Venom (2018)

[enenra]

So how are we going to explain Carnage?
It appeared that the Symbiotes are their own person regardless of who the host is (Venom was still venom when we saw "she venom") so WOody just coming into contact with Venom wont make a whole new symbiote/personality in Carnage based on what we witness throughout Venom.

Every other Symbiote appears dead in the movie too.

[Wintendo]

Originally Posted by enenra

So how are we going to explain Carnage?
It appeared that the Symbiotes are their own person regardless of who the host is (Venom was still venom when we saw "she venom") so WOody just coming into contact with Venom wont make a whole new symbiote/personality in Carnage based on what we witness throughout Venom.

Every other Symbiote appears dead in the movie too.

the offspring route could be nice. but movies do change up how things work. so other symbiotes are dead and venom is only survivor and since no more are coming to earth so soon a regrouped life foundation could force extract new symbiotes from the venom symbiote. lasher phage agony scream and carnage. could keep looking for new human test subjects and pick cletus.

[MifuneFan]

Finally watched this, and I really liked it. It's not a great movie, and it's pretty rough around the edges, but it has pure popcorn entertainment. The story is solid, and there's a surprising amount of humor throughout. The movie never really is dull either. Yes, there's a bit of a slow build-up, but everything is well-paced, and plot-driven without useless tangents and side-plots.

I loved that Venom has such a fully fleshed-out personality independent of Brock. Their back and forths throughout the movie were pretty hilarious. I think they went a bit overboard at times with how "human" they made Venom's personality, like his advanced use of sarcasm, or slang, etc...but some of those kinds of lines were the funniest. I thought the Venom special effects were pretty cool too.

I thought Hardy was perfect for the role. In addition to having the right look and build for an action lead, he had great comedic timing, and mannerisms that really sold the idea of him essentially talking to himself. I can't imagine anyone really doing better here.

There's a lot of dopey things in the movie. The villain is pretty silly, and generic, there's a ton of just dumb lines throughout the movie too. But I don't think it was aiming for anything that intelligent. It's just meant to be a fun comic book action film, and I think it did that well.

[eternalbiz]

I watched this at the Drive In the second week it was out and initially did not know if I liked it or not. Finally got around to watching it again and knowing what I was in for the second viewing for me was a hundred times better and I really enjoy this movie.

I'm actually becoming fond of campiness in CBM's. They make the movie more fun if done right.

[dgoswald]

I love this film. It's not even "so bad that's it's good." It's unironically good. Hardy makes this film. Without him there's very little chance it would've worked.

[Chris60119]

Originally Posted by eternalbiz

I watched this at the Drive In the second week it was out and initially did not know if I liked it or not. Finally got around to watching it again and knowing what I was in for the second viewing for me was a hundred times better and I really enjoy this movie.

I'm actually becoming fond of campiness in CBM's. They make the movie more fun if done right.

I agree. The first time through I was disappointed. I wanted it to be rated R and I still do. When I accepted it for what it is. I enjoyed it a lot more.

[InuYashaCrusade]

Venom sold 1,205,383 copies in the first week of release

https://www.the-numbers.com/home-mar...art/2018/12/23

[Erzengel]

So I finally watched this and I didn't know how likeable the symbiote was going to be. It did have a the whole it's so bad, it's good quality but yeah the CGI, story, etc. wasn't on par with the rest of the genre or even the movies last year but it was enjoyable.

[Spirit Zero]

Venom (2018)

Another day, another comicbook movie. When will it end??

So after the somewhat dismal iteration of Venom in 'Spider-Man 3' Sony went back to the drawing board. Initially plans seemed to revolve around having Venom get in on the action in the rebooted 'The Amazing Spider-Man' franchise, but that failed. There were ideas to have Venom kickstart his own franchise which would share the same universe as other Marvel characters. There was also an idea to have Venom in 'Spider-Man: Homecoming'. There was also an idea to have a low budget adult version. Whatever rumours or stories we can all agree that for some reason the powers that be really wanted a Venom movie.

