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Old 07-11-2022, 05:14 AM   #61
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I'm on the market for a new TV.

I can't do 1500 bucks....

It seems to me that Sony and LG are only good for top of the line level. The ratings of their 600-900 dollar Tv's don't look good.

Thinking of going with the Hisense 65 inch U7 or U8.

Right now I have a TCL 55 inch S405.

I looked at the Sony's 600-900 TV's and eh... Don't understand why they don't offer better than what they're offering at that price point.

Not seriously exploring Samsung since they don't do Dolby vision.
Sony's X90J is available at the 50-inch size for $900. If you want LG you can get a 48-inch C1 for the same price.
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Old 07-11-2022, 06:30 AM   #62
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Sony's X90J is available at the 50-inch size for $900. If you want LG you can get a 48-inch C1 for the same price.
The Hisense 65 u7g seems to perform fairly similar to the Sony, is bigger than the 50 inch Sony... And will be 698 on prime day. So 200 bucks cheaper.

Hisense: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/hisense/u7g

Sony: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x90j

LG: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c1-oled

The LG seems fairly better, but I'm not willing to downgrade in size and at a cost of 200 bucks more.
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Old 07-11-2022, 09:01 AM   #63
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The Hisense 65 u7g seems to perform fairly similar to the Sony, is bigger than the 50 inch Sony... And will be 698 on prime day. So 200 bucks cheaper.

Hisense: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/hisense/u7g

Sony: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x90j

LG: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c1-oled

The LG seems fairly better, but I'm not willing to downgrade in size and at a cost of 200 bucks more.
The Chinese brands seem to be hit or miss with quality control. When you get a good set it's nice but I've seen a lot of complaints about sets having problems or breaking down. Of course that happens with established brands too but not at the same rate. Hope you're happy with whatever set you decide to get. If you can splurge a bit more for the OLED I'd highly recommend it.
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Old 07-11-2022, 02:59 PM   #64
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The Chinese brands seem to be hit or miss with quality control. When you get a good set it's nice but I've seen a lot of complaints about sets having problems or breaking down. Of course that happens with established brands too but not at the same rate. Hope you're happy with whatever set you decide to get. If you can splurge a bit more for the OLED I'd highly recommend it.
A Warranty are a must. I don't buy new Tv's without them.

I'm sure I will make it to an OLED at some point.
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Finally got eyes on this last night. Was able to compare the 85” and 65” both at dead on angles with the exact same source content (No Way Home) thanks to the way they were set up and the 85” was clearly superior in both color vibrancy and blooming control. Without even having to pause the content it was readily apparent.

On the 85” I got basically right up to the screen and moved off center all the way to the edge of the screen and thought it still looked really good to me with impressively little blooming in the black background around the white logo on screen. For comparison I did the same thing with the 75” X90K right next to it (also same content) and when I got only about halfway to the edge of the screen the entire black background of the screen (paused on a title card shot with the movie logo center screen) turned grey.

I still haven’t been able to see an 85” QN90B in person but comparing the Sony to the 65” and 75” models I’ve seen I think I’d give the slight edge to the Sony, but I haven’t seen anything but typical tv display selling content on the Samsung.

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I'm on the market for a new TV.

I can't do 1500 bucks....

It seems to me that Sony and LG are only good for top of the line level. The ratings of their 600-900 dollar Tv's don't look good.

Thinking of going with the Hisense 65 inch U7 or U8.

Right now I have a TCL 55 inch S405.

I looked at the Sony's 600-900 TV's and eh... Don't understand why they don't offer better than what they're offering at that price point.

Not seriously exploring Samsung since they don't do Dolby vision.
Maybe try Hisense U8G 65" for around $950.

If its DSE or motion doesn't work out, then maybe consider Sony X90J 65" $1200 (X90K $1300) or Sony X95J 65" ($1300).

One thing to consider is longevity. I'd think Sony has a better shot at that.

Good luck.
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Old 07-16-2022, 09:09 PM   #67
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Maybe try Hisense U8G 65" for around $950.

If its DSE or motion doesn't work out, then maybe consider Sony X90J 65" $1200 (X90K $1300) or Sony X95J 65" ($1300).

One thing to consider is longevity. I'd think Sony has a better shot at that.

Good luck.
That's just what I got. The U8g. It was 799 on prime day... After taxes and a 4 year warranty it ended up at 950 bucks. I feel good about what I got when taking in the price point, TV quality, reviews and everything else.
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Old 07-18-2022, 01:32 AM   #68
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Finally got eyes on this last night. Was able to compare the 85 and 65 both at dead on angles with the exact same source content (No Way Home) thanks to the way they were set up and the 85 was clearly superior in both color vibrancy and blooming control. Without even having to pause the content it was readily apparent.

On the 85 I got basically right up to the screen and moved off center all the way to the edge of the screen and thought it still looked really good to me with impressively little blooming in the black background around the white logo on screen. For comparison I did the same thing with the 75 X90K right next to it (also same content) and when I got only about halfway to the edge of the screen the entire black background of the screen (paused on a title card shot with the movie logo center screen) turned grey.

