La Piscine 4K UHD (1969) - Blu-ray Forum

goathead1 · 07-11-2019, 12:05 AM

Release Date: Oct 16, 2019
Country: France

Discs
Blu-ray Disc
Three-disc set (1 BD-66, 1 BD-50, 1 DVD)
DVD copy
4K Ultra HD

Bonus content:
English version of the film (114 min.)
Spanish alternate ending (15 min.)
"La Piscine" by Jean-Claude Carrière (27 min.)
Vintage interview - the reunion of Romy Schneider and Alain Delon (1968)
production notes
theatrical trailer

Alain Delon is coming to 4K!

Dubliner1 · 08-10-2019, 01:32 AM

Just read online Alain Delon suffered a stroke and a small brain haemorrhage several weeks ago but seems to be recovering. Get well soon.

Lusitania01 · 09-12-2019, 12:46 PM

I see this now available for pre-order on Amazon.fr Wonder if there's English subs on the 120 minute version? Even if not, it means a UK/US release might not be too far off with a 4k UHD scan now available.

On my list of 4k UHDs to die for.

Could this be the first Criterion 4k release?

bytor · 10-15-2019, 12:43 AM

Going by the Amazon page it doesn't look like there are English subs. I've never seen this movie, is the French audio the definitive version? Or is the English audio good enough that it might be worth it if there are no English subs for the French audio?

goathead1 · 10-15-2019, 05:27 AM

No, the movie was filmed in both languages as they shot it. There are a few French films that did this in the 60s and 70s to target the international English market, they are not dubs but two versions of the same movie filmed at the same time.

some examples:
The Sicilian Clan (1969) English/French versions both on Blu-ray
The Brain (1969) English version only on VHS / French version on Blu-ray
Rider On The Rain (1970) English/French versions both on Blu-ray
The Burglars (1971) English/French versions both on Blu-ray

Pecker · 10-15-2019, 05:12 PM

Can’t we get Ozon’s Swimming Pool on regular Blu-ray Disc? I’m

bytor · 10-15-2019, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goathead1

No, the movie was filmed in both languages as they shot it. There are a few French films that did this in the 60s and 70s to target the international English market, they are not dubs but two versions of the same movie filmed at the same time.

Yes, but I imagine the French audio is better as it's the actor's native language? Or is the English audio just as good? I don't want to waste my money if the French audio is a lot better but has no English subtitles.

sminister · 10-27-2019, 01:45 AM

Did anyone get this yet? Comments on quality?
Mine shipped from France but it’ll be at least a week before it gets here in the US.

RDA · 10-29-2019, 08:41 PM

I received my copy although I'm not going to be hugely helpful as I don't own a UHD player yet so can't comment on the contents of that disc. However, the digibook package is seriously cool. The blu-ray contains both the French and English versions of the film, roughly taking about 20GB of space each with the French version the slightly bigger of the two. Both 24fps. Not watched yet but skipped through quickly and the PQ looks better than the previous Park Circus / M6 blu-rays to my eyes. DVD is 25fps and contains the French version only and a couple of special features. No English subtitles on the blu-ray or DVD. According to the back cover, the UHD probably only contains the French version and the special features and is not English friendly, but someone else will hopefully confirm this.

sminister · 11-04-2019, 06:11 PM

Received my copy.
No English subs or audio on the 4K disc.
4K image is really nice. Thick grain. Colors are sharp and bright.
Will watch the Blu-ray though as I’ve been meaning to see this for years.

goathead1 · 11-17-2019, 09:14 PM

How does the English version on the blu-ray compare to the previous release? Is it the same transfer or does it look a little better?

castor · 11-18-2019, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bytor

Yes, but I imagine the French audio is better as it's the actor's native language? Or is the English audio just as good? I don't want to waste my money if the French audio is a lot better but has no English subtitles.

In Svet's review of the French La Piscine BD he says "The French track is the preferable one - the actors sound a lot more convincing when they speak their lines in French."
I just received the region free Spanish La Piscina BD yesterday and watched it today. It looks and sounds excellent to me. It has English subs.

Pieter V · 01-03-2020, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Disc Size: 77,461,581,828 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD
BDInfo: 0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00005.MPLS
Length: 2:03:02.833 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 66,541,861,248 bytes
Total Bitrate: 72.10 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
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* MPEG-H HEVC Video 3129 kbps 1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio French 1776 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1776 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS Audio French 768 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics French 20.116 kbps

FILES:

Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
---- ------- ------ ---- -------------
00014.M2TS 0:00:00.000 2:03:02.833 66,541,861,248 72,104

PowellPressburger · 02-28-2020, 10:14 AM

A few poor quality and overly sharpened cell phone pics, believe me the image quality is great in motion on the disc and again these are cell phone pics so they look a bit off.

Showing I was able to apply .srt subtitle files by USB for the 4K UHD disc and get English subtitles.

