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Old 08-25-2016, 01:36 AM   #21
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So, I see this popped up on the 'upcoming' page. Did anyone confirm a UHD disc release? Again, everything official I have seen only points to a 4K theatrical release and a blu-ray. No mention of 4K UHD disc or 4K streaming.

Did I miss something?

Did you click the links in post 1?
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Old 08-25-2016, 02:17 AM   #22
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Oh please god let this be true. Goodfellas and Heat same year!!!
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Old 08-25-2016, 02:19 AM   #23
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Did you click the links in post 1?
Yes, neither one mentioned a 4K UHD disc or 4K streaming. Would you mind sharing/quoting a source where it is indicated?

I'm not trying to be a dick, I am honestly curious to the status because this is one of my favorite dramas. (and I didn't want another Kubo thread! )

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Old 08-25-2016, 04:01 AM   #24
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Yes, neither one mentioned a 4K UHD disc or 4K streaming. Would you mind sharing/quoting a source where it is indicated?

I'm not trying to be a dick, I am honestly curious to the status because this is one of my favorite dramas. (and I didn't want another Kubo thread! )


The 1st twitter link says 4k blu ray directly from the source
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Old 08-25-2016, 04:41 AM   #25
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OK, but I have seen countless threads where the term '4K blu-ray' and a 'mastered in 4K blu-ray' have been mixed up.

I do hope it is a UHD disc though. I was just doing my due diligence before popping it on my site.

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Old 08-25-2016, 04:52 AM   #26
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OK, but I have seen countless threads where the term '4K blu-ray' and a 'mastered in 4K blu-ray' have been mixed up.

I do hope it is a UHD disc though. I was just doing my due diligence before popping it on my site.


If he says 4k blu ray, i sure as hell hope he means disc or he's going to have some angry online forums people's!

But since he did say fall so I would expect some type of preorder option to pop up in the next couple weeks.
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I would definitely be down for a UHD Blu-ray of Heat as long as they don't F it up.
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Old 08-25-2016, 06:46 AM   #28
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This would look great in HDR: =)
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Old 08-25-2016, 10:49 AM   #29
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OK, but I have seen countless threads where the term '4K blu-ray' and a 'mastered in 4K blu-ray' have been mixed up.
yep...I've seen countless time people referring to regular 4K remasters as a 4K blu-rays.
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ooh yeah, this will be mine. I've always thought the current BD is perfectly fine but I'm more than happy to upgrade for this title.
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ooh yeah, this will be mine. I've always thought the current BD is perfectly fine but I'm more than happy to upgrade for this title.
The audio is a different story, however. The levels between the dialog and the sound effects are completely out of wack.

If this is getting a UHD release, they better go back and fix the soundtrack.
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The audio is a different story, however. The levels between the dialog and the sound effects are completely out of wack.

If this is getting a UHD release, they better go back and fix the soundtrack.
It's been a couple years since I have seen the Blu, but I know Michael Mann is known for his naturally aggressive sound mixes. He and the sound guys actually record REAL gunfire from the set locations to ensure the echo and ferocity of the shots are accurate. This is jarring to many people as they don't realize just how loud guns really are.

That being said, maybe the sound is F'd up on the Blu, that gives me an excuse to rewatch it this weekend.
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^ yeah, this. Most, if not all, of his mixed keep dialogue low and sound effects high so the latter have more impact.
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^ yeah, this. Most, if not all, of his mixed keep dialogue low and sound effects high so the latter have more impact.
There was a foreign region Blu-ray release of Heat that had a different 5.1 track. The dialog wasn't set at a lower than reference point and the sound effects were still considered really punchy at key moments - a much better balance.

I have a hunch there is a mastering error in the U.S. Warner Brothers Blu-ray or they used the theatrical mix rather than a near-field remix.
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I have no doubt whatsover that any UHD disc will be joined by a remastered (please don't call them "4K Blu-rays", people) Blu-ray. I'll get the regular Blu to start off with.
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I have no doubt whatsover that any UHD disc will be joined by a remastered (please don't call them "4K Blu-rays", people) Blu-ray. I'll get the regular Blu to start off with.
If the UHD comes with both a 4K disc and remastered BD, why not just buy that? If the 4K disc ain't up to snuff you can always sell it and keep the BD.
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If the UHD comes with both a 4K disc and remastered BD, why not just buy that? If the 4K disc ain't up to snuff you can always sell it and keep the BD.
I don't often like to split packages in case I sell them on in the future. And given how low the pricing has been for some of Fox's recent catalogue remasters (ID4) there's enough of a differential there to make buying the regular BD a sizeable saving. Some context to that comment: I don't base my UHD buying on how cheap the Blu is, this is about me wanting to avoid HDR regrades on catalogue titles until I get an HDR TV. Until then I'm VERY happy with just the regular BD.
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The audio is a different story, however. The levels between the dialog and the sound effects are completely out of wack.

If this is getting a UHD release, they better go back and fix the soundtrack.
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It's been a couple years since I have seen the Blu, but I know Michael Mann is known for his naturally aggressive sound mixes. He and the sound guys actually record REAL gunfire from the set locations to ensure the echo and ferocity of the shots are accurate. This is jarring to many people as they don't realize just how loud guns really are.

That being said, maybe the sound is F'd up on the Blu, that gives me an excuse to rewatch it this weekend.

The final shootout in Miami Vice is the same way, gunshots are very loud in the mix. I too remember thinking the sound was encoded wrong on other versions of Heat but than remember reading that is the way Michael Mann wanted the mix.
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There was a foreign region Blu-ray release of Heat that had a different 5.1 track. The dialog wasn't set at a lower than reference point and the sound effects were still considered really punchy at key moments - a much better balance.

I have a hunch there is a mastering error in the U.S. Warner Brothers Blu-ray or they used the theatrical mix rather than a near-field remix.
You're talking about the Japanese one? Either way, the US mix works for me and is consistent with what Mann has done on other films of his (though mainly the more recent ones).
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Christopher Nolan Talks Michael Mann’s ‘Heat’ with Cast and Crew at the Academy

Al Pacino finally admitted it: Vincent Hanna, the dedicated Los Angeles police detective he plays in Michael Mann’s 1995 crime saga “Heat,” is strung out on cocaine throughout the film.

“I don’t think I’ve ever said it out loud,” Pacino revealed at a special screening of a 4K DCP of the film at the Academy’s Samuel Goldwyn Theater Wednesday night. “But I’ve always wanted to say it, just so you know where some of the behavior comes from.”


Complete Article at Variety.com

They said 4K DCP in the article. Fingers crossed we get some sort of 4K UHD Edition.
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