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Old 02-19-2013, 05:10 AM   #1
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Hello there fellow audio inclined enthusiasts!
So I recently moved my AV123 towers into the office/playroom to make it the office/playroom/listening room for Hifi. Well so I was using some Pioneer bookshelf speakers in the office as computer speakers. Now that they are switched they are ok but I would like to get something with a little more presence/room fill.

So here are the restrictions:

They need to be bookshelf speakers. The reason I moved the towers is because they kept being knocked over by my children and the thought of 60 lbs speakers falling is a little scary.

They are going into the living room which opens to the dining room, kitchen and hall way; so a lot of room.

My budget can probably be about $600 but south of that would be good.

I am currently running two identical center channels with metal dome tweeters. I am not to worried about matching the fronts as even though the towers were the same brand, the family of speakers were different. I was thinking about B&W 685 or PSB Image B6s. Any advise on some speakers that would do well for music and movies would be great. I would say these speakers would be primarily for movies with some music duties. 70/30.

Any input would be greatly appreciated!
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:41 AM   #2
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The following are all factory direct speaker companies. They make very good speakers and sell them at reasonable prices. My favorite company is Iky Audio. If you buy their speakers, you will never have to go to the bathroom.

In addition to the following, there are hundreds of other companies that make great bookshelf speakers. It is best to visit a few audio dealers and audition as many as you can.

The list is in alphabetical order.

Axiom:
http://www.axiomaudio.com/bookshelf-speakers

Aperion:
http://www.aperionaudio.com/speakers...lite-bookshelf

Crystal Audio:
http://www.crystalaudiovideo.com/Pro...helf-pair.aspx

Emotiva:
http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/...products/xrm61

EMP Tek:
http://www.emptek.com/e5bi.php

Home Theater Direct (HTD):
http://www.htd.com/Products/level-th...shelf-Speakers

Hsu Research:
http://www.hsuresearch.com/speakers.html

Iky Audio:
http://www.etsy.com/shop/ikymagoo?ref=top_trail

Occam Audio:
http://www.occamaudio.com/finishedPayPal.html

RSL:
http://rslspeakers.com/store/rsl-cg4-25.html

Streem:
http://www.streemspeakers.com/bp-200.asp

Swan:
http://www.theaudioinsider.com/manuf...s.php/mPath/10

Tekton Design:
http://www.tektondesign.com/loudspeaker.htm
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:08 PM   #3
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I highly recommend the psb B6. Huge sound for a small speaker. Paired with a good sub (xv15 in my case ) and these things rock. I tell you what I am auditioning aperion verus grand bookshelfs and I will let you know the difference (they come in on Friday) if I fall in love with the grands I would be putting the psb's up for sale so ill let you know
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:24 PM   #4
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Sub $500 bookshelf speakers..

1. Bowers & Wilkins 686
2. Monitor Audio BX2
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:31 PM   #5
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Sub $500 bookshelf speakers..

1. Bowers & Wilkins 686
2. Monitor Audio BX2
I second the Monitor Audio BX2's. I'm very happy with mine.
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I'm recommending the Aperion Audio Verus Grand.

http://www.aperionaudio.com/speakers...kshelf-speaker

$699/pr.
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Hello there fellow audio inclined enthusiasts!
So I recently moved my AV123 towers into the office/playroom to make it the office/playroom/listening room for Hifi. Well so I was using some Pioneer bookshelf speakers in the office as computer speakers. Now that they are switched they are ok but I would like to get something with a little more presence/room fill.

So here are the restrictions:

They need to be bookshelf speakers. The reason I moved the towers is because they kept being knocked over by my children and the thought of 60 lbs speakers falling is a little scary.

They are going into the living room which opens to the dining room, kitchen and hall way; so a lot of room.

My budget can probably be about $600 but south of that would be good.

