UHD-BD Disc Size / Movie Size - Blu-ray Forum

Wiidesire · 05-10-2016, 11:14 AM

I got a LG BH16NS55 PC drive which ran read the UHD-BD file structure and wanted to start this thread in order to collect information about disc and movie sizes of UHD-BD releases.
Video Bitrates over 60 Mbps are marked green and under 40 Mbps marked red. Note that low bitrates don't automatically result in a bad picture quality, it's heavily dependend on the source material and encoding process.

PRO-630HD · 05-10-2016, 02:31 PM

Hopefully some of the review sites and caps-a-holic.com get that one of these machines soon to see what we are getting for bitrate.

uther · 05-11-2016, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PRO-630HD

Hopefully some of the review sites and caps-a-holic.com get that one of these machines soon to see what we are getting for bitrate.

Pretty sure the bitrate is blocked by the DRM.

Wiidesire · 05-13-2016, 04:39 PM

Added The Martian.

bruceames · 05-13-2016, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by uther

Pretty sure the bitrate is blocked by the DRM.

Well you can still get the average bit rate from the movie file, and extrapolate the video bit rate based on the included audio files and get it accurate to within a mbps or two. For peak bit rate I guess someone over on the other side of the pond can watch it on their Panny UHD player and see how high it goes. That would be fun.

HD Goofnut · 05-13-2016, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiidesire

Added The Martian.

Just to let you know, the abbreviation for Germany is DE rather than GER.

Wiidesire · 05-13-2016, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Just to let you know, the abbreviation for Germany is DE rather than GER.

Really? I thought that we exclusively use that on our own in Germany.
I just checked and it seems like D, DE, BRD, FRG or GER is possible.
Because we are on the internet right now and .de is the top level domain, I just changed it.

uther · 05-13-2016, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiidesire

[*]The Martian (DE) | 48,9 GB (52.553.056.256 Bytes) | 45,4 GB (48.825.894.912 Bytes)

Fox could of just used a 50GB blu-ray disc to put the UHD on...

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Originally Posted by bruceames.

Well you can still get the average bit rate from the movie file, and extrapolate the video bit rate based on the included audio files and get it accurate to within a mbps or two. For peak bit rate I guess someone over on the other side of the pond can watch it on their Panny UHD player and see how high it goes. That would be fun.

That's not my idea of fun.

legends of beyond · 05-14-2016, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by uther

That's not my idea of fun.

For some people it is.

Wiidesire · 05-14-2016, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by uther

Fox could of just used a 50GB blu-ray disc to put the UHD on...

Yeah I don't know why they would master The Martian this way...
I now ordered every single UHD disc available in Germany, more titles are coming soon.

Wiidesire · 05-17-2016, 02:47 PM

Added Kingsman, Life of Pi and Maze Runner.

Wiidesire · 05-18-2016, 12:26 PM

Added The Revenant and Mad Max.

Pieter V · 05-19-2016, 09:44 AM

Blu-ray.com finally added BD info for 4K Blu-ray.

I fixed all 4K Blu-ray reviews. Some reviewers gave them 100-GB discs.

Wiidesire · 05-19-2016, 03:50 PM

Added Creed, In the Heart of the Sea, Pan, The Lego Movie and Maze Runner - The Scorch Trials.

The Lego Movie 4k Ultra HD has regular BD-DL size

bruceames · 05-19-2016, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiidesire

The Lego Movie 4k Ultra HD has regular BD-DL size

I think animation is not as demanding on bit rate as is live action? Anyway the important thing is how good it looks and Lego Movie looks very good.

Another point is that it's only 100 minutes. The Martian is 150 minutes so actually that movie will have a lower bitrate.

Wiidesire · 05-19-2016, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bruceames.

I think animation is not as demanding on bit rate as is live action?

That's actually a good point, haven't thought about that.
Regardless it's a shame that not every release has maxed out capacity. I mean, a higher bitrate does not hurt.

Also many releases only have german DTS sound instead of DTS-HD or TrueHD or even Dolby Atmos/DTS:X even though the disc has ~10 GB free capacity left

bruceames · 05-19-2016, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiidesire

Also many releases only have german DTS sound instead of DTS-HD or TrueHD or even Dolby Atmos/DTS:X even though the disc has ~10 GB free capacity left

Yeah no reason for that. An Atmos layer only takes up an extra gig or two.

ray0414 · 05-19-2016, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiidesire

Added Creed, In the Heart of the Sea, Pan, The Lego Movie and Maze Runner - The Scorch Trials.

The Lego Movie 4k Ultra HD has regular BD-DL size

Any comments on how the new movies look?

Wiidesire · 05-19-2016, 05:38 PM

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Any comments on how the new movies look?

Can't tell yet. My Hisense H65MEC5550 and Samsung UBD-K8500 have some handshake issues on the HDMI 2.0 HDCP 2.2 ports, I get no signal.
I'm currently running it from one of the HDMI 1.4 ports -> 1080p and no HDR.

Wiidesire · 05-21-2016, 10:44 AM

Added Exodus: Gods and Kings, Hitman: Agent 47 and Joy.

05-10-2016, 11:14 AM	#1
Wiidesire Active Member Member since:Jan 2016	UHD-BD Disc Size / Movie Size I got a LG BH16NS55 PC drive which ran read the UHD-BD file structure and wanted to start this thread in order to collect information about disc and movie sizes of UHD-BD releases. Video Bitrates over 60 Mbps are marked green and under 40 Mbps marked red. Note that low bitrates don't automatically result in a bad picture quality, it's heavily dependend on the source material and encoding process. Last edited by Wiidesire; 09-23-2016 at 05:07 PM.

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Pieter V Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:The Netherlands Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:14	Blu-ray.com finally added BD info for 4K Blu-ray. I fixed all 4K Blu-ray reviews. Some reviewers gave them 100-GB discs. Last edited by Pieter V; 05-19-2016 at 12:39 PM.

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05-10-2016, 02:31 PM	#2
PRO-630HD Power Member Member since:Oct 2009 Blu-ray reviews: 1	Hopefully some of the review sites and caps-a-holic.com get that one of these machines soon to see what we are getting for bitrate.

05-13-2016, 04:39 PM	#4
Wiidesire Active Member Member since:Jan 2016	Added The Martian.

05-17-2016, 02:47 PM	#11
Wiidesire Active Member Member since:Jan 2016	Added Kingsman, Life of Pi and Maze Runner.

05-18-2016, 12:26 PM	#12
Wiidesire Active Member Member since:Jan 2016	Added The Revenant and Mad Max.

05-19-2016, 03:50 PM	#14
Wiidesire Active Member Member since:Jan 2016	Added Creed, In the Heart of the Sea, Pan, The Lego Movie and Maze Runner - The Scorch Trials. The Lego Movie 4k Ultra HD has regular BD-DL size

05-21-2016, 10:44 AM	#20
Wiidesire Active Member Member since:Jan 2016	Added Exodus: Gods and Kings, Hitman: Agent 47 and Joy.

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