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[Show spoiler] Quick Links: Disc freezes, Should I clean my disc? Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) Picture goes wonky. Can a minimum 6' Premium Certified cable fix it? Dolby Vision Reviews by Geoff D HDR10 Reviews by Geoff D General 4K Reviews by Fourm Members This thread is intended to help those who are interested in this exciting new format to make informed decisions when purchasing discs and their equipment; be it upgrading from DVD, Blu-ray or their current 4K system. This thread is a broad overview and is focused on 4K discs. It will link to threads or posts for detail information on the displays, players, receivers, and the discs themselves. I use the term consensus as meaning the majority of the members agree with the statement. The consensus is that a 4K disc provides an upgrade to the majority of Blu-ray movies and DVDs, ranging from somewhat to WOW. That a 4K disc will show improvement over streaming content. That High Dynamic Range (HDR) is the compelling feature to upgrade to 4K. HDR allows a scene to show detail in a bright area and at the same time show detail in a darker area. HDR is on all but a few 4K discs. Also associated with 4K is Wide Color Gamut (WCG). This allows the display to show a wider range of colors. The majority of the 4K discs are graded from a 1,000 or 4,000 nit display. The metadata generated is used to determine the lighting of a scene. Your display tone maps this metadata to the capabilities of your display. The higher the nits your display can generate the less it needs to tone map. All quality HDR 4k displays can present an outstanding picture. 4K HDR delivers two types of metadata. Static, which means the entire movie, has an overall grade for light and dark. The other is dynamic, which means that each scene or even frame can be adjusted to your display as the lighting dictates. There are three current forms of HDR: 1. HDR10 is 10 bits, is the base layer for all 4K HDR discs, and is static. All 4K displays/players can play this base layer. 2. Dolby Vision (DV) is 12 bits, is an optional second layer, and is dynamic. Adjusts brightness levels on a frame-by-frame basis. Requires a DV capable display and player. 3. HDR10+ is 10 bits, is an optional second layer, and is dynamic. Adjusts brightness levels on a scene-by-scene basis. Requires a HDR10+ capable display and player. Proposed optional 4K HDR format: 1. Technicolor is 10 bits, is dynamic. Requires HDMI 2.1. Overall HDR support: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...31&postcount=7 HDR details may be found at: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=276605 and http://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-hi...lor-gamut-wcg/ Displays: There are three principle displays. LCDs, OLEDs, and Projectors. The consensus is there are no perfect displays. All have their individual strengths and weakness. Research the reviews and check the displays out yourself to determine what looks best to you. There is no wrong choice. Some of these links have a “Help me chose“ sticky. 1. LCDs: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...?daysprune=30: 2. OLEDs: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ole...anels-general/ 3. Projectors: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/68-dig.../?daysprune=30 Display Manufactures and Studio support of HDR and Automated Calibration: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...41&postcount=8 The settings you should change immediately after buying a new TV. Players: All players will play the base layer HDR10. http://www.avsforum.com/forum/149-bl.../?daysprune=30. Computers and gaming consoles are addressed in following posts. The capability to play the optional HDR layer will be shown separately: 1. Dolby Vision: LG UBK90, UP970; Oppo UDP-203*, UDP-205*; Philips BDP7302, BDP7502; Pioneer UDP-LX500*, UDP-LX800*; Sony UBP-X700* 2. HDR10+: SAMSUNG UBD-M9500 3. Technicolor: TBD 4. Dolby Vision/HDR10+: Cambridge Audio CXUHD*; Panasonic UB820 (UB824)*, UB9000*, UB9004* * Supports Dolby Vision low latency profile Help me chose a player: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/149-bl...er-thread.html Receivers: 1. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=292987 2. http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-rec.../?daysprune=30 Cables/HDMI: And don’t forget a HDMI cable with "Premium HDMI Cable" certification. It is recommended they be at least 6 feet in length. Poor performing HDMI cables can cause you a lot of frustration: Picture goes wonky. Can a minimum 6' Premium Certified cable fix it? HDMI Q&A - The One Connector World Discs (finally the reason for it all): ![]() 1. List of all released 4K discs: http://ultrahd.highdefdigest.com/rel...istorical.html 2. Reviews of all 4k discs: https://forum.blu-ray.com/forumdispl...prune=-1&f=203 3. Formal Reviews of most 4K discs: http://ultrahd.highdefdigest.com/reviews.html 4. Formal Reviews of most 4K discs: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/187-of...-disc-reviews/ 5. Announced 4K discs: http://ultrahd.highdefdigest.com/releasedates.html 6. Announced 4K discs: https://forum.blu-ray.com/forumdispl...prune=-1&f=203 7. Dolby Vision discs: List of UHDs that contain Dolby Vision 8. HDR10+ discs: List of UHDs that contain HDR10+ 9. Technicolor discs: TBD 10. Dolby Vision Reviews by Geoff D 11. HDR10 Reviews by Geoff D 12. General 4K Reviews by Fourm Members Any questions should be asked in the above linked threads, as they will enable you to get the quickest answer from the SMEs. Feel free to ask questions here if you can’t find an appropriate thread. Also your feedback is welcomed. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) may be found here:https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...62&postcount=4 Enjoy your movies. ![]() Last edited by Staying Salty; 11-15-2022 at 09:01 PM. Reason: udated links |
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Xbox One S:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=278780 http://www.avsforum.com/forum/141-xb...u-ray-hdr.html Xbox One X: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/141-xb...-x-thread.html Last edited by Staying Salty; 11-09-2017 at 02:31 AM. Reason: added Xbox X |
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https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=287599
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/26-hom...ter-computers/ I’m pretty sure there are no “Dummies” clicking these links. ![]() Last edited by Staying Salty; 07-25-2017 at 01:11 AM. Reason: added link |
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For those who are interested in Dolby Vision, your receiver must be Dolby Vision Certified to pass thru the DV signal. If it is not, your display will only show the HDR10 picture.
