The Shining three different running times on Blu-ray

[Q?]

I have a version with a running time of 119 minutes
And I searched for The Shining any saw two different versions
144 minutes and 96 minutes

https://www.blu-ray.com/search/?acti...archbutton.y=0

Now I'm confused, is there really one with a running time of 144?
If so, is it really worth it being a Kubrick die-hard fan (obviously a stupid question I know...)

[Blu As Hell]

Originally Posted by QQQQ!

I have a version with a running time of 119 minutes
And I searched for The Shining any saw two different versions
144 minutes and 96 minutes

https://www.blu-ray.com/search/?acti...archbutton.y=0

Now I'm confused, is there really one with a running time of 144?
If so, is it really worth it being a Kubrick die-hard fan (obviously a stupid question I know...)

Yours is only 119 minutes? Mine is 144 minutes. I don't know what's up with that. Unless the U.K. version is edited for some reason, it does happen. Kinda like Face/Off's U.K. version is missing a scene, and Casino Royale's U.K. version doesn't have the torture scene.

[Q?]

Sucky sucky sucks sucks! I want the 144!
thanks for the reply!... can anybody elaborate?

[Bigwayne]

If I understand it correctly, you have to import the US version if you want the original uncut version. The Shining was cut for its release internationally. I sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong on that.

[Blu As Hell]

I'm sorry dude, I would ask Jeff Kleist over in the Digital Bits insider thread, he's fairly knowledgeable about movies and he could possibly tell what's up. If you are in the U.K. or Europe, you can import the U.S. Version of the movie since WB titles are region free and you'll have the 144 minute version.

[Steve46]

I have the US version and it's 144 minutes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shining_(film)

There are several versions of The Shining. After its premiere and a week into the general run (with a running time of 146 minutes), Kubrick cut a scene at the end that took place in a hospital. The scene had Wendy in a bed talking with Mr. Ullman, the man who hired Jack at the beginning of the film. He explains that her husband's body could not be found, thus raising several questions and implications. This scene was subsequently physically cut out of prints by projectionists and sent back to the studio by order of Warner Bros., the film's distributor.

As noted by Roger Ebert:
“ If Jack did indeed freeze to death in the labyrinth, of course his body was found -- and sooner rather than later, since Dick Hallorann alerted the forest rangers to serious trouble at the hotel. If Jack's body was not found, what happened to it? Was it never there? Was it absorbed into the past, and does that explain Jack's presence in that final photograph of a group of hotel party-goers in 1921? Did Jack's violent pursuit of his wife and child exist entirely in Wendy's imagination, or Danny's, or theirs?... Kubrick was wise to remove that epilogue. It pulled one rug too many out from under the story. At some level, it is necessary for us to believe the three members of the Torrance family are actually residents in the hotel during that winter, whatever happens or whatever they think happens. ”

The European version runs for 119 minutes due to Kubrick personally cutting 24 minutes from the film as mentioned above.[54] The excised scenes made reference to the outside world.

[Q?]

Thanks all! As long as the scary bits are all in the 119 minutes.
and by the way I love this movie and it's pretty impressive considering
there aren't many dark scenes for a horror movie!
genious!!!!

[Steve46]

Originally Posted by QQQQ!

Thanks all! As long as the scary bits are all in the 119 minutes.
and by the way I love this movie and it's pretty impressive considering
there aren't many dark scenes for a horror movie!
genious!!!!

I was stunned by how good it looks in blu. Yep, it's a masterpiece of a movie, despite straying from King's story.

[Steve46]

Here is a list of changes made in the extended version:

***SPOILERS***

ABC edited 4 minutes from the film for its 1983 network television premiere.

Stanley Kubrick shot Jack's typewriter pages in different languages for release in different countries. Such localized versions were released internationally in theaters, on video and on TV. The DVD releases of 2001 and 2007, however, only feature the English version of the text.

In all previous video versions of The Shining, (prior to the 2001 DVD re-release), each title card failed to change in synchronization with the music. Upon being released on DVD, each title card does in fact change in sync with the music, the way it was originally intended.

Three days after the release of the film, Stanley Kubrick and Warner Bros. ordered all projectionists to cut about 10 minutes from the end of the film, and send the footage back to the studio. Starting after the closeup of frozen Jack, the camera goes to a pullback shot with part of a state trooper's car and the legs of troopers walking around in the foreground. We then cut to the hotel manager Stuart Ullman (Barry Nelson) walking down a hospital hallway to the nurse's station to inquire about Danny and Wendy. He's told they're both doing well and proceeds to Wendy's room. After some gentle conversation, he tells Wendy that searchers have been unable to locate any evidence of the apparitions she saw. Additionally, Jack's body cannot be located. We then cut to the camera silently roaming the halls of the Overlook Hotel for about a minute until it comes up to the wall with the photographs, where it [back to the ending as it is now known] fades in on the photo of Jack in the 1921 picture.

