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Old 07-21-2017, 10:37 PM   #1
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Exclamation List of 4K UHDs which use BD100

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Old 07-21-2017, 10:40 PM   #2
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Old 07-21-2017, 10:54 PM   #3
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Old 07-21-2017, 10:58 PM   #4
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Can't you just list these as digital intermediates instead of having to refer to something as "fake 4K."

UHDs like 'Sicario' and 'John Wick 2' aren't "real 4K", yet still look better than the discs you've listed under that umbrella.
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We have a "real 4k" thread here: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=270798
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Old 07-22-2017, 12:06 AM   #6
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Can't you just list these as digital intermediates instead of having to refer to something as "fake 4K."

UHDs like 'Sicario' and 'John Wick 2' aren't "real 4K", yet still look better than the discs you've listed under that umbrella.
This thread isn't about how a particular title looks at all. It's about source resolution for the category it falls under and if said title is on a triple layered BD100 for UHDs. Should it be regarded similarly of how a particular isolated score sounds? Of course it'll sound better in lossless or uncompressed and such. I'm not making a list of UHDs on BD66 since it'd be utterly massive.

Real 4K = titles with a 4K DI or greater and Fake 4K = titles with a 2K DI.
Is the UHD title a BD100? If yes it goes here and slotted in the appropriate category.
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We have a "real 4k" thread here: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=270798
These are strictly a list of UHDs which are BD100 in disc size. Only listing the source resolution to see just how many are alotted. Just imagine a random pie-chart in yer noggin' with differing colors for the whole.
It's how I'm doing it. Guess not a ton of titles are taking advantage of the disc size. Still wondering if there'll be even greater disc capacities as I've already mentioned for multiple other titles which have yuge running times. Of course Cleopatra (1963), The Lord of the Rings Trilogy: Extended Editions, etc. Why should a movie with a long running time be given a BD66?
I'm making this thread because I really want to see there is neat data. Reminds me of a site I used often, bluraydiscstats?, which broke down BDs using MPEG2, VC-1, AVC, MVC along with other data.
Just the facts and sorting it by inherent source resolution. I'm just wondering if these titles even use the full disc capacity. I know multiple BD50's I own certainly don't. Needs to be a UHDInfo, TBQH.


This is fun to me. Maybe going to break it down over total amount of titles of BD100's then by which category they fall under. This can be confusing and I'm abandoning the other thread I made in this sub-forum.

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Old 07-22-2017, 02:07 AM   #7
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I think Pacific Rim is a BD100 disc.
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Don't know how useful this really outside of the novelty factor (I'm all for letting discs breathe, but certainly a BD100 doesn't guarantee great picture any more then 66 guarantees a bad one) but it's better then your other thread at least.

That all being said Crouching tiger hidden Dragon is a bd100.
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Don't know how useful this really outside of the novelty factor (I'm all for letting discs breathe, but certainly a BD100 doesn't guarantee great picture any more then 66 guarantees a bad one) but it's better then your other thread at least.

That all being said Crouching tiger hidden Dragon is a bd100.
Already in the first post.
More novelty than anything, TBH. Figured many collectors might be interested in this, regardless of source resolution.
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Old 07-22-2017, 04:29 AM   #11
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Most of missed it, sorry about that. Can't think of any others right now then.
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What an absolutely pointless crusade. Hiding your 'fake' 4K nonsense behind yet another pointless list thread.
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I'll be damned. You're back!
And with a list worth maintaining. Well...almost anyway.

Not sure why you want to separate "Real" and "Fake" 4K.
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Not sure why you want to separate "Real" and "Fake" 4K.
It’s pretty transparent it’s just his previous thread but hiding behind the BD-100 title lol. Or else the categories would be titled by disc size instead of “Real” and “Fake” which has nothing to do with disc size.
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Old 07-22-2017, 08:40 AM   #15
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Yeah, it's just Ray-Ray's anti-2K crusade in a different form, but I'll play along. I had no idea that HBP was a triple layer (just checked mine, it is) so I've learned something today.

Gatsby, Deepwater Horizon and Hacksaw Ridge are all triple layered.
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I'll be damned. You're back!
And with a list worth maintaining. Well...almost anyway.

Not sure why you want to separate "Real" and "Fake" 4K.
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It’s pretty transparent it’s just his previous thread but hiding behind the BD-100 title lol. Or else the categories would be titled by disc size instead of “Real” and “Fake” which has nothing to do with disc size.
Looking at all this by the numbers. X amount of Fake and X amout of Real for a Total. If there's more of one over the other. I dunno.
Glad it's not a each title narrowed down by how many BD100s it has.
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Yeah, it's just Ray-Ray's anti-2K crusade in a different form, but I'll play along. I had no idea that HBP was a triple layer (just checked mine, it is) so I've learned something today.

Gatsby, Deepwater Horizon and Hacksaw Ridge are all triple layered.
Not really a vehement crusade anymore. Just knowing what I want to get really wanting to end the discussion about it. Yes I'm categorizing by inherent source resolution for ratios along with shits and giggles.
I'll add those three later. Just going by what I own and for many of these I'm going to need confirmation. Mainly because E.T. in the info says BD100 but on the reverse of the cover it states BD66 for the UHD. Obviously The Bridge on the River Kwai is gonna be a BD100 due to its running time.
Really wondering if there's gonna be a quadruple layered released for UHD, if it's in the specifications, or is BD100 where it stops?

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I was wondering why a thread like this didn't exist yet.
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Ray: there isn't a quad-layer disc in the UHD Blu spec. The format has used the same kind of structure as recordable BD-XL thus far (3x 33.4GB layers = 100GB) which also has a quadruple decker 128GB disc (the fourth layer isn't also 33.4GB because it would be too thick to meet BD spec) but AFAIK it was never seriously considered by the BDA for adoption as part of a mass-replication format because the yields would be much too low and the disc far too expensive. Heck, it cost several million dollars just to bring the triple layer production lines online.
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Ray: there isn't a quad-layer disc in the UHD Blu spec. The format has used the same kind of structure as recordable BD-XL thus far (3x 33.4GB layers = 100GB) which also has a quadruple decker 128GB disc (the fourth layer isn't also 33.4GB because it would be too thick to meet BD spec) but AFAIK it was never seriously considered by the BDA for adoption as part of a mass-replication format because the yields would be much too low and the disc far too expensive. Heck, it cost several million dollars just to bring the triple layer production lines online.
Well damn. Was really hoping when Lawrence of Arabia and even Cleopatra future release onto UHD they'd use a 128GB disc. If it means the movies will be spread over a BD100 and then a BD66 or two BD100s then it'd be fine. Part 1 on first disc & 2 on second disc sorta deal to maintain quality similar to what many BD releases are already doing.
Even Westworld is on three BD100s but it's a TV show and not a feature film. Guess even possible releases for Ben-Hur, The Ten Commandments, Hamlet, Dances with Wolves (Extended Cut), and multiple other features with very long running times should be split on UHD, as I mentioned. Even with HEVC/H265 being a vastly improved codec.

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