Receivers: Denon AVR-S730H, Denon AVR-S930H, Denon AVR-X1400H, Denon AVR-X2400H, Denon AVR-X3400H, Denon AVR-X4400H, Denon AVR-X6400H, Integra DRX-2.1, Integra DRX-3.1, Integra DTM-7, Marantz NR1508, Marantz NR1608, Marantz SR5012, Marantz SR6012, Marantz SR7012, Marantz SR8012, Onkyo TX-8270, Onkyo TX-NR575, Onkyo TX-NR676, Onkyo TX-NR777, Onkyo TX-RZ620, Onkyo TX-RZ720, Onkyo TX-RZ820, Pioneer VSX-832, Pioneer Elite VSX-LX102, Pioneer Elite VSX-LX302 Pending firmware update: Anthem MRX 520, Anthem MRX 720, Anthem MRX 1120, Denon AVR-S710W, Denon AVR-S720W, Denon AVR-S910W, Denon AVR-S920W, Denon AVR-X1200W, Denon AVR-X1300W, Denon AVR-X2200W, Denon AVR-X2300W, Denon AVR-X3200W, Denon AVR-X3300W, Denon AVR-X4200W, Denon AVR-X4300H, Denon AVR-X6200W, Denon AVR-X6300H, Denon AVR-X7200WA, Marantz NR1607, Marantz SR5010, Marantz SR5011, Marantz SR6010, Marantz SR6011, Marantz SR7010, Marantz SR7011, Onkyo TX-NR555, Onkyo TX-NR656, Onkyo TX-NR757, Onkyo TX-RZ610, Onkyo TX-RZ710, Onkyo TX-RZ810, Onkyo TX-RZ1100, Onkyo TX-RZ3100, Onkyo TX-RZ5100, Sony STR-DN1080, Sony STR-ZA810ES, Sony STR-ZA1100ES, Sony STR-ZA2100ES, Sony STR-ZA3100ES, Sony STR-ZA5000ES, Yamaha RX-V383, Yamaha RX-V483, Yamaha RX-V583, Yamaha RX-V681, Yamaha RX-V683, Yamaha RX-V781, Yamaha RX-A670, Yamaha RX-A760, Yamaha RX-A770, Yamaha RX-A860, Yamaha RX-A870, Yamaha RX-A1060, Yamaha RX-A1070, Yamaha RX-A2060, Yamaha RX-A2070, Yamaha RX-A3060, Yamaha RX-A3070 Pre-Amplifier/Processors: Marantz AV7704, McIntosh MX160 Pending firmware update: Anthem AVM 60, Marantz AV7702MKII, Marantz AV7703, Marantz AV8802A, Yamaha CX-A5100 |
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There were some test channels on satellite Astra 19.2 (Europe) both for HLG and Technicolor HDR. Both of them made my Samsung TV switch to HDR mode. (The channels are not available at the moment, but there is another one that probably uses HLG. But the TV's info bar just says "HDR" so I don't know.)
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So your settings (backlight, contrast) automatically max out when viewing that channel? Interesting. What firmware are you on, by the way? Last edited by HeatEquation; 08-16-2017 at 12:35 AM. |
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Question: Are 4K discs region locked as most Blu-ray discs are?
Answer: There is no region locking of 4k discs. Last edited by Staying Salty; 11-14-2017 at 05:16 AM. |
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