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Old 05-12-2016, 01:45 AM   #21
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Well, 12 bit Dolby Vision grading authoring software and hardware decoder chips (for players and displays) have JUST become available for UHD Blu-ray, and Dolby Atmos consumer re-mixing and theatrical soundtrack conversion is now easier than ever, so if Disney was waiting on the technical aspects in order for their hot animation and franchise properties to look and sound the best, they could easily start this holiday.
while the wait-and-see approach from Disney is admirable; it's still better than what Fox is doing by chucking titles onto UHD without their native Atmos mixes and double dipping already [*cough* 'The Martian'].
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No new info about Marvel Studios/Disney releasing this on a 4K disc? IMAX scenes in it?
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No new info about Marvel Studios/Disney releasing this on a 4K disc? IMAX scenes in it?
No word on a UHD disc, but I doubt it. If they were going to do a simultaneous UHD release, they would have already announced it with the regular Blu-ray.

I'm thinking Disney Corp will announce UHD Blu-ray support at CES in January and dominate the show, if they ever do. They'll probably finally push Dolby Vision with Dolby Atmos audio as premium features for their animated and tent pole franchise movies. They're big on that duo for their high end cinema releases.

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Old 06-30-2016, 07:20 PM   #24
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Are Disney/Marvel Studios apart of the UHD 4K Alliance? Are they anti physical media?
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Are Disney/Marvel Studios apart of the UHD 4K Alliance? Are they anti physical media?
They are, but since Disney owns a lot of hot properties at the moment, they can sit back and see how UHD sales unfold. They are the power player in the home video market.

Since the standards are still getting ironed out for HDR and HDMI, etc. and with Sony and Oppo being the last to market with players they can also use this time to pick what features they want for their UHD discs for their big debut, if they ever decide it's the right time to announce.

They could potentially start right off the bat with BD-100 discs, 12 bit Dolby Vision, and Dolby Atmos where some studios who jumped right when Samsung stated they were going to be first to market were stuck with HDR10, BD-66's, and without the authoring tools to put immersive mixes on their discs at the very start of the UHD Blu-ray launch (ie. Fox).

Disney was hesitant about Blu-ray from the beginning 10 years ago and it's no different with UHD Blu-ray. Though, with streaming becoming more of a competitor, it creates a chill in all the home video departments towards any new physical disc media.

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Old 06-30-2016, 07:36 PM   #26
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It's not like Disney haven't embraced streaming themselves though, they're not treating the streaming market like the boogeyman (ditto for Sony). They even switched their North American 3D releases to streaming vendors only because they were getting so pissed about people splitting up the 3D combo packs and selling them. That may also play a part in their deafening silence re: UHD Blu-ray because the same shit might keep on happening with that format, thus 'stealing' more sales from Uncle Walt's frozen head.
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:39 PM   #27
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It's not like Disney haven't embraced streaming themselves though, they're not treating the streaming market like the boogeyman. They even switched their North American 3D releases to streaming vendors only because they were getting so pissed about people splitting up the 3D combo packs and selling them. That may also play a part in their deafening silence re: UHD Blu-ray, because the same shit might keep on happening.
But, it looks like they're dipping their toes back into the 3D market with Zootopia and with the news that attach rates for UHD discs is actually higher than at the start of the Blu-ray format 10 years ago...

Maybe the sleeping giant mouse might make their move... at least in January.
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:44 PM   #28
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True, true, the mouse loves that cheddar and when you've got a movie that's broken a billion at the worldwide box office then it makes sense to try and maximise all home video revenues from all angles (though that certainly didn't apply to Frozen a few years back which was famously lacking a US 3D BD release).

I still reckon they're gonna get narked all over again if their (eventual) UHD combo packs start getting split up and sold off on a regular basis, though to be fair I haven't seen a lot of that happening with UHD so far - probably because people ARE actually buying them to watch them at this stage in the format's life!
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:16 PM   #29
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They even switched their North American 3D releases to streaming vendors only because they were getting so pissed about people splitting up the 3D combo packs and selling them. That may also play a part in their deafening silence re: UHD Blu-ray because the same shit might keep on happening with that format, thus 'stealing' more sales from Uncle Walt's frozen head.
They could always...

