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Old 12-31-2012, 08:59 PM   #1
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Panasonic is reportedly due to halt R&D activities for its plasma TVs to concentrate on developing OLED technology.

After clocking up record losses over the last two years, Panasonic could be seeking to limit any future damage by halting R&D on plasma technology in March 2013. The manufacturer should still carry on selling plasma TVs for a while yet, but this kind of technology clearly has its days numbered. In fact, plasmas could be phased out for good in 2014 to make way for upcoming OLED technology, which boasts all the benefits of plasma and LCD (infinite contrast, wide viewing angles, good response times, etc.) without the drawbacks.

We'll no doubt have to wait until the CES 2013 tech show in two weeks' time for an official response from Panasonic. We'll keep you updated on the matter as soon as we hear more.

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Old 12-31-2012, 11:54 PM   #2
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There's me just getting ready to swap from LCD to Plasma. I might just move onto plan-B and just go for that LED now.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:54 AM   #3
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Panasonic is reportedly due to halt R&D activities for its plasma TVs to concentrate on developing OLED technology.

After clocking up record losses over the last two years, Panasonic could be seeking to limit any future damage by halting R&D on plasma technology in March 2013. The manufacturer should still carry on selling plasma TVs for a while yet, but this kind of technology clearly has its days numbered. In fact, plasmas could be phased out for good in 2014 to make way for upcoming OLED technology, which boasts all the benefits of plasma and LCD (infinite contrast, wide viewing angles, good response times, etc.) without the drawbacks.

We'll no doubt have to wait until the CES 2013 tech show in two weeks' time for an official response from Panasonic. We'll keep you updated on the matter as soon as we hear more.
This comes to me as no surprise.first panasonic bought kuro technology and kept such a fine pattern away from all the plasma Customers/Consumers.And kept on developing its own R&D on plasma.Spending money unwisely.
It should have marketed the same kuro under panasonic brand,which its R&D team did not allow.Now if they are in deep financial trouble who is to be blamed ?
We consumers want rock solid tv units without bugs and pioneer was able to deliver it but at a price.But was not viable then !
Funny fact is they kept on releasing new series like VT20,VT30,VT50.But none could equal the pioneer kuro.And even without perfecting one technology they keep jumping from one product to another.And consumers are made the scape goats.
Multinational companies & Consumer durable giants attitudes must change at least from this year_2013.

Wish you all a happy new year,
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:31 AM   #4
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This comes to me as no surprise.first panasonic bought kuro technology and kept such a fine pattern away from all the plasma Customers/Consumers.And kept on developing its own R&D on plasma.Spending money unwisely.
It should have marketed the same kuro under panasonic brand,which its R&D team did not allow.Now if they are in deep financial trouble who is to be blamed ?
We consumers want rock solid tv units without bugs and pioneer was able to deliver it but at a price.But was not viable then !
Funny fact is they kept on releasing new series like VT20,VT30,VT50.But none could equal the pioneer kuro.And even without perfecting one technology they keep jumping from one product to another.And consumers are made the scape goats.
Multinational companies & Consumer durable giants attitudes must change at least from this year_2013.

Wish you all a happy new year,
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Got a source for this ? Yes, Panny bought SOME of the Pioneer tech, but that's it. And they didn't buy the fab. It took both parts of the equation to produce a Kuro ...
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Old 01-01-2013, 12:32 PM   #5
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This comes to me as no surprise.first panasonic bought kuro technology and kept such a fine pattern away from all the plasma Customers/Consumers.And kept on developing its own R&D on plasma.Spending money unwisely.
It should have marketed the same kuro under panasonic brand,which its R&D team did not allow.Now if they are in deep financial trouble who is to be blamed ?
We consumers want rock solid tv units without bugs and pioneer was able to deliver it but at a price.But was not viable then !
Funny fact is they kept on releasing new series like VT20,VT30,VT50.But none could equal the pioneer kuro.And even without perfecting one technology they keep jumping from one product to another.And consumers are made the scape goats.
Multinational companies & Consumer durable giants attitudes must change at least from this year_2013.

Wish you all a happy new year,
kris.
I was under the impression that the VT50 had reached KURO type black levels, no? Well if OLED sets carry all the benefits of plasma, minus the threat of burn in then I'll gladly wait on those sets to become affordable.

