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Old 09-14-2018, 09:36 PM   #1
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Arrow 3D Blu-ray audio [including Dolby Atmos & DTS:X soundtrack list for 3D Blu-rays]

Apologies if this thread already exists but I couldn’t see one. If there is one, kill this thread...and me.

If anyone wants to tidy up and/or take over this thread I’m sure 13thman can do some Mod Magic (I’m more of a reader than a poster in this forum).

Here is a list of 3D Blu Rays where an object-based soundtrack is available in another format (UHD or Regular Blu Ray).

This may be a useful list for those who like to (legally) backup their discs and remux the soundtracks. I've linked those movies to the reviews where the Object-based soundtrack describes discrete use of the height channels or significantly improves upon the soundtrack available on the 3D Blu Ray and I've highlighted those movies which were deemed by the critics to be 'Must See' or had a >4/5 review for Audio & 3D on this site.

For the record, I generally used the UK release as my starting point for searching. Sources: 1 2 3

What movies have I missed?

Blu Rays
[Show spoiler]Aquaman
Blade Runner 2049 (US/Can version only)
Capture the Flag (UK version for English track; Spanish track available on Spanish 3D edition)
Fantastic Beasts And Where To Find Them/Crimes of Grindlewald
Godzilla King of the Monsters
Gravity (Diamond Luxe Edition - US/Can/Ger/Mex)
Justice League
King Arthur Legend of the Sword
Kong Skull Island
Lego Batman
Lego Ninjago
The Meg
Pixels
Rampage
Ready Player One
Shazam!
Step Up 5: All In
Tomb Raider
Wonder Woman


UHD
[Show spoiler]
Aladdin (2019)
Alita
The Amazing Spider-Man/2
The Angry Birds Movie / 2
Ant-man and the Wasp
Assassin's Creed
Avengers Assemble/Age Of Ultron/Infinity War
Ant-Man
Big Hero 6
Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk
Black Panther
The Boss Baby
Brave
Cars / 2 / 3
Captain America/2/3
Captain Marvel
Coco
Conan The Barbarian
Despicable Me/2
Doctor Strange
Dredd
Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows Part 1/Part 2
How To Train Your Dragon/2/Hidden World
Ice Age: Collision Course
Incredibles 2
Independence Day Resurgence
Inside Out
Ironman/2/3
Jumanji Welcome to the Jungle
The Jungle Book (2016)
Jurassic Park
Jurassic World
The Legend of Hercules
The Lego Movie 2
The Lion King (1994)
The Lion King (2019)
Maleficent
Man of Steel
The Martian (Atmos present on the theatrical cut of the 'Extended Edition' release)
Men In Black 3
Miss Peregrine’s home of peculiar children
Moana
Pacific Rim
Passengers
The Peanuts Movie
Pirates of the Caribbean Salazar's revenge
Pokemon: Detective Pikachu[/COLOR]
Ralph Breaks The Internet (3D Version available from Japan)
Resident Evil Afterlife/Final Chapter
Shazam!
The Smurfs/2/Lost village
Solo
Spider-man Far From Home
Spider-Man Homecoming
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Star Trek Into Darkness
Star Wars 8
Tangled
Thor/2Ragnarok
Toy Story / 2 / 3 / 4
Transformers 3: Dark Of The Moon
Underworld blood wars
Venom
War For The Planet Of The Apes
Wreck It Ralph
X-Men Apocalypse
Zootopia


3D Blu Rays where an Object-based Soundtrack is present
[Show spoiler]
Abominable
Attraction (German 3D version available)
Batman v Superman Dawn of Justice
The BFG
Call of Heroes (US and China)
Clever & Smart (Spain only)
Despicable Me 3
Doctor Who: Dark Water/Death in Heaven (US only)
Dr. Seuss' The Grinch
Enchanted Kingdom
Everest
Ghost in the Shell
Gods of Egypt
Goosebumps (US Version)
The Great Wall
The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1 (German Release) / Part 2
The Huntsman: Winter's War
IMAX: Dream Big: Engineering Our World
IMAX: National Parks Adventure
Insurgent
In the Heart of the Sea
Journey to the West: The Demons Strike Back
Jupiter Ascending
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
Kraftwerk: The Catalogue
The Legend of Tarzan
Lichtmond 4: The Journey
Mad Max: Fury Road
Metallica: Through the Never
Minions
The Monkey King 2 / 3 (China Only)
Mortal Engines
The Mummy
Pacific Rim Uprising
Pan
The Secret Life of Pets
San Andreas
Sing
Skyscraper
Snow Girl and the Dark Crystal (China Only)
Star Trek Beyond
Suicide Squad
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles/2: Out of the Shadows
Terminator Genisys
The Thousand Faces of Dunjia (China Only)
Transformers 4: Age of Extinction/5: The Last Knight
Valerian and the City of A Thousand Planets
Warcraft: The Beginning
Why Did I Not Eat My Father (France only)
xXx: Return of Xander Cage


