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Old 01-12-2018, 12:49 PM   #173081
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Is it though? I really believe WB holds both of those movies in equal regard.
Nah. 2001 didn't get a release like this:

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Old 01-12-2018, 01:12 PM   #173082
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I didn't, but I do see now why it appears that way. I said "I" instead of "they". Sorry, lack of sleep.

I don't think Warner Brothers views Casablanca as a more prestigious film than 2001.


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You misread my post. 2001 is a tier below Casablanca in terms of studio prestige.
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Old 01-12-2018, 01:16 PM   #173083
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How many sub fifty year old films have gotten deluxe editions like that? Casablanca, The Wizard of Oz, Lawrence of Arabia, Singin' in the Rain, Ben Hur, The Ten Commandments, Gone With the Wind off the top of my head are all at least fifty years old. 2001: A Space Odyssey's 50th Anniversary isn't until May 12th of this year.

JFK is the one exception I can think of to receive a big box set like the aforementioned films, but it was released to coincide with the 50th Anniversary of John F. Kennedy's death. It went on sale November 12, 2013. Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963.

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Old 01-12-2018, 01:31 PM   #173084
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Also, let's not forget that 2001: A Space Odyssey was part of a huge Kubrick Masterpiece Collection.

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Those box sets need to die in a fire anyway. A venn diagram of 'people likely to buy this' and 'people whose collections take up a lot of shelf space already' is basically a circle.
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Old 01-12-2018, 01:52 PM   #173086
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When I first started my DVD collection, a Kubrick box set was a must. And I had one (I think all the original snapper-case editions in a box), before they all started coming out in two-disc editions. Then I upgraded them all individually. Then I upgraded them all to Blu-Ray. The only reason I don't have a Blu-Ray box set is because I have them all as stand-alone already. If I could go back in time with a PS3 and gift it to my younger self, the Kubrick Blu-Ray set would have been a no-brainer.

Alas, nowadays, I decided to become pickier with my collecting and part with some of my stand-alones. I won't be a Kubrick completionist anymore. Although more Criterion Kubrick releases might make me reconsider.
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I have the Australian version of that Kubrick set, which is simply a Blu-ray case with swing trays. Takes up the space of maybe two or three normal cases, and that's it.
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I like the box sets. If you donít like them, donít buy them.

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How many sub fifty year old films have gotten deluxe editions like that? Casablanca, The Wizard of Oz, Lawrence of Arabia, Singin' in the Rain, Ben Hur, The Ten Commandments, Gone With the Wind off the top of my head are all at least fifty years old. 2001: A Space Odyssey's 50th Anniversary isn't until May 12th of this year.

JFK is the one exception I can think of to receive a big box set like the aforementioned films, but it was released to coincide with the 50th Anniversary of John F. Kennedy's death. It went on sale November 12, 2013. Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963.
Deluxe editions for modern films are pretty rare. They did do one for The Iron Giant a couple years back, and one for Watchmen Ultimate Edition, and I believe they did a couple for The Notebook too.

But nowadays WHV has basically shifted their catalog business to WAC, and licensing to Criterion, so I think the days of them doing big sets, or even any kind of anniversary releases are mostly over with. They'll likely have a nice set later this year for Batman: The Animated Series, but deluxe sets will be far and few between sadly.
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I like the box sets. If you don’t like them, don’t buy them.
I try to avoid it, but it's often the only way to get the content. There are several "best games in team history" sets for Australian football teams out at the moment, and they're all that style of box. No booklets or other gear, just DVDs. It's the only way to get them. Ultimate Jordan is the same. Dexter is only available in a ridiculously wide box that contains two much more normal-sized boxes. The Steven Spielberg set is only available that way here, whereas the US set has exactly the same content in a more reasonable package. It's the other way around with the Kubrick set - ours shelves nicely, the US set takes up a ton of space.
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Is it though? I really believe WB holds both of those movies in equal regard.
It's debatable. When I think of Warner Brothers I think of Casablanca first. The film is also a product of the studio system and what many consider the golden age.
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Spinal Tap was just added to the Criterion channel on Filmstruck, as part of their Friday Double feature. Not sure if it's indicative a BD release from CC, which has been strongly rumored.

Also they just added the Mr Arkadin films too.
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Is it though? I really believe WB holds both of those movies in equal regard.
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It's debatable. When I think of Warner Brothers I think of Casablanca first. The film is also a product of the studio system and what many consider the golden age.
I think that Warner Bros. considers Casablanca to be their flagship film and hold it in the highest regard as it was a film that they themselves actually produced and they use "As Time Goes By" as the "theme music" on their modern day shield intro.

2001 was an MGM film that they acquired through the Turner merger so while I'm sure they also hold it in high regard, I think there's a more "personal" affection towards Casablanca.
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I think "Casablanca" was considered WB's flagship film until "Suicide Squad" came along. Now, it's time for Bogey and Bergman to step aside.
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Spinal Tap was just added to the Criterion channel on Filmstruck, as part of their Friday Double feature. Not sure if it's indicative a BD release from CC, which has been strongly rumored.

Also they just added the Mr Arkadin films too.
Things just got turned up to 11.
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I think that Warner Bros. considers Casablanca to be their flagship film and hold it in the highest regard as it was a film that they themselves actually produced and they use "As Time Goes By" as the "theme music" on their modern day shield intro.

2001 was an MGM film that they acquired through the Turner merger so while I'm sure they also hold it in high regard, I think there's a more "personal" affection towards Casablanca.
Warner Bros got Casablanca from the Turner merger too. Ted Turner owned the pre-1950 Warner Bros movies.
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I still want to get the Ben-Hur and Ten Commandments box sets because I doubt the silent versions will ever see a standalone release even though the 1925 Ben-Hur is in many ways IMO even better than the 59 version. The '25 Ben-Hur sounds like a film right up Criterion's alley and sounds like a movie WB would license to Criterion in a heartbeat.
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Warner Bros got Casablanca from the Turner merger too. Ted Turner owned the pre-1950 Warner Bros movies.
What I was getting at though was that Casablanca was an actual Warner Bros film; 2001 was an MGM film.
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Also they just added the Mr Arkadin films too.
Don't tease me.

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Just watched The Breakfast Club. I know there are people who believe it shouldn’t have gotten a release, but those people are wrong. Criterion releases “important classic and contemporary films”. The Breakfast Club is a hugely important film. It’s something that every teenager should have to view, especially in our current times where teenagers seem more lost than ever. Maybe, as in the film, kids sat down with one another and told one another how they felt and what their problems are instead of creating a false image of themselves on social media and not coming to terms with their issues, they would be better off. I love The Breakfast Club. It is one of the most honest movies out there, and easily the best film about teens ever made. It has earned it right to be in this collection that those of us on this forum so love. Am going to dive into the extras tomorrow. Can’t wait.
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