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Old 12-28-2021, 08:20 PM   #181
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Old 12-28-2021, 08:37 PM   #182
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Finally getting a China release on 1/7/22.
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Old 12-28-2021, 08:58 PM   #183
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So far this is the worst movie of the year for me. And probably the worst disney movie ever.
















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Old 12-29-2021, 06:09 AM   #185
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1. Frozen
2. Raya
3. Frozen II
4. Encanto
5. Zootopia
6. Moana
7. Tangled
8. Wreck-It Ralph
9. Ralph Breaks the Internet
10. Big Hero 6
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Old 12-29-2021, 07:44 AM   #186
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Old 12-29-2021, 08:11 AM   #187
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So i saw this on Christmas Day, I had a lot of apprehensions because I'm Colombian myself and I was wondering how they would treat my culture.

First, I'll give my review as a Disney movie in its own right and then from the perspective of my culture.

The film itself was decent, although it didn't blow me away, the story itself had a lot of potential but left a lot of that on the table. It could have been even more fun than it was and really play with the concept of a living house with all these amazing rooms but they seem to want to spend more time being sincere and dewy-eyed about family. And I'm sorry, there were just too many songs this time around and only 2 felt were any good. I'm not sure how many there were but they really should have rained it in especially in the second half of the movie. They could have cut the last couple of songs as the movie ground to a halt every time just as you were getting into the story, and the same message could have been said in a couple of lines of dialogue.

I watched this with my mom and of course allowing for it to be animated, it was impressive as my mom grew up in a village that looked just like that in the '60s, she was basically a countryside girl and apparently look like Isabela but with lighter skin But it all felt very surface level and superficial, you can copy the clothes and have arepas in the background but it doesn't feel authentic in any way. Which was a great shame. Also, they could have a riot with the music because Colombian is rich, exciting and would have you dancing with your feet, but we mostly get a collection of bubble-gum typical western numbers with no authentic sounds of our country and was entirely inappropriate to the setting. What a huge missed opportunity.

Overall it was 'fine', I'd probably watch it again in a year or two but in no rush. Both me and my mom agreed that Coco was a far better movie and felt more authentic to the Latin culture. Pixar nailed it with that one, better more appropriate music and the story was a heck of a lot more fun.

6/10 (coco is a solid 8/10)
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Old 12-29-2021, 08:13 AM   #188
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Hey! I really liked Dinosaur!
To my knowledge, Dinosaur is the only Disney animated film where people died making it. True story. They were shooting a live-action background plate on a crane, two guys and the camera on top, and the crane operator accidentally swung the two into high-voltage power lines. Killed them instantly and the crane operator was also injured.

That doesn't make Dinosaur a bad movie...the plan was not to use any dialog and just tell the story visually, as in the bravura opening sequence. Michael Eisner insisted on modern dialog, and the writing was not Disney's finest hour...the same problem as the next three films (Brother Bear, Home on the Range, and Chicken Little). Writing had already become something of an issue, arguably starting with Pocahontas and the gargoyle characters in Hunchback, which made the Pixar brand stand out even more from the Disney product...solid writing in addition to the visuals, beginning with the Oscar-nominated screenplay for Toy Story (which was a milestone for American animation itself).

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Old 12-29-2021, 08:17 AM   #189
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To my knowledge, Dinosaur is the only Disney animated film where people died shooting it. True story. They were shooting a background plate on a crane, two guys and the camera on top, and the crane operator accidentally swung them into high-voltage power lines. Killed the two instantly and the crane operator was also injured.

That doesn't make Dinosaur a bad movie...the plan was not to use any dialog and just tell the story visually. Michael Eisner insisted on modern dialog, and the writing was not Disney's finest hour...the same problem as the next three films produced under his watch (Brother Bear, Home on the Range, and Chicken Little)
Wasn't everything between The Great Mouse Detective until Chicken Little produced under his watch? The next three films after Dinosaur are Atlantis, Lilo and Stitch and Treasure Planet.

By the way: funny that Disney considers Dinosaur animation and The Lion King live action when Dinosaur has more live action shots than The Lion King.
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Seems like each time someone wins a Tony for Best Musical in the last decade, Disney's like "I'm here to talk to you about the Disney initiative":

Pasek and Paul/Dear Evan Hansen = Aladdin (remake), Snow White

Robert Lopez/The Book of Mormon = Frozen, Coco

Lin-Manuel Miranda/Hamilton = Moana, Encanto, Mary Poppins Returns, The Little Mermaid (remake).

