The Street Fighter Collection (Sonny Chiba) - February 19, 2019

[Rick Grimes]

Great to here they have given the Streetfighter films filmic transfers and the caps show a nice helping of grain, as it should have.
Will definitely watch the Japanese audio with English subs for the first viewing and on a repeat viewing, will watch the English dub.

The English dub sounds like a larf, from what I’ve heard of it on viewing True Romance.
Will be interesting to see how much is lost in translation with the SF English dub.

Only other Japanese film I have as a frame of reference for how poor a dub is Akira.
I owned the original English dubbed VHS up until I bought the BD. Due to viewing Akira many times, I was very familiar with the original English dub.
Was quite surprised to how different the actual dialogue was when watching the Japanese audio when reading the subs. There were quite a few liberties taken with the English dub.

I did 3 years of Japanese in high school, so I can usually pick up 10-15% of the dialogue in Japanese films (“tourist” level Japanese is what I call my rudimentary understanding of the language).
So when I watched Spirited Away recently, I sometimes catch some bad subtitling (eg. The father shouting “Sumimasen!” at an unattended restaurant was subtitled with an “Anyone there?” when the literal translation is “Excuse me”), I hope they have used a seasoned translator for the Streetfighter Collection.

[FlyBry]

Found a review with lotsa screengrabs!

http://www.rockshockpop.com/forums/c...Blu-ray-Review

This set can't get into my hands fast enough!!

[hanshotfirst1138]

Is this on Amazon? Can I finally retire my PAL trilogy set?

[ltb2.0]

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138

Is this on Amazon? Can I finally retire my PAL trilogy set?

..... I should get sarcastic, but here, I'll do all the work of going to Amazon's website, typing in the title of the set and copying the link for you.

[drat]

Originally Posted by ltb2.0

..... I should get sarcastic, but here, I'll do all the work of going to Amazon's website, typing in the title of the set and copying the link for you.

Could you do the same for me? Thanks in advance.

[El_Fez]

My typing finger is sore. Can you hook me up with a link too? Thank you kindly!

[OldPangYau]

Originally Posted by FlyBry

Found a review with lotsa screengrabs!

http://www.rockshockpop.com/forums/c...Blu-ray-Review

This set can't get into my hands fast enough!!

A bit unfortunate that The Street Fighter's Last Revenge had to resort to SD inserts for the unrated footage in the Japanese cut, but this is still easily the best release of these films out there. Until Arrow scoops up UK rights and does new scans of the Japanese cuts from scratch, I can't see these getting a better release.

[Takuma]

Originally Posted by OldPangYau

Until Arrow scoops up UK rights and does new scans of the Japanese cuts from scratch

They don't need to. They can just use Toei's existing HD scans...

Well, for the third film at least since it has been streaming in HD for years.

The last time Toei Channel showed Return it was also marked HD. I don't know if it was new or old scan, but the Toei DVD from a decade ago was excellent so might not matter.

The first film I don't recall seeing broadcast / streamed in HD anywere. And Toei's DVD was really soft so that source wouldn't suffice for BD I guess...

[OldPangYau]

Originally Posted by Takuma

They don't need to. They can just use Toei's existing HD scans...

Well, for the third film at least since it has been streaming in HD for years.

The last time Toei Channel showed Return it was also marked HD. I don't know if it was new or old scan, but the Toei DVD from a decade ago was excellent so might not matter.

The first film I don't recall seeing broadcast / streamed in HD anywere. And Toei's DVD was really soft so that source wouldn't suffice for BD I guess...

The sad irony is that it's the third film, Revenge, that uses SD inserts . Granted, it's everyone's least favorite of the trilogy, but still. Also not sure why Return needed a second (thankfully HD) source since New Line had an unrated version (which looks consistent from start to finish) when they made the laserdisc 20+ years ago.

[DukeTogo84]

Was going to order this from Amazon, but it says they don't know when it will be delivered, so I didn't pre-order. Normally with Shout! and Amazon, it normally says it will be delivered on day of release.

[mogwai_macabre]

diabolikdvd marked as shipped

[sonny gaunt]

I am so looking forward to this release. As a fan of the first film, I could never tell if the film was legitimate or a parody. Chiba's facial expressions do not verge on comedic-they are De Niro over the top ham fests to the Nth degree! Chiba's smelling his fingers, then wiping them on the eye gouged victim, seems a nod to Chaing's(two years earlier) Legend of the 7 Golden Vampires, the castration(testicle removal actually), and the forever memorable "Street Fighter Dummy" scene make this a cult classic above the bar!