The longer version of the film, running approximately 146 minutes, is often erroneously called the Director's Cut when in fact director Stanley Kubrick regarded the shorter cut of the film, running approx 115 minutes, as the superior cut. The longer version was released theatrically in the U.S., and the shorter version was released theatrically in the rest of the world. When the film was released on home video in the US, Kubrick endorsed the shorter version of the film as the 'official' version. Nevertheless, the longer version of the film is the one now more commonly available. The following is a list of all the scenes or parts of scenes not present in the shorter European version:

The last line of dialogue spoken by Wendy (Shelley Duvall) in the kitchen scene; the subsequent dissolve; Bill Watson's (Barry Dennen) arrival at the interview with Jack (Jack Nicholson) and Stuart Ullman(Barry Nelson) (and all of his subsequent dialogue); Jack recounting his previous jobs; and Nelson explaining the reason for shutting the Overlook in winter were all removed from the European version.

After Danny's (Danny Lloyd) vision in the bathroom, the entire Doctor scene is removed, where Danny discusses "Tony" and we discover Jack dislocated Danny's shoulder in a moment of drunken rage, and gave up alcohol afterwards. The omission of this scene made Anne Jackson's (who plays the Doctor) name in the opening credits a mystery.

The scene where Jack, Wendy, Ullman and Watson first enter the Gold Room and are introduced to Dick Halloran (Scatman Crothers), the subsequent dissolve, and a line of dialogue between Halloran and Wendy were all removed.

The scenes where Ullman shows Jack and Wendy around the Colorado Lounge, when they walk outside to the maze and when Dick Halloran shows Wendy and Danny around the kitchens have been shortened, but not removed completely.

The first shot of Wendy wheeling the breakfast trolley.

The second half of Wendy and Jack's breakfast conversation where Jack says he feels he's been to the Overlook before.

A shot from behind Jack throwing the ball against the wall, the subsequent dissolve and the line "Loser has to keep America clean, how's that?".

The scene where Wendy sees the news and weather report on television in the kitchen while preparing food.

The title card "Thursday" and part of Wendy and Danny's snow-fight.

A scene of Wendy and Danny watching television in the Colorado Lounge.

Some lines of dialogue between Jack and Lloyd 9Joe Turkel during their first encounter.

A line of dialogue spoken by Jack after the encounter with the old woman (Billie Gibson, referring to Danny's vision of the blood.

The scene where Wendy goes over her plan to leave the Overlook whilst in the room and Danny becomes possessed by "Tony", sitting bolt upright in bed.

Halloran's third attempt at trying to contact them via the telephone and County Office.

The 8am title card.

Halloran's question to the stewardess on the plane.

A long shot from behind Jack at the typewriter.

Halloran's plane touching down and his phoning Larry (Tony Burton) to arrange the rental of a Sno-cat (as with the doctor, the omission of this scene made Tony Burton's name in the opening credits a mystery).

The scene where Danny watches Roadrunner and Wendy goes to find Jack, taking a baseball bat, just before she finds his manuscript.

Wendy seeing skeletons in the hotel lobby.

[LuckyKnight]

Just import the US version, it's what I did.

[Travis]

I got The Shining DVD in Hong Kong, can't buy that or Clockwork Orange in Taiwan. It is 120 mins, thought it was the European version. No idea or interest in a 96 min version. The only things that I noticed missing from the version I saw when I was younger were some of the title cards for the days and time and being showed the maze.

Here is what some others said about the differences
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...hining+cropped

QQQQ! did you buy The Shining 120 min on Blu-ray?

[andy86i]

Originally Posted by Blu As Hell

Casino Royale's U.K. version doesn't have the torture scene.

YES, it DOES

[neo_reloaded]

Did Warner actually release the European version in Europe? They are in the habit of just making one disc for the whole world, which has resulted in European customers finally getting the uncut American versions of films like The Matrix and Batman Returns (UK versions previously had a few small cuts). It would not surprise me at all if the UK release of The Shining was the longer one we received in America as well.

[Q?]

Originally Posted by Travis

I got The Shining DVD in Hong Kong, can't buy that or Clockwork Orange in Taiwan. It is 120 mins, thought it was the European version. No idea or interest in a 96 min version. The only things that I noticed missing from the version I saw when I was younger were some of the title cards for the days and time and being showed the maze.

Here is what some others said about the differences
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...hining+cropped

QQQQ! did you buy The Shining 120 min on Blu-ray?

Mine's 119 minutes on blu-ray...

[Daredevil666]

Isn't there another thread already ?

White cover br = short version
Black cover br = long version

get them both !

[Kynch]

I know other people have replied, but for a quick recap of the existing running times here's what IMDb says:

Runtime:
146 min (original version) | 142 min (cut) | 119 min (cut) (European version)

[Q?]

Originally Posted by dvdvision

Isn't there another thread already ?

White cover br = short version
Black cover br = long version

get them both !

Is there a good reason to get the 144 version when you've only seen the 119 version in your life?

[Blu As Hell]

Originally Posted by andy86i

YES, it DOES

Well I'm sorry to upset you by being mistaken on which country outside the U.S. has a version of Casino Royale without the torture scene.

[statikcat]

So Kubrick prefers the short version. Any opinions from fans who have seen both?

[Grubert]

Originally Posted by QQQQ!

Is there a good reason to get the 144 version when you've only seen the 119 version in your life?

Yes. The longer cut is much more fleshed out and one of the plot transitions (Danny's condition) is handled much better, making Wendy's attitude much more plausible.