Crime Story / The Protector (Jackie Chan) Double Feature - January 15,2013 Pre-order - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

OldPangYau · 10-24-2012, 02:33 AM

Okay, so... there's a *rumor* that these will be true HD transfers NOT from Fortune Star. Don't know much more though

EDIT: Okay, now there's a chance it may still be the Fortune Star masters... so I guess this post just canceled itself out. Ugh. Hopefully I'll find out something more concrete.

drees5761 · 11-10-2012, 10:00 AM

Also rumours that The Protector will also contain the HK cut done by Jackie.
See here....http://www.cityonfire.com/jackie-cha...shout-factory/
http://asianactioncinema.co.uk/crime...u-ray-release/

Lets hope so

chrisron · 11-11-2012, 09:03 AM

I would be fantastic if the HK version is included. I already own it on DVD, but it could really need an upgrade.

OldPangYau · 11-12-2012, 06:04 PM

Well, I sent a message to Shout Factory, via their Facebook page, and this was the response:

"Yes, that's accurate. The Hong Kong cut will be a bonus feature."

Of course, this is vague, as this could mean it's just a rip of the Universe Laser DVD, for all we know. Hopefully Fortune Star has a master of the HK cut sitting around somewhere for at least a decent standard def transfer... lord knows asking for an HD version of the HK cut would be a miracle!

chrisron · 11-16-2012, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Special Features for the Blu-ray Edition: For Crime Story: Interview with director Kirk Wong, deleted scenes and theatrical trailers. For The Protector: From New York to Hong Kong – Interview with director James Glickenhaus, Behind-the-scenes featurette, theatrical trailers and the Jackie Chan Cut of The Protector with additional scenes directed by Chan (In Cantonese with English Subtitles – Standard Definition)

link

Bummer that the HK version is SD only, but I will still buy it.

The DVDs I own of Crime Story and The Protector (am. Ed.) have some extras not on this release so I guess I'll make my own set of Blu-rays and DVDs.

OldPangYau · 11-17-2012, 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisron

link

Bummer that the HK version is SD only, but I will still buy it.

The DVDs I own of Crime Story and The Protector (am. Ed.) have some extras not on this release so I guess I'll make my own set of Blu-rays and DVDs.

Hmm, the Crime Story extras sound suspiciously similar to the Dragon Dynasty DVD. However, the extras for The Protector (excluding the HK cut) sound brand new. It'll be interesting (controversial?) to hear Glickenhaus' side of the stories behind the making of the film. We all know Chan had issues with him.

Dragon Lee · 12-01-2012, 06:47 PM

Japanese blu has the HK cut (in SD, I believe) as well as an alternate Japanese "hybrid" cut which combines footage from both US and HK cuts with rarely seen Japanese outtakes/credits sequence. Too bad nothing is subtitled. Quite frankly, no matter which cut u watch, Protector is a lousy movie. But the real meat on the bones here is Jackie's re-shot final showdown vs. Bill Wallace which is like night and day compared to US version. kudos to Shout Factory for including Jackie's preferred cut.

cmac · 12-01-2012, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldPangYau

Well, I sent a message to Shout Factory, via their Facebook page, and this was the response:

"Yes, that's accurate. The Hong Kong cut will be a bonus feature."

Of course, this is vague, as this could mean it's just a rip of the Universe Laser DVD, for all we know. Hopefully Fortune Star has a master of the HK cut sitting around somewhere for at least a decent standard def transfer... lord knows asking for an HD version of the HK cut would be a miracle!

We found a master in the UK. We didn't rip it from a disc.
It still doesn't look great as its an old transfer.

drees5761 · 12-14-2012, 03:27 PM

The next Jackie Double bill from Shout Factory is up on Amazon....Killer Meteors and New Fist Of Fury...what a poor selection.....

Jackie Chan: Beginnings - The Killer Meteors / New Fist Of Fury

chrisron · 12-14-2012, 03:58 PM

I only own the Killer Meteors on VCD, so if they release a decent uncut transfer with a Mandarin track, then I might get it. (Even though the movie is quite bad)

Already have New Fist of Fury on DVD.