[gates70]

Originally Posted by ltb2.0

..... I should get sarcastic, but here, I'll do all the work of going to Amazon's website, typing in the title of the set and copying the link for you.

Can you order it and ship to me please? Thanks.

[crikan]

Originally Posted by ltb2.0

..... I should get sarcastic, but here, I'll do all the work of going to Amazon's website, typing in the title of the set and copying the link for you.

How much does it cost?

[joekun]

Originally Posted by Rick Grimes

So when I watched Spirited Away recently, I sometimes catch some bad subtitling (eg. The father shouting “Sumimasen!” at an unattended restaurant was subtitled with an “Anyone there?” when the literal translation is “Excuse me”), I hope they have used a seasoned translator for the Streetfighter Collection.

That actually isn’t a bad translation. Translation takes into account cultural differences, and in this case if Chihiro’s father were speaking English he likely would have said, “anyone there.” Just like how “hai” in certain situations means “no.” Although “excuse me” wouldn’t be a bad translation, given his character I think “anyone there” is more appropriate. Just my two cents.

[ROSS.T.G.]

Checked my order on Amazon.ca and it’s now saying currently unavailable. Amazon.ca is really hitting rock bottom lately. Of course it happens to my most anticipated BD release of the year.

[DukeTogo84]

Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

Checked my order on Amazon.ca and it’s now saying currently unavailable. Amazon.ca is really hitting rock bottom lately. Of course it happens to my most anticipated BD release of the year.

Yeah, my Amazon order currently says they don't have any information as to when I will get my pre-order in. Close to cancelling it, and just ordering from Diabolik.

[Rick Grimes]

Originally Posted by joekun

That actually isn’t a bad translation. Translation takes into account cultural differences, and in this case if Chihiro’s father were speaking English he likely would have said, “anyone there.” Just like how “hai” in certain situations means “no.” Although “excuse me” wouldn’t be a bad translation, given his character I think “anyone there” is more appropriate. Just my two cents.

I see your point, but in this case, I really don’t think it should have been changed. When crying out “Sumimasen?” IMHO, it felt like the father really was exclaiming “Excuse me?” like you would in that situation (about to pig out on food at an unattended restaurant). The literal translation would have been a lot more appropriate, especially since I also know that ”Dareka imasu ka?” is how you would say “Is anyone there?” in Japanese.

There was also another situation where “Eh” was used, which is more akin culturally to “Huh?” or “What?” but something else was used. I have to go back and check, but it is really interesting to also note differences in the UK and Aussie translations.
Translations for subtitles are not a perfect science. But I have often found dubs are worse, especially with Akira, where often, very different things are spoken.

All in all, it can be frustrating knowing a bit of a language and reading the subtitles. As an extreme example of this phenomenon, my Dutch friend who can speak German has trouble enjoying those You Tube clips of Hitler rant parodies from the German film Downfall, where the translation slams the Prequels, reacts to Trump winning the US election and other various pop culture references. My friend says he just can’t get into it because he is understanding the words and trying to read the “false” subtitling set-up for comedic purposes... It just doesn’t work.

https://m.youtube.com/user/hitlerrantsparodies

Kind of what happens when I read English subs for Japanese audio and there have been some liberties taken with changing the translation, sometimes for better, but often for worse.

I hope the Shout Factory subtitles, while obviously needing to consider culturally appropriate translations, also does consider that quite often, the literal translation does not need to be modified.

[GoodAsBlu]

Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

Checked my order on Amazon.ca and it’s now saying currently unavailable. Amazon.ca is really hitting rock bottom lately. Of course it happens to my most anticipated BD release of the year.

Yeah, this has been happening with almost every new release that is not from a major studio. I was given about 5 different stories about Sister Street Fighter (which Amazon still does not have in stock) as to why they haven't/didn't have stock. It's gotten really bad the past 3-4 months with no, or unavailable stock, on many different films and distributors.

[ROSS.T.G.]

Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

Yeah, my Amazon order currently says they don't have any information as to when I will get my pre-order in. Close to cancelling it, and just ordering from Diabolik.

Originally Posted by GoodAsBlu

Yeah, this has been happening with almost every new release that is not from a major studio. I was given about 5 different stories about Sister Street Fighter (which Amazon still does not have in stock) as to why they haven't/didn't have stock. It's gotten really bad the past 3-4 months with no, or unavailable stock, on many different films and distributors.

I’ve really lost love for them. I ordered it back in December. I wonder if it’s an issue with SF. I know I’ve run into it before with SF and Amazon.

This better come in next week.