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Old 09-03-2018, 10:45 PM   #1081
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I thought the new Intel NUCs with AMD graphics on the Intel chip would work with a proper UHD 4K external drive. Perhaps I should pick one up soon and see?
According to a review at anandtech, Hades Canyon NUCs don't support UHD Blu-ray playback using their AMD GPU. See the bottom of this page:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12572...-benchmarked/7
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Old 09-04-2018, 02:27 AM   #1082
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What BD unit do you recomend me JUST to make safety copies of my UHD BD's?
Are there any affordable units on the market?
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Old 09-04-2018, 02:39 AM   #1083
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What BD unit do you recomend me JUST to make safety copies of my UHD BD's?
Are there any affordable units on the market?
You'll have to look elsewhere for that info. AFAIK, specific talk about copying discs isn't allowed around here.
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Old 09-05-2018, 11:39 AM   #1084
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From EVGA forum, a Windows 10 patch for the microcode update can fix the Non-first-crop Coffee-lake CPU's SGX problem too.
If your motherboard doesn't offer a BIOS update, you can try the Win10 patch.

First-crop Coffee-lake CPUs:
i3 8100
i3 8350K
i5 8400
i5 8600K
i7 8700
i7 8700K

Others:
All Cerelons & Pentiums
i3 8100T
i3 8300
i3 8300T
i5 8400T
i5 8500
i5 8500T
i5 8600
i5 8600T
i7 8700T
i7 8086K
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Old 09-05-2018, 08:57 PM   #1085
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From EVGA forum, a Windows 10 patch for the microcode update can fix the Non-first-crop Coffee-lake CPU's SGX problem too.
If your motherboard doesn't offer a BIOS update, you can try the Win10 patch.

First-crop Coffee-lake CPUs:
i3 8100
i3 8350K
i5 8400
i5 8600K
i7 8700
i7 8700K

Others:
All Cerelons & Pentiums
i3 8100T
i3 8300
i3 8300T
i5 8400T
i5 8500
i5 8500T
i5 8600
i5 8600T
i7 8700T
i7 8086K
So, you are saying that to use i5-8600 with Gigabyte Z370N-WIFI to enable SGX, we need to upgrade BIOS and also install Windows 10 patch for microcode?
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Old 09-05-2018, 09:15 PM   #1086
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It should have "Intel Software Guard Extension Platform" in the ''Utility'' folder.
Here is the direct link:
http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList....100.41172.zip
Just saw this reply.
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Old 09-05-2018, 09:26 PM   #1087
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Microsoft replied me that they had an instruction to downgrade Windows 10 to 1709.
https://answers.microsoft.com/messag...1-2611545265f3
Sorry the answer is Chinese and I can't translate the entire article into English.
The main step is
1) Download MediaCreationTool(MCT) & 1709 Catalog
2) Rename products_xxxxxxx.cab into products.cab
3) Use Cortana to open CMD
4) Run MCT.exe /selfhost in CMD
5) Follow the following instructions
Edit 1: Using Windows 10 Home USB Drive that I bought, I deleted entire HDD Partition, clean installed Windows 10 Home.

When I checked version, it shows 1709, so, the Windows 10 Home USB Drive that I bought was correct one.

Now I just don't have to install anything from windows update, cause to use BD/UHD Advisor, I am required to connect to Internet, in order to use it, so no choice.

Edit 2
Ok, I have done everything now.

I format the entire HDD, fresh installed Windows as above I said.

Installed everything that is from Gigabyte site, including the SGX installation file link that you gave me as link.

Installed UHD BD Advisor, PowerDVD 17.

And ran the UHD BD Advisor and booom!!!!

Guess what, I have finally succeeded, everything has passed.

I include screenshots at the bottom.
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Old 09-08-2018, 12:11 AM   #1088
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Sorry, I don't know where to ask elsewhere, is the external drive LG BP55EB40 Ultra-HD compatible?
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Old 09-08-2018, 08:05 PM   #1089
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Sorry, I don't know where to ask elsewhere, is the external drive LG BP55EB40 Ultra-HD compatible?
The LG BP55EB40 does not support UHD Blu-ray playback. There is no mention of UHD Blu-ray on LG's product page, plus the words "ULTRA HD Blu-ray" are not printed on its enclosure.

