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Old 10-10-2018, 03:55 PM   #21
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Just noticed that HMV have this to preorder for £19.99. My only concern is that this is still a bit steep for a single Blu-ray (BD50), especially as it appears to be 1080i and NOT 1080p! I can only assume that BBC Worldwide has priced this as a "boutique" edition because it won't sell in numbers and the cost of the restoration has been high?
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Well it's 17.09 with the Zoom code...
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Old 10-10-2018, 04:52 PM   #23
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Just noticed that HMV have this to preorder for £19.99. My only concern is that this is still a bit steep for a single Blu-ray (BD50), especially as it appears to be 1080i and NOT 1080p! I can only assume that BBC Worldwide has priced this as a "boutique" edition because it won't sell in numbers and the cost of the restoration has been high?
1080i is what you want for this release, it's the only way to presented the episodes interlaced as they were originally shot.

1080p would slow down the picture to 24fps and present it in progressive.
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Old 10-10-2018, 07:22 PM   #24
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1080i is what you want for this release, it's the only way to presented the episodes interlaced as they were originally shot.

1080p would slow down the picture to 24fps and present it in progressive.
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Old 10-11-2018, 01:07 PM   #25
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I noticed that a couple of nights ago, itís not in HD though. I was surprised to see that theyíve got a lot more archive stuff available than ever before, including ĎThe War Gameí BFI HD restoration print, but down to SD. thereíre also three 90 minute plays/mini series called Theatre 625 with Judi Dench from 1966, available for 9 months. Iím definitely going to make time for that, picture looks great for 1966, looks like they still have the masters or else itís had a clean-up.


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I find it especially steep considering I'm working my way through what appears to be the same transfer on the BBC iPlayer (currently showing as available for another 9 months).
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Well it's 17.09 with the Zoom code...
Thanks for that. Is that the 10% Off sign-up code? Can it be used if youíve ordered before? I ordered a pile of stuff from them last week, but the pop-up disappeared and then they didnít give me the discount.

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I noticed that a couple of nights ago, itís not in HD though. I was surprised to see that theyíve got a lot more archive stuff available than ever before, including ĎThe War Gameí BFI HD restoration print, but down to SD. thereíre also three 90 minute plays/mini series called Theatre 625 with Judi Dench from 1966, available for 9 months. Iím definitely going to make time for that, picture looks great for 1966, looks like they still have the masters or else itís had a clean-up.






Thanks for that. Is that the 10% Off sign-up code? Can it be used if youíve ordered before? I ordered a pile of stuff from them last week, but the pop-up disappeared and then they didnít give me the discount.
Yes, you can use the code every time except when you're already using a discount. So your order last week must have been a 2 for 25 or a 3 for 10 or something.
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Old 10-12-2018, 01:21 PM   #27
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1080i is what you want for this release, it's the only way to presented the episodes interlaced as they were originally shot.

1080p would slow down the picture to 24fps and present it in progressive.
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Old 10-18-2018, 04:57 AM   #28
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I'd love to have this. I'm assuming it's REGION-B locked, but I don't see anywhere where that is clarified. I'm sure I'm missing something, but is there the slightest chance that this could be REGION FREE? It does, however, contain English SDH. Love the cover, by the way...

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Old 10-18-2018, 04:54 PM   #29
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I was wondering the same thing.
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Old 10-18-2018, 06:41 PM   #30
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I'd love to have this. I'm assuming it's REGION-B locked, but I don't see anywhere where that is clarified. I'm sure I'm missing something, but is there the slightest chance that this could be REGION FREE? It does, however, contain English SDH. Love the cover, by the way...

It doesn't seem to have a region B logo on the back (at least I didn't notice one), so it may well be region free.
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Old 10-18-2018, 09:47 PM   #31
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I'd love to have this. I'm assuming it's REGION-B locked, but I don't see anywhere where that is clarified. I'm sure I'm missing something, but is there the slightest chance that this could be REGION FREE? It does, however, contain English SDH. Love the cover, by the way...

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I don't think it's region locked, but it's encoded in 1080i and will be 25 frames per second. Just check if your player can handle the British TV system frame rate.
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I don't think it's region locked, but it's encoded in 1080i and will be 25 frames per second. Just check if your player can handle the British TV system frame rate.
Well, I think that rules out a US PS3. Oh well, more reason why I need to get a region free player.
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Just arrived from Zoom comes in a slipbox.
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Old 11-09-2018, 02:50 PM   #34
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Confirmed 50i.

35mm material looks stunning. Upscaled 405-line studio material still looks like a sows ear as expected.

Slipcase and booklet.
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I find it especially steep considering I'm working my way through what appears to be the same transfer on the BBC iPlayer (currently showing as available for another 9 months).
The transfer on iPlayer is the 2005 DVD remaster. It's definitely not the new blu-ray version.
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There's no sign of this being a limited edition is there? Wary after the Doctor Who Blu-ray nonsense.
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Confirmed 50i.

35mm material looks stunning. Upscaled 405-line studio material still looks like a sows ear as expected.

Slipcase and booklet.
I'm not an expert on the history of Quatermass and the Pit and I did read the enclosed booklet but I am confused about why so little is in 35mm. I don't quite get it because if you rip out all the low res stuff I can't see how it could possibly make any sense.

I am only up to the end of episode 2 and the 35mm scenes were very few. The booklet restoration notes seem to imply the 35mm was the omnibus shorter edit, but with the scenes I have seen so far they just wouldn't make sense on their own. So does the mentioned 35mm edit not exist is in full? For example, there is no 35mm introduction to the Quatermass character. Is it just a case of this is the only surviving 35mm footage they had?

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The 35 was just second unit- location and effects, right?
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I don't claim to be an expert on the history of Quatermass and the Pit and I did read the enclosed booklet but I am confused about why so little is in 35mm. I don't quite get it because if you rip out all the low res stuff I can't see how it could possibly make any sense.

I am only up to the end of episode 2 and the 35mm scenes were very few. The booklet restoration notes seem to imply the 35mm was part of a omnibus shorter edit, but with the scenes I have seen so far they just wouldn't make sense on their own. So does a full 35mm edit not exist? For example, there is no 35mm introduction to the Quatermass character. Is it just a case of this is the only surviving 35mm footage available?
No full 35mm version has ever existed. In fact considering pre-1980's BBC archiving policies we're kind of lucky to have what we have.

35mm footage shot as inserts for the live studio broadcasts. The live programs were then recorded as they were being broadcast onto 16mm film using the kinescope process (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinescope)

Edit: Apparently this was kinescoped (don't like the term telerecorded) in 35mm. Thanks for the info oddbox83.

All 5 episodes survive as these 16mm recordings, however as they were taken direct from a TV screen the picture resolution is nowhere near good enough to upgrade to true HD. However by some fluke all the 35mm footage survived and has been inserted into the program in HD.

The omnibus edit is probably the 1980's VHS edition (did BBC Enterprises ever export Quatermass to foreign broadcasters?) which works quite well but obviously I'd rather have the show as broadcast.

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Telerecorded to 35mm in this case, not 16mm.

The true 35mm stuff survived because Cartier edited it back into the telerecordings for the omnibus repeat to improve quality. The choices made for where the cuts fall between film and telerecording aren't a modern invention with this release, but one Cartier himself considered in 1959!

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This became standard BBC policy for decades, but no. It's studio filming at Ealing, effects work and stock footage. Location shots are minimal. The stuff too ambitious to do live was generally made on film, and it was also to facilitate the logistical production issues a live drama would bring by giving some live action to patch over such things seamlessly.

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