I still havent been able to see an 85 QN90B in person but comparing the Sony to the 65 and 75 models Ive seen I think Id give the slight edge to the Sony, but I havent seen anything but typical tv display selling content on the Samsung.

Makes sense.

Larger the display = more dimming zones.

Though Samsung seems to have better local dimming control than Sony on smaller sizes.
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Old 07-18-2022, 02:42 PM   #69
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Makes sense.

Larger the display = more dimming zones.

Though Samsung seems to have better local dimming control than Sony on smaller sizes.
The relative dimming zone count to screen size is essentially the same. I think its more a case of the larger size uses a different panel type/manufacturer apparently and also a matter of larger screens having a much lower pixel count per dimming zone making it easier to dim around.
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Old 07-19-2022, 02:09 AM   #70
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The relative dimming zone count to screen size is essentially the same. I think its more a case of the larger size uses a different panel type/manufacturer apparently and also a matter of larger screens having a much lower pixel count per dimming zone making it easier to dim around.
Sure screen space is accounted for but the more dimming zones the better.
When you compare a 65 to a 85 you are talking a difference in over 200 zones.
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Sure screen space is accounted for but the more dimming zones the better.
When you compare a 65 to a 85 you are talking a difference in over 200 zones.
336 more to be exact according to Rtings
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Old 07-19-2022, 08:30 AM   #72
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336 more to be exact according to Rtings
Its probably why the X95K gets hyped because most people who post impression videos on the Net are using the 85er.

I see the 65 got a slight sale. From $3700 to $3300 in Canada.

For context my LG C1 OLED I got on sale was just above $3000.

I have cash put aside already to replace the C1. Despite OLEDs superior contrast & viewing angles, I actually liked HDR10 & Dolby Vision more on the 2020 Sony TV I got rid of.

If LCDs ever got ridiculously good viewing angles, Id immediately throw OLED in the trash.
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Price has dropped in Canada again.

65 Now $2,999 from $3,700..

Im guessing these LCD Sony flagships will probably go as low as $2500-$2700 in 65 come Boxing Day.
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If one doesn't care for this TV's price, X-Anti Reflection, X-Wide Angle, lower contrast, maybe consider X90K. I see in Canada the X90K 75" is $800 cheaper than the 65" X95K.

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Price has dropped in Canada again.

65” Now $2,999 from $3,700..

I’m guessing these LCD Sony flagships will probably go as low as $2500-$2700 in 65” come Boxing Day.
The 85” finally went on sale here for $1,000 off ($4,500). The QN90B has dropped to $3,600 from a $500 lower starting MSRP.

I’m thinking the QN90B will get to $3,000-3,200 for Black Friday based on last year’s sales. I’d say safe bet the X95K hits $4,000 but I’m really hoping for $3,500….

In the weeks since finally seeing the 85” in person I’ve decided this is my tv if it hits that price point. Anything above that will put me right back to being indecisive though. It’s been a wild ride
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The 85 finally went on sale here for $1,000 off ($4,500). The QN90B has dropped to $3,600 from a $500 lower starting MSRP.

Im thinking the QN90B will get to $3,000-3,200 for Black Friday based on last years sales. Id say safe bet the X95K hits $4,000 but Im really hoping for $3,500.

In the weeks since finally seeing the 85 in person Ive decided this is my tv if it hits that price point. Anything above that will put me right back to being indecisive though. Its been a wild ride
65 is as high as I can go. I dont see my C1 dying anytime soon but I will continue to monitor 2023, 2024 & 2025 Sony Mini-LED TV releases.

I absolutely can not live without Dolby Vision. I have watched since 2020 a crap ton of great shows on Netflix & *cough* not so many great shows *cough* on Disney +

Dolby Dark Mode On Sony TVs is pure eye candy. Color accuracy is amazing outta box. Even a tad bit better than my C1.

Anywhoo.. hurry up MLED!
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65 is as high as I can go. I dont see my C1 dying anytime soon but I will continue to monitor 2023, 2024 & 2025 Sony Mini-LED TV releases.

I absolutely can not live without Dolby Vision. I have watched since 2020 a crap ton of great shows on Netflix & *cough* not so many great shows *cough* on Disney +

Dolby Dark Mode On Sony TVs is pure eye candy. Color accuracy is amazing outta box. Even a tad bit better than my C1.

Anywhoo.. hurry up MLED!
I was in the 65 is perfect for me boat where I was living but when I needed to get a new place I factored in wanting a 75 or 85 from the beginning as future planning because why not . I will have a 16 foot wall where it will go so I even have room for that magical 120 some day way down the line

Im wanting to get at minimum 5-7 years out of whatever I do buy. I kept my 50 1080p tv for 6 years.
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Here is what I think after owning both LED/OLED.

Pick whatever negative youre ok with.

Go LED for Bloom.
Go OLED for loss of Shadow Detail.
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Saw the X95K 75 at a store finally.

The image was pure garbage but only because they had sports running on it in touch mode, 0 calibration & huge compression in the signal.

I liked the build quality. Legs were in narrow position & also it appears the screen rests lower to the stand compared to the X90 lineup. Forgot to look at off axis viewing to see viewing angles.

There were 2 85 TVs next to it. Geez those are ridiculously big as Im used to 65
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