The new LG BP60NB10 is a drive with a similar form-factor and its specs note UHD Blu-ray support, assuming that one has a system that has all the other required features for UHD Blu-ray playback with PowerDVD 18 Ultra. Cyberlink UHD Blu-ray advisor can be used to confirm system compatibility.

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Old 09-08-2018, 09:31 PM   #1090
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The LG BP55EB40 does not support UHD Blu-ray playback. There is no mention of UHD Blu-ray on LG's product page, plus the words "ULTRA HD Blu-ray" are not printed on its enclosure.

The new LG BP60NB10 is a drive with a similar form-factor and its specs note UHD Blu-ray support, assuming that one has a system that has all the other required features for UHD Blu-ray playback with PowerDVD 18 Ultra. Cyberlink UHD Blu-ray advisor can be used to confirm system compatibility.
Oh, I got PowerDVD 17Ultra and finally succeeded on making UHD Blu-ray advisor to tell me everything has been passed.
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Old 09-08-2018, 09:32 PM   #1091
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ajy0903 - Sounds like you have it figured out now, but I was just going to mention that if you are worried about Windows Updates screwing up your software setup, there is an option under System Update to "pause" the updates. It won't prevent them for forever, but it buys you 25-35 days I think, without driver or system updates screwing up your install. And I'm sure there are other ways you could prevent updates as well, maybe changing your upgrade "group" to a less aggressive option, and NOT joining the preview program.

Very cool that you got this working. I'm used to using Blu-Ray burners with most of my desktop and laptop computers, so I've wondered about being able to watch UHD discs on my 27" Samsung 4K display or Alienware 17 R3 laptop's 4K screen for a LONG time now. But I don't have a system with the Intel 8th Gen chipset, which every article I've ever read INSISTS must be used to watch UHD movies (despite video cards having 8GB of RAM, I mean... can't my 1080 GTX manage such playback? Sheesh). Anyway... congrats.

Last question / comment - When I playback UHD movies from my Xbox One S, the Xbox One S is set for Atmos audio in its settings. As a result, DTS disc audio goes to my Pioneer "Atmos" soundbar and shows as Atmos... not DTS:X, etc. I'm assuming if I bought a dedicated UHD player, and I chose bitstream playback the "receiver" would get the right audio without "selecting it" in the player menus, and movies would "just work". Does anyone know if that's true? And do only some UHD players support Atmos audio?
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Old 09-08-2018, 09:43 PM   #1092
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ajy0903 - Sounds like you have it figured out now, but I was just going to mention that if you are worried about Windows Updates screwing up your software setup, there is an option under System Update to "pause" the updates. It won't prevent them for forever, but it buys you 25-35 days I think, without driver or system updates screwing up your install. And I'm sure there are other ways you could prevent updates as well, maybe changing your upgrade "group" to a less aggressive option, and NOT joining the preview program.

Very cool that you got this working. I'm used to using Blu-Ray burners with most of my desktop and laptop computers, so I've wondered about being able to watch UHD discs on my 27" Samsung 4K display or Alienware 17 R3 laptop's 4K screen for a LONG time now. But I don't have a system with the Intel 8th Gen chipset, which every article I've ever read INSISTS must be used to watch UHD movies (despite video cards having 8GB of RAM, I mean... can't my 1080 GTX manage such playback? Sheesh). Anyway... congrats.

Last question / comment - When I playback UHD movies from my Xbox One S, the Xbox One S is set for Atmos audio in its settings. As a result, DTS disc audio goes to my Pioneer "Atmos" soundbar and shows as Atmos... not DTS:X, etc. I'm assuming if I bought a dedicated UHD player, and I chose bitstream playback the "receiver" would get the right audio without "selecting it" in the player menus, and movies would "just work". Does anyone know if that's true? And do only some UHD players support Atmos audio?
Well, I think it's fine for me to leave wireless connection disconnected.

Cause I only planned to use this PC as UHD Disc playback, as I have main PC (i5-4690 with GTX 970) to do that.

