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![]() ![]() Gomorrah: The Complete Season One Blu-ray ![]() NEWS/TRAILER https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=14638 Quote:
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Thanks given by: | kashif (08-02-2014), Lizard King (08-03-2014) |
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Wow, based on the specs, it looks like Arrow might not mess this series up.
4 discs for 12 55-minute episodes and Italian: DTS-HD MA 5.1 audio. The series is pre-ordered, but I will believe it when I see it, after their string of disappointingly compressed Nordic Noir series releases. |
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Braquo S1 has some obvious errors in the subtitles, which pissed me off, but it sounds like Arrow just used a distributor prepared master for that... |
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And likely because of the compression, there are also irregularities across releases with the type of soundtracks offered: Quote:
EDIT: And let's not forget the 2013 Wallander films, which Arrow neglected to release on Blu-ray at all. And of course, the Scandinavian BDs are not English-friendly, probably because of Arrow's licensing (yes, previous Scandinavian Wallander DVDs have English subtitles). Quote:
So the question is: Will this be handled by Arrow like a Nordic Series, or like a French one? My hope is on the French side, but I have just seen that the Dutch release of Gommorah: Season One (via Lumière) is specified 3 discs, with only DTS-HD MA 2.0 audio (the Italians are saying the sound design is 5.1), so hopefully, Arrow has access to better materials, and the good sense to use them. Last edited by McCrutchy; 08-02-2014 at 10:27 AM. |
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Thanks a lot for this great news. I never read the book but highly impressed by the movie. I hope this show will be as good as the movie itself. I am expecting some serious violence and high quality direction. Kindly post a review as soon as possible.
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If the German Blu-ray cases are to be believed, their releases have only Dolby Digital 2.0 audio across the first two series. On the other hand, the four seasons of Spiral, which I own, all have 24-bit DTS-HD MA 5.1, so Canal+ was and is certainly producing series in 5.1. So it is a hell of a situation, really. If a series is shot with 5.1 audio, then the licensor should be handing that out as part of the package. It wouldn't make any sense for them to withhold a 5.1 mix but allow the rest of the series to go out overseas, because that's shortchanging their product, and in the end, the series can only suffer for it. |
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Borgen and The Bridge are definitely 5 hours per disc (The Killing s1 is 4 hrs per disc but s2 and s3 are 5 hrs per disc). That does mean bitrates for Borgen, The Bridge and The Killing s2 and s3 are in the 15-20 MBPS range (bitrates for The Killing s1 are between the 20-30 MBPS range). But again, having seen these seasons, I did not notice any overt compression artifacts on a 60" screen (not huge I know but big enough to spot overt compression artifacts on other discs). I would score The Bridge and Borgen s1 as 4/5 for PQ. Killing s1 maybe a 3.75/5, mainly because it was shot with older cameras with more noise. That's not to say that more breathing room would not have allowed a better picture though. I have the Nordic release of The Bridge s1 which has 4 hrs per disc for discs 1 and 2 plus 2 hrs on the last disc. The PQ is better than the UK release (bitrates on the 4 hr discs are between 20-30 MBPS) but probably only 0.5/5 better (ie I would score it 4.5/5). Last edited by nitin; 08-05-2014 at 03:10 AM. |
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And in general, these are new series shot digitally with the latest equipment, so they do not suffer terribly from compression issues if they are handled correctly. But my understanding stops at nonsense like releasing a series with non-lossless audio, or lossless 2.0 audio for a 5.1 series. Again, these are new release series, and the least Arrow can do is release them with enough care to provide fully lossless audio in the original sound design. It isn't as if they are providing extras on most of these releases (Borgen excepted, and yes, the short piece on Series 2 of The Killing). Right now, I am quite nervous (especially seeing the specs from the Dutch release), that Gomorrah will not be a 4 disc set with DTS-HD MA 5.1 audio, but a 3 disc set with DTS-HD MA / LPCM 2.0 audio. Arrow's shop are selling this very cheaply (£25.99 on a £25.99 RRP) right now, and of course, the specs are not (and knowing Arrow, likely will not be) detailed on their product page. |
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![]() EDIT: No 5.1 audio, just LPCM 2.0 Stereo. Subtitles are optional. Last edited by samdvd1; 10-23-2014 at 10:50 PM. |
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Thanks given by: | nitin (10-24-2014) |
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The Weinstein Company bought the U.S. rights for the series and are planning on an English-version adaptation. So, we probably won't be seeing this anytime soon. |
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Perhaps I will re-order when the price is right. |
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I'm 5 episodes in now. The aliasing / jaggies are absolutely hellish. The PQ isn't bad, but this problem is far too noticeable and causes problems on details of small items (especially jewellery). Not good enough for a 3.5/5, but too good for a 3/5 IMO. I'll likely give it a 3.5 with an obvious note myself, transfer wise.
AQ, despite no 5.1, is very good. Good depth, and no issues. Easy 4/5 Really digging the show so far too. |
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