As others have noted on the Parasite thread it only works on OPPPO and Cambridge players which are both no longer manufactured and prices are redic.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...=319109&page=6

Subtitle Option without the USB inserted into player.
1.jpg

Once USB is inserted and you press subtitle button you now get the final option of OTHER - That is the USB
2.jpg

English Subtitles
3.jpg

Subtitle options changed color - You can change to multiple colors and borders, alter size and position.
4.jpg

sminister · 03-05-2020, 04:50 AM

Thanks for the information. I have a 203 and followed those instructions and it worked perfectly. Finally watching this for the first time.

andreasy969 · 08-04-2020, 09:34 PM

I couldn't resist at the current price and saw no better future option anyway, so I grabbed this now. My French should do with the French subs with this one, but I intend to save it all to disk once the drives become larger anyway...

The only issue I noticed so far, is the chroma not being perfect and I noticed it in motion already (#9 is one of the more prominent examples - you'll notice it with the hair here in particular), but other than that, this looks great. I also noticed the pngs being very large.

Didn't compare and don't intend to compare with the BD. The HDR is the opposite of Sony kind (i.e. not very bright).

jacnorectangle · 08-22-2020, 11:01 PM

I've ordered the 4k disc TWICE from Amazon UK, both of them freeze up in the middle of the movie. The first seller was Culture Empire, the second was Amazon Eu Sarl, but they both have the same address so I think they're both from the same source. They were both brand new, unopened. On the 4k disc I see a little line that won't go away when I rub it. The bluray disc has a smudge on it, though it plays fine. I returned the first one, but the shipping from the US back to France is so expensive, I'm just going to keep the second one I bought. I did see one review on Amazon that said their disc froze. It's a shame because the 4k looks so gorgeous. I'm thinking about buying it a third time from a seller on ebay. Haven't had this problem since the days of DVD.

barrett75 · 08-24-2020, 09:36 PM

same problem here, disc froze at around 53/57 minute mark. using panny ub9000... don't know if it's a disc issue or a player one...

andreasy969 · 08-25-2020, 05:50 AM

Saw this only now...

Reproducible freeze (as in stops playing completely) at 54:01 here as well (plays fine if I navigate to a few seconds after that). Will check via Panasonic (didn't watch the movie yet) later and would expect it to "just" freeze there instead (which would suck already).

Guess it's a general problem with the disc.

Joce · 08-25-2020, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andreasy969

Saw this only now...

Reproducible freeze (as in stops playing completely) at 54:01 here as well (plays fine if I navigate to a few seconds after that). Will check via Panasonic (didn't watch the movie yet) later and would expect it to "just" freeze there instead (which would suck already).

Guess it's a general problem with the disc.

I had exactly the same problem...

07-11-2019, 12:05 AM	#1
goathead1 Senior Member Member since:May 2013 Location:a state of decay Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:145	La Piscine 4K UHD (1969) Release Date: Oct 16, 2019 Country: France Discs Blu-ray Disc Three-disc set (1 BD-66, 1 BD-50, 1 DVD) DVD copy 4K Ultra HD Bonus content: English version of the film (114 min.) Spanish alternate ending (15 min.) "La Piscine" by Jean-Claude Carrière (27 min.) Vintage interview - the reunion of Romy Schneider and Alain Delon (1968) production notes theatrical trailer Alain Delon is coming to 4K!

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08-10-2019, 01:32 AM	#2
Dubliner1 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Apr 2010 Location:Spain Home Theater Gallery:11 4K collection:236 Blu-ray collection:460 DVD collection:5 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:18	Just read online Alain Delon suffered a stroke and a small brain haemorrhage several weeks ago but seems to be recovering. Get well soon.

09-12-2019, 12:46 PM	#3
Lusitania01 Junior Member Member since:Apr 2019 Location:UK Blu-ray reviews:3	I see this now available for pre-order on Amazon.fr Wonder if there's English subs on the 120 minute version? Even if not, it means a UK/US release might not be too far off with a 4k UHD scan now available. On my list of 4k UHDs to die for. Could this be the first Criterion 4k release?

10-15-2019, 12:43 AM	#4
bytor Expert Member Member since:Jan 2010 Blu-ray collection:53 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	Going by the Amazon page it doesn't look like there are English subs. I've never seen this movie, is the French audio the definitive version? Or is the English audio good enough that it might be worth it if there are no English subs for the French audio?

10-15-2019, 05:27 AM	#5
goathead1 Senior Member Member since:May 2013 Location:a state of decay Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:145	No, the movie was filmed in both languages as they shot it. There are a few French films that did this in the 60s and 70s to target the international English market, they are not dubs but two versions of the same movie filmed at the same time. some examples: The Sicilian Clan (1969) English/French versions both on Blu-ray The Brain (1969) English version only on VHS / French version on Blu-ray Rider On The Rain (1970) English/French versions both on Blu-ray The Burglars (1971) English/French versions both on Blu-ray

10-15-2019, 05:12 PM	#6
Pecker Power Member Member since:Jun 2011 Location:Yorkshire	Can’t we get Ozon’s Swimming Pool on regular Blu-ray Disc? I’m

10-27-2019, 01:45 AM	#8
sminister Senior Member Member since:Apr 2011 4K collection:264 Blu-ray collection:855 Digital collection:171 iTunes collection:2 Trading Score:36	Did anyone get this yet? Comments on quality? Mine shipped from France but it’ll be at least a week before it gets here in the US.

