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Old 02-12-2019, 11:13 AM   #21
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I was restricting my lil' list to DI-finished movies but yes, the IMAX stuff in TDK was done up to 8K. Dunkirk's VFX was 6K. Anyone clock the one common denominator, DI or no DI, to all the mentioned movies?
NOLAAAAAAANNNNN

A lot of his effects are just removing wires, or subtly enhancing what’s already there because so much of the things he shoots is practical and because Nolan is Nolan, they can easily do 4K VFX. If the planes in Dunkirk were digital then it would be much more difficult and expensive, but no, they strapped a real camera to a real vintage plane and went with that.
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Old 02-12-2019, 12:34 PM   #22
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4K VFX is rare for movies but not unheard of. Tomorrowland had 4K VFX. Sully had 4K VFX. Even something like American Hustle had 4K VFX.
I really wish the would release that on 4K UHD! That movie was beautifully shot!!
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Old 02-12-2019, 07:04 PM   #23
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I really wish the would release that on 4K UHD! That movie was beautifully shot!!
Knowing Disney I don't see them touching that one again, which is a shame as it is a beautiful movie. Luckily it has a GREAT Blu-ray, so it's not a huge loss.
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Old 02-12-2019, 10:11 PM   #24
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NOLAAAAAAANNNNN

A lot of his effects are just removing wires, or subtly enhancing what’s already there because so much of the things he shoots is practical and because Nolan is Nolan, they can easily do 4K VFX. If the planes in Dunkirk were digital then it would be much more difficult and expensive, but no, they strapped a real camera to a real vintage plane and went with that.
I meant Sully, American Hustle and Tomorrowland as well, not just Nolan's films you silly billy. What links them? No 3D...

But you're absolutely right that Nolan's movies aren't filled with wall-to-wall digital effects to begin with but again, this is WHY he can do >4K VFX within the same sort of post-production timescale that any other similarly budgeted flick with 2000+ VFX shots would struggle with. "Removing wires" is a vast oversimplification though, they had to remove the entire rig supporting The Bat from the ground in Dark Knight Rises, or the human performers who were puppeteering TARS and CASE throughout Interstellar, as well as creating all-digital versions for certain action shots. Then there's all the wormhole/giant wave stuff in that flick too.

For Dunkirk they did various bits to add ships out at sea, smoke over the horizon and stuff like that, along with adding digital landing gear underneath Farrier's Spitfire as he's furiously cranking it into place just a split second before he lands, the gear being inched down is all digital (until it "locks" into place) as it was too dangerous to try and time it for a real landing. The sinking of the hospital ship looks incredible, they actually rigged two cameras, one locked off and one moving down past the ship, and used the motion of the moving one to simulate the effect of it sinking in the final composite. But even the wire removal on that show was an absolute pain for things like the soldiers being flung about in explosions, it being done at 6K rez meant that the particles of sand were so fine and so numerous that just isolating the wires themselves from all that schmutz was very time consuming.
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Old 02-12-2019, 10:13 PM   #25
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I thought this was gonna be another "don't buy 2K DIs" thread but nah, this might be even dumber.
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I was restricting my lil' list to DI-finished movies but yes, the IMAX stuff in TDK was done up to 8K. Dunkirk's VFX was 6K. Anyone clock the one common denominator, DI or no DI, to all the mentioned movies?
That must have been awfully slow and expensive.
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Those of us with good gear and eyes that work, who jumped into blu-ray 4K/HDR on release, can easily tell you 2K DI vs 4K DI is DUMB. Both can look great, and both can look terrible...
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Old 02-14-2019, 03:29 AM   #28
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Those of us with good gear and eyes that work, who jumped into blu-ray 4K/HDR on release, can easily tell you 2K DI vs 4K DI is DUMB. Both can look great, and both can look terrible...
Absolutely. I watched Venom today (I received the Zoom steelbook yesterday) which is a 2K DI upscaled to 4K and for me it looks great.
I don't keep track of 4K native UHD BD's and 2K upscales, I just trust my eyes to decide if I like what I'm seeing or not.
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