Avatar: The Way of Water (2022)

[Just_Discovered_3D]

Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

That's exactly what happens. I was never a fan of drinker, but I was big into the wave of YouTubers before him. People like Mauler. Viewing media with their mindset just made me a miserable person. They're also frequently wrong about their observations.

Mauler in particular would just nitpick EVERY SINGLE thing that would happen, and "analyze" the film as it went. So you'd get complaints like "why did X character make this choice that clearly helps the bad guys" when the twist of the film would be X character was a villain. But he'd be so up his ass that he'd argue the character was poorly written because he's pausing every scene to analyze instead of waiting to see where the story goes, never getting the bigger picture.

The worst part? These idiot grifters have massive audiences. They make piles of cash off donations, patreon, etc, to sit there and *****. It's sad.

Mauler is fun, but his reviews are often longer than the films being reviewed. As I recall, his Doctor Strange 2 video was 5 hours long. So he's only watchable IMO when he's on curated livestreams as the guy is a rambler when left unchecked.

The idea isn't that people watch these "Fandom Menace" types and then start hating most modern movies, it's that people realize on their own that most modern movies aren't as good as what came before, and that brings them organically into steaming "FM"

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by TheSweetieMan

That article should not have made it out of Variety's editing department.

It wholly misinterpreted the context of Cameron's quotes from that interview.

WETA FX did the performance-capture on Thanos. He was praising their work in comparison to what ILM puts out.

It blows my mind how mind-bogglingly idiotic all forms of mainstream journalism has become. This wouldn't have even made it out of the editing department of the high school I attended.

Absolute amateur hour at Variety.

News is an entertainment product.

[Poya]

List of tv shows/movie/game franchises that began + ended during the gap between Avatar and Way of Water:

Game of Thrones
Better Call Saul
The Americans
The Walking Dead
Once Upon a Time
Arrow
Gotham
Fleabag
Veep
Schitt's Creek
The Good Place
The Legend of Korra
Adventure Time
Killing Eve
Hannibal
Bates' Motel
Sense8
Peaky Blinders
Chilling Adventures of Sabrina
Lucifer
Mr. Robot
Orphan Black
Vikings
The 100
Atlanta
Westworld
Ozark
Bosch
Brooklyn 99
New Girl
Orange is the New Black
Transformers: Prime
House of Cards
How to Get Away With Murder
The Expanse
Conan
Jay Leno's 2nd run on Tonight Show
Trevor Noah's run on The Daily Show
Full Frontal with Samantha Bee
The Nightly Show with Larry Willmore
The Opposition with Jordan Klepper
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Star Wars Sequel Trilogy
The Hobbit Trilogy
Fantastic Beasts Trilogy
MCU: The Infinity Saga
The Amazing Spider-Man Duology
Burton's Alice in Wonderland Duology
Maleficent Duology
Alien Origins Duology
Daddy's Home Duology
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Halo: The Reclaimer Trilogy

Anything else?

[John1701D]

The point?

There's lots of examples of sequels that took a decade or longer to appear. Bladerunner, Mad Max, Godfather, etc etc.

[Monterey Jack]

Originally Posted by Bubbles-11

Composer worked with Horner on the score for the first Avatar so I don't think we should be too worried

He also finished Horner's score for The Magnificent Seven, and did an excellent job aping Horner's "voice".

[The Debts]

Got my tickets secured for Saturday. Will unfortunately be in 2D but the showtime is coinvent for me and it's at a nice theater so yeet.

[Camellott89]

Welp, I'm excited.

Was just asked to attend a screening tomorrow. Followed by a Q&A with JC.

[omark]

Originally Posted by Camellott89

Welp, I'm excited.

Was just asked to attend a screening tomorrow. Followed by a Q&A with JC.

Which country?

[ThulsaMike88]

Interested to see what the reviews look like in full for this! I guess we'll find out next week, but I don't think it will change my excitement for the film at all. Only negative reaction I've seen is from The Guardian in the UK...I think they didn't care for the original either.

[Camellott89]

Originally Posted by omark

Which country?

The US, in California

[Bubbles-11]

Originally Posted by ThulsaMike88

Only negative reaction I've seen is from The Guardian in the UK...I think they didn't care for the original either.

They don't particularly care about a lot of films either if you really think about it! See for example their Encanto review and their 20th anniversary analysis of Shrek saying "it was always terrible"

[Poya]

Originally Posted by John1701D

The point?

There's lots of examples of sequels that took a decade or longer to appear. Bladerunner, Mad Max, Godfather, etc etc.

Difference is: nobody expected them to get another one. Avatar 2 was obvious from the first month of the 1st movie's release.

[Atomic Salad]

Originally Posted by Poya

Daddy's Home Duology

It's mind blowing that there have been 2 Daddy's Home movies released since 2009.

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by Poya

Difference is: nobody expected them to get another one. Avatar 2 was obvious from the first month of the 1st movie's release.

How so? Avatar to me looked like a one and done movie.

[kuzronk]

Avatar the universe was surprising silent for how much it was worked on.

[DrWally]

Originally Posted by Poya

Anything else?

Jurassic World
Planet of the Apes
Hunger Games
Divergent
Maze Runner
X-Men (First Class series)
Sicario
Frozen
Wreck-It-Ralph

Three complete Doctor Who eras.

[Boccaccio]

Really looking forward to it now. Just ordered tickets for Saturday.

IMAX 3D HFR 21,40€ per ticket

[oneway23]

Unfortunately, no IMAX 3-D in our future, as, we're just not willing to schlep into Manhattan with the chairs when it's supposed to be a bit of sleet and absolutely frigid this coming weekend, so, it'll be the local theater in Real3D (with no HFR) for us.

A bit unfortunate, but, it be what it be. Still really excited.

[Foggy]

Kinda crazy other movies have been released between Avatar 1 and 2.

[Britbuffguy]

Originally Posted by ThulsaMike88

Interested to see what the reviews look like in full for this! I guess we'll find out next week, but I don't think it will change my excitement for the film at all. Only negative reaction I've seen is from The Guardian in the UK...I think they didn't care for the original either.

That's the kind of review I trust, as the first Avatar was a pretty awful movie, boring for sure, so all the reviews this week calling the sequel the greatest thing ever I have to ignore, cause so many years ago they almost all told me the same thing about the original.