EDIT: If Amazon is correct about the runtimes it seems like it's the 1980 version of New Fist of Fury that is included. That is 40 mins. shorter than the 1976 version.

OldPangYau · 12-14-2012, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmac

We found a master in the UK. We didn't rip it from a disc.
It still doesn't look great as its an old transfer.

Still more promising than the Hong Kong DVD for the HK cut!

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisron

EDIT: If Amazon is correct about the runtimes it seems like it's the 1980 version of New Fist of Fury that is included. That is 40 mins. shorter than the 1976 version.

Most likely a Fortune Star master, as they decided to use that cut. No idea why, as Fortune Star normally tried to obtain the longest cuts of films to master... just look at the extended/alternate cuts of Dragon Lord, Police Story 2, and Game of Death 2.

cmac · 12-14-2012, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drees5761

The next Jackie Double bill from Shout Factory is up on Amazon....Killer Meteors and New Fist Of Fury...what a poor selection.....

Jackie Chan: Beginnings - The Killer Meteors / New Fist Of Fury

This is a Timeless Media Group budget release, not a Shout Factory title.

drees5761 · 12-14-2012, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmac

This is a Timeless Media Group budget release, not a Shout Factory title.

Oh OK.
It says on Amazon...Studio: Shout! Factory / Timeless Media, thats what confused me...

OldPangYau · 12-14-2012, 11:02 PM

It also says PG-13, which New Fist of Fury obviously is not, if the "twist" ending is anything to go by

drees5761 · 12-19-2012, 09:29 AM

Not one i will be buying..here's the first review i have seen....
http://hkfilm.net/dvdrevs/jackiedouble.htm
As it looks like an upscale (Fortune Star to blame as opposed to Shout Factory) and as i have the Jackie Chan cut of The Protector on DVD anyway, i will give this a miss...

willo007 · 12-19-2012, 02:52 PM

Is this a 2 disc set or both movies in 1 disc? If is only a 1 disc set, I'll have to pass since I dont subscribe to the walmart budget style of this release. I personaly upgrated to Blu to get the absolute best and not these type of double feature releases.

OldPangYau · 12-19-2012, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drees5761

Not one i will be buying..here's the first review i have seen....
http://hkfilm.net/dvdrevs/jackiedouble.htm
As it looks like an upscale (Fortune Star to blame as opposed to Shout Factory) and as i have the Jackie Chan cut of The Protector on DVD anyway, i will give this a miss...

DAMN IT! That's it, as long as Fortune Star continues to supply companies with these "HD" masters that aren't HD (Bruce Lee's three completed Hong Kong movies, aside), I'm not buying them if I see their logo. We've tried to tell Shout! that they're upscaled/upconverted, but they insist continually that they're not, and Fortune Star is blatantly lying to them when supplying them with the masters.

Done, just... done.

manicsounds · 01-07-2013, 09:39 AM

DVDTalk review

drees5761 · 01-14-2013, 01:52 PM

Review from this site....https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Jacki.../56991/#Review

Just confirms its a poor upscale...anyone from Shout Factory care to comment on why these were used?

chrisron · 01-14-2013, 04:37 PM

After reading a couple of reviews I will probably end up keeping my DVDs instead of buying this.

10-24-2012, 02:33 AM	#21
OldPangYau Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Blu-ray collection:596 DVD collection:194	Okay, so... there's a rumor that these will be true HD transfers NOT from Fortune Star. Don't know much more though EDIT: Okay, now there's a chance it may still be the Fortune Star masters... so I guess this post just canceled itself out. Ugh. Hopefully I'll find out something more concrete. Last edited by OldPangYau; 10-24-2012 at 05:09 PM.

12-14-2012, 03:58 PM	#30
chrisron Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Mar 2011 Location:Norway Blu-ray collection:1489	I only own the Killer Meteors on VCD, so if they release a decent uncut transfer with a Mandarin track, then I might get it. (Even though the movie is quite bad) Already have New Fist of Fury on DVD. EDIT: If Amazon is correct about the runtimes it seems like it's the 1980 version of New Fist of Fury that is included. That is 40 mins. shorter than the 1976 version. Last edited by chrisron; 12-14-2012 at 04:06 PM.