Wishlist (where an Object-based soundtrack was mixed for the theatrical release but is not available in any home format)
[Show spoiler]
The Book of Life
Dawn of the Planet of the Apes
Edge of Tomorrow
Exodus
Godzilla
The Good Dinosaur
The Hobbit /2 /3
I, Frankenstein
Iceman
Kingsman 2
Kubo and the Two Strings
Life of Pi
Monsters University
Mr Go (China only)
Mr Peabody & Sherman
Oz: The Great and Powerful
The Penguins of Madegascar
Prometheus
Planes
Rio 2
Rise of the Guardians
Rogue One
Star Wars 7
Transcendence (France only)
Turbo
X-Men: Days of Future Past
The Wolverine
Young Detective Dee: Rise of the Sea Dragon

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Old 09-14-2018, 11:29 PM   #2
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Just for complete coverage, maybe a list of 3D BD that has object based audio. It would be a very short list.
The Mummy, Gods of Egypt (dts:x), Secret Life of Pets, Ghost in the Shell, San Andreas and....?
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Old 09-14-2018, 11:34 PM   #3
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Goosebumps is another example, 5.1 on the 3D Blu and Atmos on the 2D
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Old 09-14-2018, 11:37 PM   #4
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Just for complete coverage, maybe a list of 3D BD that has object based audio. It would be a very short list.
The Mummy, Gods of Egypt (dts:x), Secret Life of Pets, Ghost in the Shell, San Andreas and....?
There are plenty of other ones, Transformers 4 and 5, Everest, Batman v Superman, the new Ninja Turtles films, Pacific Rim Uprising, Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (which comes out this week). And there are others, but just ones I know off the top of my head.
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Fortunately, the vast majority of movies in this category don’t benefit very much from the objects based mix. In fact, many times the bass response in the non-Atmos mix is superior. Add-in the fact that objects based receivers can upmix to approximate a native objects based mix, and I don’t think you’re missing much.

In fact there are only a handful where the objects based mixes are vastly superior (i.e. BR2049, Gravity, & RPO). And for those rare cases....they invented muxing!
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Just for complete coverage, maybe a list of 3D BD that has object based audio. It would be a very short list.
The Mummy, Gods of Egypt (dts:x), Secret Life of Pets, Ghost in the Shell, San Andreas and....?
Here is a list of 39 3D Blu-rays released with Atmos or DTS:X (excludes foreign language films and IMAX documentaries):

Batman v Superman Dawn of Justice
The BFG
Despicable Me 3
Enchanted Kingdom (BBC Earth)
Everest
Ghost in the Shell
Gods of Egypt
Goosebumps
The Great Wall
The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1
The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 2
The Huntsman: Winter's War
Insurgent
In the Heart of the Sea
Jupiter Ascending
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
King Arthur Legend of the Sword
Kraftwerk: The Catalogue
The Legend of Tarzan
Lichtmond 4: The Journey
Mad Max: Fury Road
Metallica: Through the Never
Minions
The Mummy
Pacific Rim Uprising
Pan
Pixels
The Secret Life of Pets
San Andreas
Sing
Star Trek Beyond
Suicide Squad
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: Out of the Shadows
Terminator Genisys
Transformers 4: Age of Extinction
Transformers 5: The Last Knight
Warcraft: The Beginning
xXx: Return of Xander Cage
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Here is a list of 3D Blu Rays where an object-based soundtrack is available in another format...

What does "object-based" mean?
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Essentially DTS:X, Dolby Atmos or Auro.

The difference is that when a movie is mixed nowadays individual elements (objects) of sounds can be ‘placed’ in the theatre and the software translates that to what sounds need to come from which channel. It also means that the engineer only has to create one mix rather than a mix for 2.0, 5.1, 7.1 etc.

In addition, object-based soundtracks have height channels (speakers above the viewer).

