan and not the encode or something.

[jd213]

There's one set of comparisons here: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=4895

The error being with the scan is likely just an excuse given by Bandai, as the macroblocking wasn't in the DVDs that used the same master.

[Zechs Merquise]

Originally Posted by jd213

There's one set of comparisons here: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=4895

The error being with the scan is likely just an excuse given by Bandai, as the macroblocking wasn't in the DVDs that used the same master.

Took some effort but, is this the same shot?

[theberserker22]

if you at all love 0083 then do NOT buy the Nozomi release. It suffers from an insane amount of compression artifacts and also doesnt include the original audio, only the "remastered" audio with music rearranged and sound fx changed.

It's worth importing the UC Library version, its criminal what they did to it for its USA release. V Gundam also suffers from similar nasty compression issues but since its V Gundam i couldnt care less lol

[NLScavenger]

Originally Posted by Zechs Merquise

Took some effort but, is this the same shot?

[Show spoiler]

Yes. Holy crap, they fixed it!

[Zechs Merquise]

Originally Posted by NLScavenger

Yes. Holy crap, they fixed it!

Glad I could help

Originally Posted by theberserker22

V Gundam also suffers from similar nasty compression issues but since its V Gundam i couldnt care less lol

Oi, I love V Gundam. How dare you!

I think a lot of Nozomi releases suffer from poor compression and artifacts. They're 'good enough' if you just want to see the shows (or if you care about English dubs) but I suspect their quality is the way it is A) to keep costs down and B) to prevent the dreaded 'reverse importing'.

That's why I said I would really like it if Bandai do something similar to UC Libraries for Non-UC

[NLScavenger]

Earlier Nozomi Blu-rays are susceptible to poor encoding. They've gotten a lot better over time, but they still make some mistakes here and there, most recently wrong levels and corrupted frames in the Gundam SEED replacement discs (Guessing they did some kind of improper export, which can also potentially cause banding issues).

[jd213]

Originally Posted by Zechs Merquise

Took some effort but, is this the same shot?

[Show spoiler]

Thanks, I always figured Bandai was giving a BS excuse for their shoddy mastering/encoding (not as bad as Nozomi at the time, but still)

[Zechs Merquise]

Originally Posted by jd213

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Thanks, I always figured Bandai was giving a BS excuse for their shoddy mastering/encoding (not as bad as Nozomi at the time, but still)

To be fair I understand their perspective. It would cost too much money to recall and replace the product, and for a shot that only lasts a couple of seconds and would only be spotted by the most eagle-eyed of viewers anyway.

Better to give some BS excuse and say there's nothing they can do

[jd213]

Ehh, this is one of the biggest conglomerates in Japan, that put out a flawed product in their #1 flagship franchise, that originally cost around $250 at retail, and they didn't even do a new film scan for it (it was originally done for the 2006 DVD box). The glitches were pretty noticable IMO too, and they happened in another later scene as well.

Maybe doing an exchange program for the one disc that was affected would have eaten into their profits a bit, but admitting their mistake and showing their customers some respect instead of lying to them would probably be more valuable in the long run. I certainly haven't bought much from them since this happened, at any rate.

[Zechs Merquise]

Originally Posted by jd213

Ehh, this is one of the biggest conglomerates in Japan, that put out a flawed product in their #1 flagship franchise, that originally cost around $250 at retail, and they didn't even do a new film scan for it (it was originally done for the 2006 DVD box). The glitches were pretty noticable IMO too, and they happened in another later scene as well.

Maybe doing an exchange program for the one disc that was affected would have eaten into their profits a bit, but admitting their mistake and showing their customers some respect instead of lying to them would probably be more valuable in the long run. I certainly haven't bought much from them since this happened, at any rate.

I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying that, from their perspective, it costs them nothing to say 'Oh no, that's a problem with the master. Nothing we can do about it', rather than recall the existing box from distribution, initiate a replacement program for people who bought the bad disc, go back to the production line and re-encode the disc for the replacement, etc.

It's a bad way to treat the customers but hey, Home Media market in Japan is an absolute racket. They sell these sets for massive amounts of money compared to what it costs to make them. This is why they're so fearful of reverse importing and us foreigners get inferior products as a result

[gloomranger]

https://youtu.be/1QcjvlpEeZw

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[El3mental]

Originally Posted by jd213

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Thanks, I always figured Bandai was giving a BS excuse for their shoddy mastering/encoding (not as bad as Nozomi at the time, but still)

Would it not be possible for them to go back and re-scan that one section to fix it? Since it drew "a lot" of attention I mean?

[Zechs Merquise]

Originally Posted by El3mental

Would it not be possible for them to go back and re-scan that one section to fix it? Since it drew "a lot" of attention I mean?

They could have but they didn't want to, you see

[El3mental]

Originally Posted by Zechs Merquise

They could have but they didn't want to, you see

Right. I was more making the point that they might not exactly have lied about being unable to fix whatever went wrong with the scan in that part. And reprinting the discs just for that wouldn't have been desirable for them.