12-19-2012, 02:52 PM	#36
willo007 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:May 2011 4K collection:693 Blu-ray collection:5384 DVD collection:11 Digital collection:10 Trading Score:207	Is this a 2 disc set or both movies in 1 disc? If is only a 1 disc set, I'll have to pass since I dont subscribe to the walmart budget style of this release. I personaly upgrated to Blu to get the absolute best and not these type of double feature releases. Last edited by willo007; 12-19-2012 at 02:55 PM.

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11-10-2012, 10:00 AM	#22
drees5761 Expert Member Member since:Nov 2009 Blu-ray collection:274 Blu-ray reviews: 6	Also rumours that The Protector will also contain the HK cut done by Jackie. See here....http://www.cityonfire.com/jackie-cha...shout-factory/ http://asianactioncinema.co.uk/crime...u-ray-release/ Lets hope so

11-11-2012, 09:03 AM	#23
chrisron Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Mar 2011 Location:Norway Blu-ray collection:1489	I would be fantastic if the HK version is included. I already own it on DVD, but it could really need an upgrade.

11-12-2012, 06:04 PM	#24
OldPangYau Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Blu-ray collection:596 DVD collection:194	Well, I sent a message to Shout Factory, via their Facebook page, and this was the response: "Yes, that's accurate. The Hong Kong cut will be a bonus feature." Of course, this is vague, as this could mean it's just a rip of the Universe Laser DVD, for all we know. Hopefully Fortune Star has a master of the HK cut sitting around somewhere for at least a decent standard def transfer... lord knows asking for an HD version of the HK cut would be a miracle!

12-01-2012, 06:47 PM	#27
Dragon Lee Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Minneapolis, MN Home Theater Gallery:3 4K collection:534 Blu-ray collection:3389 DVD collection:357 Digital collection:142 Blu-ray reviews: 84 Trading Score:108	Japanese blu has the HK cut (in SD, I believe) as well as an alternate Japanese "hybrid" cut which combines footage from both US and HK cuts with rarely seen Japanese outtakes/credits sequence. Too bad nothing is subtitled. Quite frankly, no matter which cut u watch, Protector is a lousy movie. But the real meat on the bones here is Jackie's re-shot final showdown vs. Bill Wallace which is like night and day compared to US version. kudos to Shout Factory for including Jackie's preferred cut.

12-14-2012, 03:27 PM	#29
drees5761 Expert Member Member since:Nov 2009 Blu-ray collection:274 Blu-ray reviews: 6	The next Jackie Double bill from Shout Factory is up on Amazon....Killer Meteors and New Fist Of Fury...what a poor selection..... Jackie Chan: Beginnings - The Killer Meteors / New Fist Of Fury

12-14-2012, 11:02 PM	#34
OldPangYau Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Blu-ray collection:596 DVD collection:194	It also says PG-13, which New Fist of Fury obviously is not, if the "twist" ending is anything to go by

12-19-2012, 09:29 AM	#35
drees5761 Expert Member Member since:Nov 2009 Blu-ray collection:274 Blu-ray reviews: 6	Not one i will be buying..here's the first review i have seen.... http://hkfilm.net/dvdrevs/jackiedouble.htm As it looks like an upscale (Fortune Star to blame as opposed to Shout Factory) and as i have the Jackie Chan cut of The Protector on DVD anyway, i will give this a miss...

01-07-2013, 09:39 AM	#38
manicsounds Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Tokyo 4K collection:110 Blu-ray collection:4330 Blu-ray reviews: 99	DVDTalk review

01-14-2013, 01:52 PM	#39
drees5761 Expert Member Member since:Nov 2009 Blu-ray collection:274 Blu-ray reviews: 6	Review from this site....https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Jacki.../56991/#Review Just confirms its a poor upscale...anyone from Shout Factory care to comment on why these were used?

01-14-2013, 04:37 PM	#40
chrisron Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Mar 2011 Location:Norway Blu-ray collection:1489	After reading a couple of reviews I will probably end up keeping my DVDs instead of buying this.

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