Have they announced anything with Anais Mitchell?

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Old 12-29-2021, 08:28 AM   #191
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Seems like each time someone wins a Tony for Best Musical in the last decade, Disney's like "I'm here to talk to you about the Disney initiative":

Pasek and Paul/Dear Evan Hansen = Aladdin (remake), Snow White

Robert Lopez/The Book of Mormon = Frozen, Coco

Lin-Manuel Miranda/Hamilton = Moana, Encanto, Mary Poppins Returns, The Little Mermaid.

Have they announced anything with Anais Mitchell?
The songs in Mary Poppins Returns were written by Marc Shaiman and Scott Wittman, not Lin-Manuel Miranda.
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The songs in Mary Poppins Returns were written by Marc Shaiman and Scott Wittman, not Lin-Manuel Miranda.
My point was that they get involved in their projects.
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Old 12-29-2021, 08:37 AM   #193
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Wasn't everything between The Great Mouse Detective until Chicken Little produced under his watch? The next three films after Dinosaur are Atlantis, Lilo and Stitch and Treasure Planet.
I was fixing that when you posted...it's 3:30 a.m., should have been asleep hours ago but I stayed up for The Book of Boba Fett...

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By the way: funny that Disney considers Dinosaur animation and The Lion King live action when Dinosaur has more live action shots than The Lion King.
Don't get me started on The Lion King 2019...I watched it in ten-minute chunks because I could only take it 10 minutes at a time before rage-quitting it. I dislike it so much, I don't even want to talk about it. Glad I didn't pay to see it on theaters...they would have had to put me down with animal tranquilizers.
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1. Luca
2. Soul
3. Encanto
4. Raya and the Last Dragon
5. Onward
I still haven't seen three films on that list...I adored Soul, don't get me hyped for Luca. Onward is going to be hard to beat for the most disappointing film on that list. It's not bad, just forgettable.
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I still haven't seen three films on that list...I adored Soul, don't get me hyped for Luca. Onward is going to be hard to beat for the most disappointing film on that list. It's not bad, just formulaic and forgettable. I'd even rank Cars 2 and The Good Dinosaur over Onward.
Luca might not be as ambitious as Soul, but it's a charming quaint film in my opinion.
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I still haven't seen three films on that list...I adored Soul, don't get me hyped for Luca. Onward is going to be hard to beat for the most disappointing film on that list. It's not bad, just formulaic and forgettable.
Onward is so derivative it looks like it was made by Sony or a lesser 2nd rate studio. I don't know why it got so many rave reviews.
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Onward is so derivative it looks like it was made by Sony or a lesser 2nd rate studio. I don't know why it got so many rave reviews.
All animated films from Pixar and Disney get rave reviews even if they are pretty mediocre. Critics really think about them as children's films and nothing more and if kids love it then it's a "good" movie. This wasn't the case 20 years ago. Disney would never dare making something like Hunchback ever again.
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All animated films from Pixar and Disney get rave reviews even if they are pretty mediocre. Critics really think about them as children's films and nothing more and if kids love it then it's a "good" movie. This wasn't the case 20 years ago. Disney would never dare making something like Hunchback ever again.
Disney animation used to have no problem at all with frightening children, going all the way back to Snow White (Walt had to famously defend Snow White to the British press, answering criticism the film was too scary for kids by saying Snow White wasn't a kids film), following that up with Pinocchio, Fantasia, Bambi...as late 1959 Walt was still getting grief, with the New York Times calling the dragon fight in Sleeping Beauty, "his most frightening go-round yet". The last Disney animated films I can think of that might frighten young children are Dinosaur and maybe the "Firebird" sequence of Fantasia/2000, and those were over 20 years ago. There was also that Alien Encounter attraction at the Magic Kingdom, which was horror-tropey but a lot of fun...parents complained so much, Disney finally had to pull it, even after replacing the alien with Stitch. I guess modern Disney doesn't want to hear the gripes of upset parents.
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I thought this was just okay -- I didn't LOVE the music like I expected to (but to be fair, Lin Manuel Miranda hasn't grown on me) and a lot of the characters were one-dimensional. It wasn't terrible, but it's not amazing either. I liked Moana more.
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