10-29-2019, 08:41 PM	#9
RDA Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2011 Location:UK 4K collection:36 Blu-ray collection:102	I received my copy although I'm not going to be hugely helpful as I don't own a UHD player yet so can't comment on the contents of that disc. However, the digibook package is seriously cool. The blu-ray contains both the French and English versions of the film, roughly taking about 20GB of space each with the French version the slightly bigger of the two. Both 24fps. Not watched yet but skipped through quickly and the PQ looks better than the previous Park Circus / M6 blu-rays to my eyes. DVD is 25fps and contains the French version only and a couple of special features. No English subtitles on the blu-ray or DVD. According to the back cover, the UHD probably only contains the French version and the special features and is not English friendly, but someone else will hopefully confirm this.

11-04-2019, 06:11 PM	#10
sminister Senior Member Member since:Apr 2011 4K collection:264 Blu-ray collection:855 Digital collection:171 iTunes collection:2 Trading Score:36	Received my copy. No English subs or audio on the 4K disc. 4K image is really nice. Thick grain. Colors are sharp and bright. Will watch the Blu-ray though as I’ve been meaning to see this for years.

11-17-2019, 09:14 PM	#11
goathead1 Senior Member Member since:May 2013 Location:a state of decay Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:145	How does the English version on the blu-ray compare to the previous release? Is it the same transfer or does it look a little better?

02-28-2020, 10:14 AM	#14
PowellPressburger Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Mpls, MN 4K collection:443 Blu-ray collection:3729 DVD collection:364 Blu-ray reviews: 51 Trading Score:253	A few poor quality and overly sharpened cell phone pics, believe me the image quality is great in motion on the disc and again these are cell phone pics so they look a bit off. Showing I was able to apply .srt subtitle files by USB for the 4K UHD disc and get English subtitles. As others have noted on the Parasite thread it only works on OPPPO and Cambridge players which are both no longer manufactured and prices are redic. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...=319109&page=6 Subtitle Option without the USB inserted into player. 1.jpg Once USB is inserted and you press subtitle button you now get the final option of OTHER - That is the USB 2.jpg English Subtitles 3.jpg Subtitle options changed color - You can change to multiple colors and borders, alter size and position. 4.jpg

03-05-2020, 04:50 AM	#15
sminister Senior Member Member since:Apr 2011 4K collection:264 Blu-ray collection:855 Digital collection:171 iTunes collection:2 Trading Score:36	Thanks for the information. I have a 203 and followed those instructions and it worked perfectly. Finally watching this for the first time.

08-04-2020, 09:34 PM	#16
andreasy969 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2008 Trading Score:87	I couldn't resist at the current price and saw no better future option anyway, so I grabbed this now. My French should do with the French subs with this one, but I intend to save it all to disk once the drives become larger anyway... The only issue I noticed so far, is the chroma not being perfect and I noticed it in motion already (#9 is one of the more prominent examples - you'll notice it with the hair here in particular), but other than that, this looks great. I also noticed the pngs being very large. Didn't compare and don't intend to compare with the BD. The HDR is the opposite of Sony kind (i.e. not very bright).

08-22-2020, 11:01 PM	#17
jacnorectangle Junior Member Member since:Feb 2015	I've ordered the 4k disc TWICE from Amazon UK, both of them freeze up in the middle of the movie. The first seller was Culture Empire, the second was Amazon Eu Sarl, but they both have the same address so I think they're both from the same source. They were both brand new, unopened. On the 4k disc I see a little line that won't go away when I rub it. The bluray disc has a smudge on it, though it plays fine. I returned the first one, but the shipping from the US back to France is so expensive, I'm just going to keep the second one I bought. I did see one review on Amazon that said their disc froze. It's a shame because the 4k looks so gorgeous. I'm thinking about buying it a third time from a seller on ebay. Haven't had this problem since the days of DVD.

08-24-2020, 09:36 PM	#18
barrett75 Senior Member Member since:Feb 2014 Location:Italy	same problem here, disc froze at around 53/57 minute mark. using panny ub9000... don't know if it's a disc issue or a player one...

08-25-2020, 05:50 AM	#19
andreasy969 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2008 Trading Score:87	Saw this only now... Reproducible freeze (as in stops playing completely) at 54:01 here as well (plays fine if I navigate to a few seconds after that). Will check via Panasonic (didn't watch the movie yet) later and would expect it to "just" freeze there instead (which would suck already). Guess it's a general problem with the disc.

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