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Old 01-01-2013, 05:08 PM   #6
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Makes me glad I grabbed the 55" UT50 yesterday as it's the best reviewed PQ I could find in my budget, and it will be quite a while before OLEDs get into my price range. So I'll have a solid TV for several years while OLED tech gets perfected and drops in price.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:25 PM   #7
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If this is true, then plasma is dead (Samsung & LG would be the only two plasma makers).
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:41 PM   #8
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Sounds like they're not going to research how far they can push plasma past 2012 models. Whatever seems the limit has been reached for plasma with Pioneer Kuro and the VT50 anyway. Time to make OLED something viable.
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Old 01-01-2013, 08:48 PM   #9
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Sounds like they're not going to research how far they can push plasma past 2012 models. Whatever seems the limit has been reached for plasma with Pioneer Kuro and the VT50 anyway. Time to make OLED something viable.
and affordable
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Old 01-01-2013, 08:50 PM   #10
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sounds like they're not going to research how far they can push plasma past 2012 models. Whatever seems the limit has been reached for plasma with pioneer kuro and the vt50 anyway. Time to make oled something viable.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:02 AM   #11
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i've spied 2 plasmas i wanna get here soon. i wonder if i should wait and grab an OLED in 2013..but hte price is probably stupid high for them. Is there a way to watch streaming of CES next week?
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:36 AM   #12
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i've spied 2 plasmas i wanna get here soon. i wonder if i should wait and grab an OLED in 2013..but hte price is probably stupid high for them.
TV sales are dropping in general. Makes sense since many people already have flat-panel TVs and won't be quick to trash yesterday's model for a newer one or for a new technology. After all, they aren't disposable like cellphones. Therefore, when OLED sets hit the market, most people won't jump at them. Accordingly, they will become affordable sooner than later if they are to survive at all.
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TV sales are dropping in general. Makes sense since many people already have flat-panel TVs and won't be quick to trash yesterday's model for a newer one or for a new technology. After all, they aren't disposable like cellphones. Therefore, when OLED sets hit the market, most people won't jump at them. Accordingly, they will become affordable sooner than later if they are to survive at all.
Yeah, i saw there was an overall drop in tv sales world wide. There is a huge drop off of like 40" and lower if i remember. the only real (healthy?) area is the 50" + which had a 15% increase or so. do you know if oleds will be as crisp as plasma w/ no motion blur?
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Yeah, i saw there was an overall drop in tv sales world wide. There is a huge drop off of like 40" and lower if i remember. the only real (healthy?) area is the 50" + which had a 15% increase or so. do you know if oleds will be as crisp as plasma w/ no motion blur?
I'm hoping the picture quality will resemble a direct-view CRT HDTV's more than anything else, offering accurate colors, no motion blur, clear off-angle viewing, and true blacks. Let's not forget that neither LCD nor plasma caught up with the CRT in these areas, even though plasma came close. Despite its limited production, the direct-view CRT HDTV remains at the pinnacle of TV PQ in my opinion, and its only weakness was a limited screen size. If OLED can at least match the CRT for PQ, it will be a giant step forward and then some, given that OLEDs will have much larger screens than CRTs ever did.
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If this results in OLED sets in the same price/size ratio as current plasmas, then I'm perfectly fine with this move. Even if prices are up to 20% higher, I'm willing to pay for the improvements OLED will bring.
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Hmmm...2014/2015 may be the time when I'll possibly be looking at a TV upgrade. I guess I'll cross that bridge when I get there. Love my Panasonic plasma
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lg just released the first consumer 55 inch oled--"only" $10,000.
it is clear that the future is oled, so I say bring it on.
I love my VT50, but would love to see a Panasonic oled also.
makes sense to head in that direction asap.
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Hmmm...2014/2015 may be the time when I'll possibly be looking at a TV upgrade. I guess I'll cross that bridge when I get there. Love my Panasonic plasma

+1 but 2017 i will be looking.
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lg just released the first consumer 55 inch oled--"only" $10,000.
it is clear that the future is oled, so I say bring it on.
I love my VT50, but would love to see a Panasonic oled also.
makes sense to head in that direction asap.
rofl, all this new tech that normal consumers can't come close to affording.
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If this is true, then plasma is dead (Samsung & LG would be the only two plasma makers).
No, no, plasma died in 2009 when Vizio and Pioneer exited the display market don't you remember?
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