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... sell the two formats (UHD and Blu-ray) separately.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:32 PM   #30
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No word on a UHD disc, but I doubt it. If they were going to do a simultaneous UHD release, they would have already announced it with the regular Blu-ray.
Actually, that hasn't been how any studio has debuted their UHD lineups. Fox, Lionsgate, Paramount, Shout! Factory, Sony, Universal and WB all made their first UHD title announcements independently of any Blu-ray releases, even if the releases were only weeks apart.

I still say that Captain America: Civil War 4K will be a reality between now and Spider-Man: Homecoming.

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Old 06-30-2016, 09:46 PM   #31
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They could always...

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... sell the two formats (UHD and Blu-ray) separately.
...which they tried with Oz The Great and Powerful on 3D Blu-ray, but the problem is that there's not enough room on the disc for the extras so the 3D disc was premium priced but without any supplements. People did not like this. The backlash meant that Disney couldn't see a way around the problem (sell it separately, people moan, sell it as a combo, mucho splittage on eBay), so they threw all their toys out of the pram and moved 3D to online only where they could be sure that a 3D purchase wouldn't cannibalise sales.

What's that got to do with UHD, I hear you ask? The lack of room for supplements, that's what. Studios aren't including the 2D BD for the sake of it, it's there to carry the video extras too. This may well become less of an issue as 100GB discs come online, but even now studios and labels aren't using 50GB Blu-rays if they don't have to, and the same will be true of 100GB UHDs.
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I prefer Blu-Ray 3D anyway so I personally I am not moaning the lack of Ultra HD version but Disney still is the worst studio for supporting new formats. They have regressed in many ways over the years

Video and Audio quality has improved so much over the last 15 years but extras sure haven't. Disney used to create awesome extras for their movies and now they release most of their live action catalogs entirely featureless club exclusives and big new movies get only a few short extras

Their denying 3D releases to big releases is maddening. Forcing me to import Big Hero 6 and Frozen and likely The Jungle Book will be another import for me from our friends in the UK

They have released nothing with object based sound even when plenty of disc space is there to include it

And now they are the only major studio that has nothing announced in Ultra HD Blu-Ray. What happened to you Disney you used to be cool
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Old 06-30-2016, 10:33 PM   #33
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Sure, that's the ironic thing about it: most of the extras nowadays are pish, and not just from Disney. But the same sort of outcry with Oz happened when Universal released Jurassic World as a barebones 3D disc in the UK, a lot of folks in the UK forums were pissed. Universal ended up sending the complainers a sealed retail copy of the 2D disc and another movie too, Despicable Me 2 if memory serves.

But Disney don't have to be cool when they've got three or four billion-dollar movie stables under one roof, they can be douchebags about the home video side of things and yet the money will still be delivered by the canyon-load.
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Old 07-01-2016, 12:05 AM   #34
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Just wondering with the rumors of Finding Dory possibly being Disney's first foray into UHD Blu-ray, if anyone thinks or had heard any rumors whether there's a chance maybe Disney also puts out Captain America: Civil War this Fall on UHD Blu-ray. I know the Captain America announcement on home video has already occurred with no mention of UHD Blu, but maybe if/when they jump into UHD they say "BTW, Captain America Civil War will also be one of the first titles along with Finding Dory." And maybe it's slightly behind the regular release, which would not be unprecedented thus far on UHD Blu-Ray.
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Just wondering with the rumors of Finding Dory possibly being Disney's first foray into UHD Blu-ray, if anyone thinks or had heard any rumors whether there's a chance maybe Disney also puts out Captain America: Civil War this Fall on UHD Blu-ray. I know the Captain America announcement on home video has already occurred with no mention of UHD Blu, but maybe if/when they jump into UHD they say "BTW, Captain America Civil War will also be one of the first titles along with Finding Dory." And maybe it's slightly behind the regular release, which would not be unprecedented thus far on UHD Blu-Ray.
That was confirmed fake tho. The PowerPoint was a school project.
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That was confirmed fake tho. The PowerPoint was a school project.



Actually...Bill Hunt said he had multiple other sources saying dory 4k too, and he didn't even know about the power slide website.
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Yeah pretty much reaching here lol. I respect the wishful thinking though!
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Actually...Bill Hunt said he had multiple other sources saying dory 4k too, and he didn't even know about the power slide website.
Well color me embarrassed. That is one hell of a coincidence then. I hope it true though. Held off buying Force Awakens and Civil War until we get Disney on board UHD.
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Finding Dory? That's all fine and dandy, but The Force Awakens should have been 4K UHD.
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