I am currently running two identical center channels with metal dome tweeters. I am not to worried about matching the fronts as even though the towers were the same brand, the family of speakers were different. I was thinking about B&W 685 or PSB Image B6s. Any advise on some speakers that would do well for music and movies would be great. I would say these speakers would be primarily for movies with some music duties. 70/30.

Any input would be greatly appreciated!
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:09 PM   #8
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If you are interested with the MA BX2, a dealer in Chicago has a B-stock for $389/pair. You can check it out here http://saturdayaudio.com
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:53 PM   #9
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Big Daddy - Comprehensive reply as always. I went through each of the listed links that you sent me. Very cool. I had not heard of Occam before. Those are some pretty speakers.

Out of the speakers listed any stand out to you specifically?

Great suggestion by the way of going to a local audio shop. I had gotten so wrapped up on getting something online to get a "Deal" that I forgot about that option. I got my towers from a local audio shop called Hawthorne Audio.

Iky? Hahaha!

rpatt & Ianvillaceran - I see great reviews for the BX2 so that may be a great option. One plus for it as well is that it is front ported. I will be placing these fairly close to the back wall so that may be very handy.

Bmoney - I love the look of the PSB's. I see that yours are mounted to the wall. How close are they and do you notice much of a difference between bringing them out a little and where they are now? I lean towards these but I have never heard them so its a little hard.

Bmoney & JJ - You are speaking my language with Aperion Audio. I actually have been drooling over Verus Grand Towers for about two years now and half of my posts are asking current owners how they like them. Suprise, they all love them. Would love to pick up a pair of the Bookshelfs but I have had a hard time finding them used anywhere (also a pretty good sign) as they are a bit north of my limit. Alast I have not listened to these either.

Sidenote - Dang it JJ, why does your living room have to look so freaking cool?

prerich - Is this the 2.1se or the original Swans with the dome on top? Is it in the Rosewood finish? Might be interested.

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Bmoney & JJ - You are speaking my language with Aperion Audio. I actually have been drooling over Verus Grand Towers for about two years now and half of my posts are asking current owners how they like them. Suprise, they all love them. Would love to pick up a pair of the Bookshelfs but I have had a hard time finding them used anywhere (also a pretty good sign) as they are a bit north of my limit. Alast I have not listened to these either.

Thanks everybody!
I would not dismiss them even if $100 more, if your CC permits it, you could even order the Verus Forte satellites to test out, 30 days free trial. And you can even compare to others at home. The reason I'm saying not to dismiss them is, like you, I have researched this line profusely with not a bad word, only extremely happy owners and the ones that returned them most often do so for a much more expensive speaker. In Canada we have to pay shipping back if not satisfied which kinda kills the offer. Otherwise I'd be trying some, even if I just want to upgrade later.


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I don't even HAVE a system or a place to put the Verus Grand bookshelves, and I want them.

Aperion comes so highly recommended across the board, it's the first thing that popped into my mind for you.

And thanks for the comments about my system,
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I don't even HAVE a system or a place to put the Verus Grand bookshelves, and I want them.

Aperion comes so highly recommended across the board, it's the first thing that popped into my mind for you.

And thanks for the comments about my system,
I could pm you a place to store them for a while

And pleasure JJ buddy
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Big Daddy - Comprehensive reply as always. I went through each of the listed links that you sent me. Very cool. I had not heard of Occam before. Those are some pretty speakers.

Out of the speakers listed any stand out to you specifically?

Great suggestion by the way of going to a local audio shop. I had gotten so wrapped up on getting something online to get a "Deal" that I forgot about that option. I got my towers from a local audio shop called Hawthorne Audio.

Iky? Hahaha!

rpatt & Ianvillaceran - I see great reviews for the BX2 so that may be a great option. One plus for it as well is that it is front ported. I will be placing these fairly close to the back wall so that may be very handy.

Bmoney - I love the look of the PSB's. I see that yours are mounted to the wall. How close are they and do you notice much of a difference between bringing them out a little and where they are now? I lean towards these but I have never heard them so its a little hard.