So eventually we got this movie. Whilst on a deep space mission a corporation led by the evil Carlton Drake (Riz Ahmed) manages to discover a comet covered in symbiotic lifeforms. Bringing four specimens back to Earth one escapes and causes the shuttle to crash which unleashes it. In the meantime Drake starts to experiment on humans, trying to get the aliens to match with a host. The aliens need an oxygen-breathing host to survive.

As you might imagine Eddie Brock (Tom Hardy) eventually gets into this corporations HQ (with help from an employee) and is accidentally taken over by one of the symbiotes. We then follow Brock as he adjusts to the alien inside him, Drake and his goons coming after Brock, and eventually the last surviving symbiote taking over Drake resulting in Riot.

Now I'm not up on every Marvel character so I don't know how accurate this movie is to the original source material. I'm guessing there have been many changes. But I do have some large queries. The symbiotes are looking for a planet with hosts they can take over and consume, OK. So what exactly is their plan of action for Earth? Eat every human and...? Then what? Is this all they do?

At the start of the movie we are led to believe that it's hard to find the correct match for the symbiote. Drake is going through loads of human test subjects trying to find a human that will bond with the symbiote. OK that's fine. But at the same time, the symbiote Riot seems to be jumping from human to human no probs at all. Add to that, later on in the movie the symbiote Venom seems to have no problem taking over Brock's ex-girlfriend and a dog. Riot also takes over Drake no problems too. I dunno if I missed something but this just seems inconsistent because we are led to believe that it's hard to find the perfect match for the symbiotes, and when Venom finds Brock it's treated like a shocking breakthrough.

I also found kinda odd that the aliens have names from our human language. I thought (in the comics) Brock came up with the name himself once combined with the symbiote (?). But in this movie the symbiotes seem to already have their names. I also thought Venom changed its mind way too quickly about Earth and humans. The symbiote seems to take the choice of betraying its own very easily purely based on liking Brock. And it had only been combined to Brock for a day or so, maybe not even that! Far too convenient for me.

Aside from that the movie is generally incredibly dated in style and outcome. This really feels like a movie that came out in the 90's. It looks like a movie that came out in the 90's. The CGI ranges from really sweet lookin' to really terrible lookin'. Close-ups of Venom are great, most everything else is bad. Most of the action sequences are woefully bad in both execution and visuals. The stunts are clearly stunts. There are tonnes of obvious greenscreen shots. Venom looks rubbery at times and plastic at others. When Venom fights Riot its an indistinguishable CGI mess. And the bad guys are astronomically cliched. This is the present day 'Spawn'.

Yet despite all that, for some reason, I kinda liked this. I like that they tried to make this somewhat dark and gritty, and for the most part, they succeeded. The start of the movie is quite eerie, playing up some horror tropes. And Hardy definitely helps with his unhinged, dirty, druggie-esque performance. Personally I think they should have gone for broke with an all out R/18 rated flick because the head biting scenes needed to be seen. As they stand its stupid because there's no blood or gore and I'm pretty sure onlookers would be more horrified (the Asian shopkeeper at the end much?).

But yeah, can't quite put my finger on it but I sorta liked this. Kinda reminded me of the trashy mid 90's flicks I'd see at my local Odeon on a Wednesday afternoon. Its not a good movie, its legitimately bad with poor...everything truth be told. Still, in an odd way, this is just...dumb fun.

6/10

[Mikezilla3k]

Saw this a few days ago.

A toneally-confused mess of a film that's wwwaaaayyy more fun than it should have been.

[GRD43L]

Venom finally made to Netflix. Tom Hardy & Michelle William's in it so I gave it benefit of the doubt.

To me it felt like a thin shell of a movie filled with high corporate expectations and a cartoony string script.

Think the movie ran out of budget after Tom, Michelle, and the CG. Voted solid 1 star.

[ben6543]

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