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I’m still to find a Blu-ray (3D preferably) with auro 3D.
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Here is a list of 39 3D Blu-rays released with Atmos or DTS:X (excludes foreign language films and IMAX documentaries):

Batman v Superman Dawn of Justice
The BFG
Despicable Me 3
Enchanted Kingdom (BBC Earth)
Everest
Ghost in the Shell
Gods of Egypt
Goosebumps
The Great Wall
The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1
The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 2
The Huntsman: Winter's War
Insurgent
In the Heart of the Sea
Jupiter Ascending
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
King Arthur Legend of the Sword
Kraftwerk: The Catalogue
The Legend of Tarzan
Lichtmond 4: The Journey
Mad Max: Fury Road
Metallica: Through the Never
Minions
The Mummy
Pacific Rim Uprising
Pan
Pixels
The Secret Life of Pets
San Andreas
Sing
Star Trek Beyond
Suicide Squad
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: Out of the Shadows
Terminator Genisys
Transformers 4: Age of Extinction
Transformers 5: The Last Knight
Warcraft: The Beginning
xXx: Return of Xander Cage
Pixels 3D is 5.1 not ATMOS.
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King Arthur is also only 5.1 on the 3D disc, though the Warner Home Video opening on it is in Atmos. The 2D disc is in Atmos.
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Pixels 3D is 5.1 not ATMOS.
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King Arthur is also only 5.1 on the 3D disc, though the Warner Home Video opening on it is in Atmos. The 2D disc is in Atmos.
I stand corrected on both of these.

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Read the audio portion of the review, he mentions the 2D disc having Atmos and 3D having 5.1. At least both are included in the same set (when Atmos is 4K exclusive, one has to make two purchases to get both that sound mix and 3D)
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Question for you re-muxers, are you putting them on disc, or hard drive or ?
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All of the above! It depends what you have to play them back on. Burning to Blu Ray obviously carries an additional cost but playing from USB or network share will depend on you having the right hardware (player, decent/wired network).
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I know it's not highlighted green, but I thought The Great Wall had good effects in both 3D and Atmos that it would be among the top of my list if you're watching a movie for both.
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Fair enough! Thanks for highlighting that movie.

The Atmos soundtrack sounds like it really makes use of the height channels. I’ve not highlighted green as there is no 3D review of that movie on this site. It’s all subjective, just trying to have a consistent rule.
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I've added The Lion King (1994) and How To Train Your Dragon/2 to the list.
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@Straxrule - Gravity does not do panned dialog correctly. It SHIFTS suddenly at certain points from center to side and does the panning better off-screen than on. It's what I'd call a "partial" pan (lots of movies shift the voices once off-screen or at the edges, but don't pan across the screen).

If you want a TRUE panned dialog movie, watch something like Toy Story 1-3. They do PERFECT panning (and do some great stuff for 6.1 in the second movie).
Interesting. Thanks. Are you able to give examples (timestamps) of when the panning on Gravity is not what you'd want/hope for?
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Dolby Surround creates singular overheads (i.e. front, middle and back speakers on the left all have the SAME signal and the same for the right height speakers) with very little content moved to them. Neural X does a MUCH better job and creates individual channels in overhead. I have 6 overhead speakers so I definitely want a good overhead mix.

Dolby Surround and Neural X are competing upmixers (Auro-3D has one called "Auromatic" as well on some Denon and Marantz receivers. It has both 2D (bed only) and 3D (bed and heights) modes. Which one sounds best is, of course somewhat subjective, but if you want more than crickets in your ceiling speakers, both Auro-matic and Neural X do a better job. Neural X in particular is very aggressive and puts height information where it belongs.

In short, I always choose Neural X for movies. I use either Auro-matic or Multi-channel stereo if I want to expand music beyond two channels. I avoid DSU (Dolby Surround Upmixer) like the plague.

The sad thing is that Dolby wants to force companies to not allow these other two upmixers to be used with any kind of a Dolby signal. That is horse manure as anything less than an Atmos mix is universal (5.1, 6.1, 7.1 and less) and the carrier (Dolby TrueHD or DTS Master Audio or even straight PCM in some cases) doesn't matter one bit. Fortunately, I have yet to see a receiver maker obey these rules (save for DTS Virtual X which simulates height speakers and won't work with a Dolby bitstream signal) and it doesn't apply to PCM audio (i.e. if your player decodes to PCM first as many have the option to do) it will work with any upmixer (including Virtual X) regardless.
Again, interesting. Are you able to give some specific examples of Neural X vs DS?

Personally, for me, I am less interested in what Atmos/DTS:X/overhead channels do for panning. Where I feel the overheads really pay off is when the Score is mixed to use the overheads (splitting the instruments in the same way that an aggressive stereo mix does). I noticed it quite a bit when I watched The Haunting of Hill House on Netflix.
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