Bmoney & JJ - You are speaking my language with Aperion Audio. I actually have been drooling over Verus Grand Towers for about two years now and half of my posts are asking current owners how they like them. Suprise, they all love them. Would love to pick up a pair of the Bookshelfs but I have had a hard time finding them used anywhere (also a pretty good sign) as they are a bit north of my limit. Alast I have not listened to these either.

Sidenote - Dang it JJ, why does your living room have to look so freaking cool?

prerich - Is this the 2.1se or the original Swans with the dome on top? Is it in the Rosewood finish? Might be interested.

Thanks everybody!
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Original with the dome on top, I believe it's rosewood with black lacquer trim.
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I may be biased but Canton GLE 426 are great speakers for 600 $. They are hand made in Germany and are of great quality.
If you want take a look at my gallery to get an understanding of the craftsmanship of their speaker ( my speakers however are a few series higher then the gle series , but you can get an idea)
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Big Daddy - Comprehensive reply as always. I went through each of the listed links that you sent me. Very cool. I had not heard of Occam before. Those are some pretty speakers.

Out of the speakers listed any stand out to you specifically?

Great suggestion by the way of going to a local audio shop. I had gotten so wrapped up on getting something online to get a "Deal" that I forgot about that option. I got my towers from a local audio shop called Hawthorne Audio.

Iky? Hahaha!

rpatt & Ianvillaceran - I see great reviews for the BX2 so that may be a great option. One plus for it as well is that it is front ported. I will be placing these fairly close to the back wall so that may be very handy.

Bmoney - I love the look of the PSB's. I see that yours are mounted to the wall. How close are they and do you notice much of a difference between bringing them out a little and where they are now? I lean towards these but I have never heard them so its a little hard.

Bmoney & JJ - You are speaking my language with Aperion Audio. I actually have been drooling over Verus Grand Towers for about two years now and half of my posts are asking current owners how they like them. Suprise, they all love them. Would love to pick up a pair of the Bookshelfs but I have had a hard time finding them used anywhere (also a pretty good sign) as they are a bit north of my limit. Alast I have not listened to these either.

Sidenote - Dang it JJ, why does your living room have to look so freaking cool?

prerich - Is this the 2.1se or the original Swans with the dome on top? Is it in the Rosewood finish? Might be interested.

Thanks everybody!

I have them about 7" from the back wall. They do to sound muddy at all. I have not tried pulling hem out at all as this is the only way Ican have them setup right now. And believe me they are incredible sounding speakers. I am only trying the aperions due to curiosity. I like you have read only positives so I have to try hem myself. And being free and no risk why not?

Going back to the psb's I to a blind leap of faith with them and am blown away by them. Zero regrets!
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Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the posts. The internet has been down at my house (Comcast Maintenance tech had put a filter on my line as apparently I was feeding noise back into the system. Filter killed my signal back upstream ) for a couple of days otherwise I would have responded sooner.

I am going to be stoping by an few Audio shops on Saturday to see if I can listen to as many bookshelfs that we mentioned here. I am going to stop by the Original (ish) Magnolia HiFi and Hawthorne.

I don't think I am going to buy anything yet but who knows? Maybe I will hear something and wont be able to pass up the deal. Either way I will post back. If anyone has any more suggestions on speakers I am all ears.

Thanks!
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I will recommend the Dali Zensor 1. With the Experience I had with the Ikon 5 and the Lektor 6 I would assume this Zesor One offers tremendous value at $475.

You can read the Stereophile review. If you are looking for some great musicality the Zensor will certainly sing.

http://www.stereophile.com/content/d...-1-loudspeaker
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Music Direct has the Focal 706 Chorus speaker for $499.
http://www.musicdirect.com/p-41246-f...eakers-pr.aspx
There is the ARX 1b, Paradigm Mini Monitor, HTD Level 3's. I second Oiliver's recommendation of the Dali's, too. Almost forgot to mention Wharfdale and Monitor Audio Bronze and Silver.
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