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Old 08-31-2017, 12:56 PM   #1461
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Yes, Avatar did well. Was it because it was REALLY a great film? Or was it because the special effects and 3D was top notch and everyone wanted to see the new visuals? Hard to tell.

I suspect the second one will draw lots of attention and curious crowds and it will do well.

But I think they were overly ambitious to green light 4 sequels at one time. I feel like the fad will begin to fade after the second one and by the 4th one, we will be weary and tired of it.
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Old 08-31-2017, 02:03 PM   #1462
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I'll see them because there James Cameron but I only expecting the Avatar sequels to be ok.
They next Avatar will be a huge event just like the first one, and everyone will go see it to find out what all the hype is about so it will do very well in the box office, but the first one kinda faded quickly and people don't seem to still talk about it much anymore. Unless he has something special in the story department, I think it will be the same with this next one.
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Old 08-31-2017, 03:15 PM   #1463
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No they wont, in fact I think they way underperform. He has no Dances with Wolves script to go by. Avatar 3/10 for story 8/10 for visuals at the time that has fallen to 5/10 today. Rewatched and pretty much looks like crap now.
Well, considering you are a Digital fan, it would look like shit.

On a 4K disc, it will look fantastic. The sequels will probably look stunning.
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Old 08-31-2017, 03:40 PM   #1464
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Cameron was probably helping Arnie with a favor by doing some damage control. If he honestly liked Genisys, maybe he's on prescription opioids.
He recently commented that he didn't care for any of the other Terminator sequels; he only praised them at the time of their release to support Arnold.

It's hard to take anything Cameron says as the truth anymore. He tends to speak out of both sides of his mouth. I love his movies but do not trust much of what he claims. Though he's still one of my favorite directors!

As for Brolin turning down Avatar sequels, I'm not surprised with his Marvel schedule and Deadpool 2. Four Avatar movies is alot to sign up for. Many actors have also turned down roles in Cameron's films just because of not wanting to deal w/ Cameron.

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Old 08-31-2017, 04:29 PM   #1465
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Well, considering you are a Digital fan, it would look like shit.

On a 4K disc, it will look fantastic. The sequels will probably look stunning.
Yep, they will at least be eye searing movies on 4k, that's for sure. The main worry is the story. Where does Cameron plan on taking this series? We are already regurgitating the main characters. At my last count three dead characters were returning for the second film.
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Old 08-31-2017, 05:13 PM   #1466
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They next Avatar will be a huge event just like the first one, and everyone will go see it to find out what all the hype is about so it will do very well in the box office,
but the first one kinda faded quickly and people don't seem to still talk about it much anymore. Unless he has something special in the story department, I think it will be the same with this next one.


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Old 08-31-2017, 05:16 PM   #1467
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The man said hes waiting for glass-free 3d. So that could be a game changer.
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Old 08-31-2017, 05:17 PM   #1468
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Yep, its run only officially finished in July of the following year IIRC and then they released the Special Edition in IMAX just a few weeks later.
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Old 08-31-2017, 05:46 PM   #1469
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I'm crossing my fingers and hope for the best. Still love Avatar and want to see the sequels succeed.
Me too. We enjoyed the first one and have high expectations for the next films.
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Old 08-31-2017, 06:58 PM   #1470
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I'm not talking about the box office. After it finished its run and the blu ray was released, talk about Avatar kinda subsided. It don't see it in many lists of people's favorite movies. Some movies stay fresh for decades. People seemed to move on relatively quickly. I am sure once the sequels get closer talk will pick up again, but it just seemed like a short phenomenon to me.

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Old 08-31-2017, 07:07 PM   #1471
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Yes James, but what about the decision to SHOW THE BIG TWIST IN THE TRAILER ????!!!!! Was THAT a good idea???


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The marketing for Terminator 2 also spoiled the twist of Arnold being the hero cyborg. The hallway scene at the arcade was supposed to be a big surprise for audiences.
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Old 08-31-2017, 07:12 PM   #1472
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Never bet against Cameron. Avatar 2 could be better than Aliens and Terminator 2... combined.
Alien and Terminator were also great movies to begin with.

The premise and world that was created along with the story that was presented did not captivate me. If I'm not connecting with the story on a fundamental level, there is really nothing that could be done to make the sequel something of legend beyond technical merit.

Terminator 2 is similar in the sense that it set new standards for both budget and effects, but I was also engaged with the story and characters. What does Jake Sully mean to me? Nothing.

For context I'm neither an Avatar basher or lover. It's marvelous to look at but utterly predictable. And I think being predictable is one of the worst things a movie can be. Especially if we're talking about James Cameron. With both T2 and Aliens JC suberted expectations. Aliens crossed genres and T2 turned the first movie's villain into the hero.
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Old 08-31-2017, 07:16 PM   #1473
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Never seen Avatar and many years ago I was laughed at for saying I doubt we'd ever see Avatar 2. This was when it was due for a 2015 or so release.

I expect they'll turn out just fine and make a mint but we won't see them until 2025.
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Old 08-31-2017, 08:27 PM   #1474
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They'll be absolute eye-candy in IMAX 3D, and the first sequel will have Cameron flipping off Patty Jenkins for Wonder Woman as a mid-credits scene.
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Old 08-31-2017, 08:41 PM   #1475
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They'll be absolute eye-candy in IMAX 3D, and the first sequel will have Cameron flipping off Patty Jenkins for Wonder Woman as a mid-credits scene.
Wouldn't be surprised.
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Old 09-01-2017, 12:39 PM   #1476
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Looking forward to the Avatar Sequels.If there is one director that can make a better sequel,look no further than to James Cameron,the man will deliver.
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Old 09-02-2017, 01:53 AM   #1478
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I recently re-watched Avatar and man is it just kind of okay. I don't hate it but I don't love it either. The villain is the best damn thing in it, so I'm not surprised they're forcing his return despite it making no real sense.
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Old 09-02-2017, 01:58 AM   #1479
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I recently re-watched Avatar and man is it just kind of okay. I don't hate it but I don't love it either. The villain is the best damn thing in it, so I'm not surprised they're forcing his return despite it making no real sense.
He's returning?
[Show spoiler]I'm guessing either a clone, twin brother, or just flashback scenes, but I secretly hope he'll be a Terminator in disguise and we'll have SkyNet vs Na'vi on Pandora.
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