And if I ever want to watch 4K Video/Youtube/etc, I would just buy another HDD/SSD, another Windows 10, install it and use that one for those purpose.

And only Intel graphics (For people with Intel Processors) you can play UHD Disc, cause BDA or some organization, or NVIDIA people didn't get permission from BDA to use their video card to use UHD Disc support. Here is link that explains this.

And for your last question, I have no idea about it myself, cause I don't own any Xbox, I only own PS4 Slim.

And one thing that I know, the soundbar have to support DTS:X in order to support playing DTX:X source, I think. If I'm wrong, someone can correct me.

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Old 09-10-2018, 01:21 AM   #1093
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35-day pause requires Win10 Professional.
Home edition doesn't have it.
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Old 09-11-2018, 06:09 AM   #1094
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35-day pause requires Win10 Professional.
Home edition doesn't have it.
Oh, ok.

Well, I just disconnected wifi, so it won't even connected to Internet.

If I ever want to use it for general purpose other then watching UHD Disc movies, I would just install another HDD/SSD, install another Windows 10 and use that to boot to use for "none UHD Movie watch" purpose, right?
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Old 09-11-2018, 04:17 PM   #1095
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Sorry, I am a newbie, why do we need to stop Windows updates?

I am using Windows 1803 Professional with CyberDVD on a Dell XPS 9570, it has a Coffee Lake CPU and 4k display + NVidia 1050 Ti. Will I be able to watch 4k Blu-rays with a compatible drive? It seems my new LG BP55EB40 cannot do this but I'm planning to buy a Pioneer from ebay just for that if my laptop supports it.
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Old 09-11-2018, 06:02 PM   #1096
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Sorry, I am a newbie, why do we need to stop Windows updates?

I am using Windows 1803 Professional with CyberDVD on a Dell XPS 9570, it has a Coffee Lake CPU and 4k display + NVidia 1050 Ti. Will I be able to watch 4k Blu-rays with a compatible drive? It seems my new LG BP55EB40 cannot do this but I'm planning to buy a Pioneer from ebay just for that if my laptop supports it.
My understanding is that the 1803 update breaks some of the Intel drivers needed for UHD Blu-ray playback. Windows 10 1709 works.

You may have a bigger problem than Windows 10, namely the NVIDIA 1050 Ti graphics. If your system uses any GPU other than the Coffee Lake processor's iGPU, then it will not be able to play commercial UHD Blu-ray discs with PowerDVD.

You should run Cyberlink UHD Blu-ray Advisor (a free download) to see where your Dell XPS 9570's fails to meet hardware requirements for UHD Blu-ray playback before buying another drive.
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Old 09-25-2018, 05:38 PM   #1097
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Wondering which of the new Z390 boards being released next week (either 01 Oct. or 08 Oct.) will have HDMI 2.0 and SGX option on board?
I'm thinking the ASRock z390 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ac is most likely and the next might be the Gigabyte Z390 AORUS Master or Z390 AORUS Xtreme or the EVGA Z390?

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Old 09-25-2018, 07:25 PM   #1098
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Wondering which of the new Z390 boards being released next week (either 01 Oct. or 08 Oct.) will have HDMI 2.0 and SGX option on board?
I'm thinking the ASRock z390 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ac is most likely and the next might be the Gigabyte Z390 AORUS Master or Z390 AORUS Xtreme.
I don't think that speculating about this will be useful and as far as I have seen, there's no published information about the HDMI video connections or SGX for any of them yet.
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Old 10-03-2018, 01:02 AM   #1099
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Since 9th Gen still use UHD630 & Z390 still doesn't integrate HDMI 2.0+, we still need to gather motherboard's information.
9th Gen CPUs can provide a good thermal condition on mini-ITX build because they are soldered.
However, besides that, they have no more benefits than 7th-8th for UHD BD playback since CPU frequency is not a problem (8400T @ 3.0-3.3GHz can run it perfectly).
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We'll start to find out next Monday the 8th hopefully. I'm looking at the EVGA, Gigabyte, and ASRock motherboards.
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