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Old 10-21-2011, 11:40 PM   #161
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The answer appears to be posted right out of the manual; nearly all U.S. BD-player manuals say that. However, multiple sites that sell hardware-hacked region-free versions of the BD640 say it has high-quality, built-in PAL/NTSC conversion; that's usually NOT part of the hardware hack. The only way to be sure is to try and play a disc with 50Hz content.

A good choice for testing is the UK BD of Once (on DVD only here), which is region-free with 1080p24 menus & movie but PAL extras; it's presently $11.54 shipped from Amazon UK at ACC exchange rates. (Even if you can't play the extras, it's a must-own movie.)
The question on the "Product Questions & Answers" of the LG BD640 is: "Does the LG BD640 player support PAL/50hz, and convert them to NTSC/60hz?"

One user has answered it: "As it turns out, this unit does not support PAL." However, no one has found this answer helpful since.

I have no confidence whether the LG BD640 player can handle PAL/50hz or not, but don't think newer LG Blu-ray players will do the same.

I have four German BD imports and a Sony Blu-ray player, which never accepts and plays PAL or 50hz content and then skips it. Exceptions are BDs of Hop and Big Buck Bunny whose SD extras are in 480i.
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Old 10-22-2011, 11:38 AM   #162
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Can Pioneer BDP-330 Blu-ray Player convert 50Hz content to 60Hz?
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Old 10-24-2011, 06:51 AM   #163
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From reading page 42 (PDF page 43) of your Samsung's manual and comparing that to your Insignia's specs (1080p, 60Hz native refresh ratio) as well as your comment, I'm sure the Samsung is set to upconvert everything--including 50Hz content--to 1080p60, just like my Sherwood (also connected to a 1080p, 60Hz-native display).

With the player stopped, press the Menu button, then select Setup > Display Setup. More than likely, you'll see "Movie Frame (24 Fs)" set to Off and "Resolution" set to 1080p.

If you have a region-free PAL DVD around, you might even see if your player will play it. My Sherwood will play PAL DVDs from any region, but then it has a region remote hack; if yours ever had one, Samsung probably killed it in a firmware upgrade. (There's supposedly a similar upgrade for my Sherwood, but my original firmware still works just fine.)
It is indeed set to Movie Frame Off and Resolution at 1080p. I did pop in a Region 0 DVD with PAL content but my player just spat it back out. But hey, it still plays 1080/50i, so I can't complain.
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Old 10-25-2011, 04:50 AM   #164
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Does the Insignia NS-WBRDVD3 handle PAL SD content on Blu-rays/50hz content?
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Old 10-26-2011, 08:03 PM   #165
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An addition to the list:
Like the 210, the Panasonic DMP-BDT110 doesn't support 50Hz material.
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Old 10-28-2011, 05:44 AM   #166
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The question on the "Product Questions & Answers" of the LG BD640 is: "Does the LG BD640 player support PAL/50hz, and convert them to NTSC/60hz?"

One user has answered it: "As it turns out, this unit does not support PAL." However, no one has found this answer helpful since.

I have no confidence whether the LG BD640 player can handle PAL/50hz or not, but don't think newer LG Blu-ray players will do the same.

I have four German BD imports and a Sony Blu-ray player, which never accepts and plays PAL or 50hz content and then skips it. Exceptions are BDs of Hop and Big Buck Bunny whose SD extras are in 480i.
That's an apples-to-oranges comparison. Many Sony BD players in the U.S., from the PS3 to SAs, are notorious for ignoring PAL/50Hz content; LG is a different story.

My point was, the answer given on the LG website is the stock answer almost *any* player manufacturer will give, probably as dictated by the BDA. (Edit: My Sherwood's manual says the same thing, but when properly configured it'll play PAL/50Hz content on both BDs and DVDs; I've tested it.) The manufacturer is the *WORST* place to look for info on a player's PAL/50Hz or region-free capability. The OP's own testing a few posts above (after yours) is more legitimate: It won't play PAL DVDs, but it will play 1080i50 content. (He apparently didn't test for 576i/p content on a BD, i.e., the extras on Once UK.)

(Edit: And a lot of studios--most famously WB, but also Universal, most Sony, and recent Disney & Fox releases--routinely produce region-free BDs with SD extras in 480i/p worldwide to reduce BD mastering costs. Seems most BD players, or the TVs they're attached to, in PAL territories routinely handle NTSC/60Hz content as well as PAL/50Hz. Sadly, the opposite is *NOT* true for many U.S. players; that's why this thread exists.)

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Old 11-01-2011, 06:57 AM   #167
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An addition to the list:
Like the 210, the Panasonic DMP-BDT110 doesn't support 50Hz material.
Thanks.
What TV/display did you test it with, and are you sure the TV/display is compatible with 50Hz (since other Panasonic players output 50Hz content at 50Hz, requiring a display that was compatible)?

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Old 11-01-2011, 04:40 PM   #168
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Thanks.
What TV/display did you test it with, and are you sure the TV/display is compatible with 50Hz (since other Panasonic players output 50Hz content at 50Hz, requiring a display that was compatible)?
According to firmwareinfo dot com all current North American Panasonic Blu-ray devices have been "software-restricted" to NTSC-only playback.

