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The Sonos system has a feature called Truplay which calibrates the sound to your room. The difference is night and day. You can easily switch between the 2 to hear the difference. Some people complain about the sub because they base it off the size. The sub has quite the massive sound that it shakes my room if I turn it up. It's capable of going to +15 but I keep it at 0 because it's too much. You can setup 2 subs but I'm not sure why you will need to with how one sounds. The system is quite pricey at 2,000.00. However, I bought each part in piece meal and turned out to be completely worth it. I have my vinyl system hooked up to it and it sounds immersive. Last edited by dunnbluray; 01-15-2022 at 07:22 PM. |
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i think zvox soundbars are great and afforable
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Once you get to that higher price range it's hard for a soundbar to match an AVR-based system for sound quality. Everything about a soundbar is geared toward ease of setup, convenience, and low profile/streamlined presentation. The laws of physics are just against the soundbar. That said, soundbars obviously fulfill a place in the market since not everyone's priorities are the same. I would think soundbars are most popular in the under $500 range since getting a capable AVR system with at least three speakers is more difficult at that price range. Over a $1000 an equally priced AVR system should beat a sound bar in sound quality, but for some form factor is more important. |
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How would y’all rate this Vizio?
Looks like it has surround sound, which is nice. …isn’t that what those two little boxes are for? https://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-5...?skuId=6416784 Last edited by Ray Jackson; 01-17-2022 at 03:05 AM. |
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I just spent $400 on a pair of Jordan 1s on eBay.
I could give handjobs to old men under the Ferry St Bridge every night for the next two weeks and still not be able to afford a good sound bar. …I’m not a very smart man. |
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I remember buying a pair of Air Jordan 2's red/white high tops back in 1985. A roommate worked at a golf shop and was able to order them for me. I believe they were around $50 new at the time. I only wore them in the gym. After about 15 years the foam layer started to decompose and they finally fell apart. Best basketball shoes I ever had.
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I had friends come over and would tell me it wouldn't compare but are amazed once they hear it in person. I think the stigma of the word soundbar just makes it sound inferior but in reality it's just not the case. Of course there are AVR systems which will sound better but not at the price I'm willing to pay. |
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I already referenced one earlier that I'm positive can beat it sound wise for less. Now it won't be as low profile or as easy to setup, but that is where the additional cost goes into the soundbar. While the traditional AVR setup may sacrifice simplicity and space for better sound, the soundbar approach sacrifices sound for simplicity and space. This has nothing to do with stigma, but as I said physics. The size of the cones and cabinet area to create bass just aren't there in a soundbar. The subwoofer is more of what they call a bass module then true subwoofer (Bose made this famous) since it has to make up for deficiencies within the bar. The surround within the bar is based on processing to simulate the depth and distance between true separate speakers. The built in calibration is also standard in most AVR setup's. At $500 or less I would recommend a soundbar as well. Over a $1000 I believe one can always do better with a traditional approach sound wise. I'm glad you are happy with your soundbar. At around $2000 it should sound good, but a portion of that $2000 went into compromising sound for the conveniences that a soundbar brings, and there is nothing wrong with that if that is where one's priorities lie. |
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The "bass module" thing isn't totally exclusive to soundbars though, unless you have huge speakers you'd want an AVR to be doing the same as a soundbar. That's the crossover where the AVR rolls off the lower frequencies where the speakers response falls off into the subwoofer in addition to the true LFE channel, though a soundbar is likely going to have a higher crossover need than bookshelf-style separate speakers. Speaking of size of cones and the like, I recently became interested in the Keff T-series, and am fascinated by how they combine the hefty sound of separate speakers with the low depth profile. I've read reviews that say they must have a subwoofer to handle the lower frequencies, but they do seem to be rather impressive still. You can have a full separate system with the T-series but with very discrete speakers! Last edited by oddbox83; 01-18-2022 at 01:47 PM. |
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Oct 2010
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Again, soundbars have their place. We have 5 setups in my house, a dedicated HT with 7.1, two 3.0 AVR-based setups, and two using the TV speakers. The two using the TV speakers are in small bedrooms and for the most part sound fine. If they didn't I wouldn't hesitate to add $300 soundbars. Another thing, if I had a $300 soundbar that died after a couple years, I wouldn't fret it and would just replace it. However, if I had a $1000 or more soundbar that went south after only a few years I'd be upset because it is an all-or-nothing item that must be replaced. Unlike like a traditional AVR setup. Last edited by smithb; 01-18-2022 at 03:21 PM. |
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