Sony Bravia HX929 and motion flow 960Hz

[ZoetMB]

Originally Posted by WarEagleDoc

Hey everyone, I had sort of a silly question. I recently upgraded to a Sony 55HX929 so I thought I would post this in here. I tried to search it but to no avail.

I recently upgraded to the 55HX929 from a 6 year old 50" Pioneer Plasma. Has anyone else noticed any sort of visual effects related to these newer LCD's? I ask because between my brothers 65" Samsung 8000 series and my new television, I can't seem to watch anything for a long period of time. Anything > 60 minutes I guess.

I seem to be getting headaches, or sometimes it just seems like I am having eye strain, and have to take a break every so often. This has never happened before, and it never happens when I go see movies at a movie theater, but only at home.

Any ideas?? Or is it just me? Thanks in advance!

Depending upon the calibration, LCDs tend to be brighter than plasmas, so you might be reacting to that.

Or, if the image is sharper, your eyes are trying to resolve the lines and that might be causing eyestrain.

You might want to try watching in a partially lit room so that there's less contrast.

In any case, you might want to get your eyes checked. It might just be a coincidence that you didn't feel eyestrain when watching the plasma.

[Darth Fredius]

Hy Guys,
Sorry for the delay..
Here's some pictures I took with my camera.
Sorry fo the bad pics quality / my camera is not a HD one..
So pics loose a lot of sharpeness and detail of the original image quality.
And of course you can't judge the impressive 800 Htz /60 fpi motion flow system...
But you can have an idea of the deep black this Led Tv set have...
Hope It will help.

[steve1971]

Originally Posted by Darth Fredius

Hy Guys,
Sorry for the delay..
Here's some pictures I took with my camera.
Sorry fo the bad pics quality / my camera is not a HD one..
So pics loose a lot of sharpeness and detail of the original image quality.
And of course you can't judge the impressive 800 Htz /60 fpi motion flow system...
But you can have an idea of the deep black this Led Tv set have...
Hope It will help.

Mighty impressive Darth!

[Darth Fredius]

Originally Posted by steve1971

Mighty impressive Darth!

Thank you !

[Taygan315]

For your camera not being an HD one (as you put it), those pics look great! As does the set. Very nice!

[Darth Fredius]

Thanks !!
Here's some new pics... Sorry for the bad pics again...
At least 50 % of the details are lost in theses pics...

[SpectrumOfPain]

Great pictures! I just love this TV . People are always in awe when they come over to my house and witness how a blu-ray should really look like, haha.

[steve1971]

Originally Posted by Darth Fredius

Thanks !!
Here's some new pics... Sorry for the bad pics again...
At least 50 % of the details are lost in theses pics...

Holy crap what a beautiful set of pics. Your 929 is a beauty. Be proud of it.

[toddly6666]

When a tv channel broadcasts an HD movie with the cinemotion/cinema drive/soap opera effect activated, there's no way to turn that effect off (aka the way it was meant to be seen in the theater)? Im assuming that one has the control to turn on/off this option when watching a bluray but no option to turn it off when a channel broadcasts a movie like that?

[ZoetMB]

Originally Posted by toddly6666

When a tv channel broadcasts an HD movie with the cinemotion/cinema drive/soap opera effect activated, there's no way to turn that effect off (aka the way it was meant to be seen in the theater)? Im assuming that one has the control to turn on/off this option when watching a bluray but no option to turn it off when a channel broadcasts a movie like that?

What are you talking about? There's no such thing as broadcasting with a soap opera effect. There's a such thing as recording a show in a video format as opposed to film or vice-versa, but that's about it. Shows shot on video tend to have much higher contrast and are lit differently than movies. Comedy shows are shot either as a multicamera shoot or like film, as a single camera shoot. Friends and Seinfeld were both shot on film, single camera. Most situation comedies (sorry, can't think of a current one) are generally shot multi-camera and on video. Dramas can be shot on film or video, but even when shot on video (digital), they are generally given a filmic look in post production, like Game of Thrones or The Borgias.

The one thing you can't get away from is that TV is broadcasting at 30 frames per sec/60 fields per second (actually usually 29.97 fps if drop frame) interlaced as opposed to the 24 fps that films are generally shot and presented at (The Hobbit being a notable exception), but that in itself will not cause the soap opera effect when watching a movie on TV. For 24 fps movies, the 3:2 pulldown is used just as it was in analog TV.

If you don't want to see the soap opera effect, simply turn off motionflow on the HX929. End of story.

[toddly6666]

Originally Posted by ZoetMB

What are you talking about? There's no such thing as broadcasting with a soap opera effect. There's a such thing as recording a show in a video format as opposed to film or vice-versa, but that's about it. Shows shot on video tend to have much higher contrast and are lit differently than movies. Comedy shows are shot either as a multicamera shoot or like film, as a single camera shoot. Friends and Seinfeld were both shot on film, single camera. Most situation comedies (sorry, can't think of a current one) are generally shot multi-camera and on video. Dramas can be shot on film or video, but even when shot on video (digital), they are generally given a filmic look in post production, like Game of Thrones or The Borgias.

The one thing you can't get away from is that TV is broadcasting at 30 frames per sec/60 fields per second (actually usually 29.97 fps if drop frame) interlaced as opposed to the 24 fps that films are generally shot and presented at (The Hobbit being a notable exception), but that in itself will not cause the soap opera effect when watching a movie on TV. For 24 fps movies, the 3:2 pulldown is used just as it was in analog TV.

If you don't want to see the soap opera effect, simply turn off motionflow on the HX929. End of story.

All the gimmicky features were set to be off, so I cant believe Sony would force people to only watch stuff with the soap opera effect.