According to the enhanced firmware feature lists, the following devices have been restricted in this way:

DMP-B500, DMP-BD35, DMP-BD55, DMP-BD65, DMP-BD85, DMP-BD655, DMP-BDT100, DMP-BDT105, DMP-BDT107, DMP-BDT300, DMP-BDT350, DMP-BDT110, DMP-BDT111, DMP-BDT115, DMP-BDT210, DMP-BDT215, DMP-BDT310

This restriction can be removed by installing enhanced firmware but none of these devices will play PAL (50Hz) content with stock firmware.
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Old 11-05-2011, 09:31 AM   #169
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According to firmwareinfo dot com all current North American Panasonic Blu-ray devices have been "software-restricted" to NTSC-only playback.

According to the enhanced firmware feature lists, the following devices have been restricted in this way:

DMP-B500, DMP-BD35, DMP-BD55, DMP-BD65, DMP-BD85, DMP-BD655, DMP-BDT100, DMP-BDT105, DMP-BDT107, DMP-BDT300, DMP-BDT350, DMP-BDT110, DMP-BDT111, DMP-BDT115, DMP-BDT210, DMP-BDT215, DMP-BDT310

This restriction can be removed by installing enhanced firmware but none of these devices will play PAL (50Hz) content with stock firmware.
Thanks for the info.

I'm not sure that site is entirely accurate though, because according to people in this thread some of the players in that list work okay (or worked at the time of posting) with 50Hz.

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Can anybody confirm that Panasonic BD65/85 is still 50Hz compatible after
firmware update.
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Yes, the firmware update had no effect on the ability to play 50hz on my BD85.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-pl...ml#post3128383
But that site seems to be mostly about getting firmware to enable it. Also, there haven't been any more posts in this thread from people who own players such as the Panasonic BD65/85 about their players stopping working with 50Hz.

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Old 11-10-2011, 10:41 PM   #170
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add SAMSUNG BD-C6500 as one that plays 1080i/50 just fine

like the other Sammy's it probably changes the framerate
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Old 11-13-2011, 03:57 PM   #171
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add SAMSUNG BD-C6500 as one that plays 1080i/50 just fine

like the other Sammy's it probably changes the framerate
Thanks. Does it say 60Hz on your TV (pressing Info/Display) when playing 50Hz content with it?
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Old 11-25-2011, 04:30 AM   #172
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Any word about the 3d Samsung players? Is there a "50hz" difference between the bd-c5500 and bd-d5500, or bd-c6500 and bd-d6500?

Thank you.
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Old 12-08-2011, 08:55 AM   #173
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I currently do not have a TV that will display 50Hz content. Can anyone confirm that the LG BD630 still converts from 50Hz to 60Hz, even with the latest firmware update? Looks like it's on sale for $60 at Amazon right now. Definitely the right price! Thanks!

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Old 12-23-2011, 08:00 PM   #174
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Thumbs up Philips BDP3200/98 plays 50Hz

Philips BDP3200/98 bought in Singapore, plays back Life(UK) BD without any issue
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Old 12-25-2011, 03:46 PM   #175
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Philips BDP3200/98 bought in Singapore, plays back Life(UK) BD without any issue
Isn't is pretty much U.S. models that are the only ones that restrict 1080i/50 and PAL, though?
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Old 12-25-2011, 04:56 PM   #176
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Is it still just Insignia and Vizio that we need for a 1080i50 UK disc?

I want the F1 2011 season review.
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Old 12-25-2011, 06:32 PM   #177
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Hi everyone.

I'm looking to replace my Sony BDP-S350 with a new blu ray player.

I'd like to be able to play UK region-free discs such as Frozen Planet on my Panasonic VIERA TC-P65ST30
I use a Pioneer VSX-920-K as HT receiver if that makes any difference.

So I'd like a wireless Blu Ray player, 3D is not essential but would be preferable. And trouble free playing of region free discs from the UK is my #1 concern.

If anyone has a recommendation, please let me know. I was thinking LG 670?
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Old 12-26-2011, 07:13 PM   #178
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Does anyone know whether the LG LHB336 is compatible with 50Hz Blu-ray content?

Thanks for your help.
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Old 12-28-2011, 12:17 AM   #179
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Thumbs up BD-D5500ZA plays 50hz with no issue!

I can confirm that my Samsung 3D Wi-Fi Ready Blu-ray Player BD-D5500ZA plays 1080i/50hz with no issue. I tested it using my Torchwood: Miracle Day blu-ray which is region-free, but 50hz! Worked fine with no judder or any other noticeable issues.
Not that it matters, but my player is hooked up to a Samsung 51" 3D Plasma HDTV-PN51D490A1.

Hope this helps! --Rick
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Old 12-29-2011, 01:08 AM   #180
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I can confirm that my Samsung 3D Wi-Fi Ready Blu-ray Player BD-D5500ZA plays 1080i/50hz with no issue. I tested it using my Torchwood: Miracle Day blu-ray which is region-free, but 50hz! Worked fine with no judder or any other noticeable issues.
Not that it matters, but my player is hooked up to a Samsung 51" 3D Plasma HDTV-PN51D490A1.

Hope this helps! --Rick
Does that mean it likely converts to 1080i60 presuming the Sammy won't show 1080i50 content?
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