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I don't think it will be identical, because it is two discs, meaning the film will be split over two discs. Whether that will cause much of an improvement, I doubt it. Nevertheless, I will be getting this, as I am a sheep.
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EDIT: And according to SPHE Japan's web site listing, the M4K will also have a lossless Japanese: DTS-HD MA 5.1 DUB track, while it appears that our BD set, and the current Japanese BD sets, have only a lossy Japanese: Dolby Digital 5.1 track. The same site states that both M4K discs are dual-layered, and the regular BD sets have one BD-50 and one BD-25. Last edited by McCrutchy; 10-18-2013 at 01:41 AM. |
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I received my set today:
Confirmation: Both discs in this set are region-free. Well, as you can see, this set is primed for a US release, with the inclusion of English and English SDH subtitles, as well as the French DUB track (but no French subs). The menus load in English, and the are the usual US copyright warnings as well. The audio is (almost) identical (bit for bit) with the regular BD, which has been par for the course with M4K BDs. The film is divided at its intermission. No extras. The only other difference to the regular BD is that the Japanese DUB has been upgraded to lossless DTS-HD MA 5.1. I sampled it, and it is an interesting bonus. I am reserving my comments for now, but my initial reaction is that I am impressed, and very satisfied with my purchase. Don't get me wrong, the differences are small, but I would say I'm actually more pleased than I thought I would be. Part 1 Code:
Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ --------------------- 00001.MPLS AVC 2:19:24 44,161,566,720 44,977,010,150 42.24 34.84 DTS-HD Master 5.1 2159Kbps (48kHz/16-bit) Code:
DISC INFO: Disc Title: Lawrence of Arabia 4K Disc 1 Disc Size: 44,977,010,150 bytes Protection: AACS BD-Java: Yes BDInfo: 0.5.8 PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00001.MPLS Length: 2:19:24.356 (h:m:s.ms) Size: 44,161,566,720 bytes Total Bitrate: 42.24 Mbps VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-4 AVC Video 34837 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1 AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- DTS-HD Master Audio English 2159 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2159 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit) Dolby Digital Audio French 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps DTS-HD Master Audio Japanese 2218 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2218 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit) SUBTITLES: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Presentation Graphics English 14.244 kbps Presentation Graphics English 18.341 kbps Presentation Graphics Japanese 15.374 kbps Presentation Graphics Japanese 0.025 kbps FILES: Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate ---- ------- ------ ---- ------------- 00001.M2TS 0:00:00.000 2:19:24.356 44,161,566,720 42,238 CHAPTERS: Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time ------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- 1 0:00:00.000 0:09:31.070 26,642 kbps 50,306 kbps 00:07:15.685 39,844 kbps 00:07:13.683 37,469 kbps 00:07:11.013 138,890 bytes 752,965 bytes 00:07:02.296 2 0:09:31.070 0:04:47.453 35,573 kbps 41,461 kbps 00:09:31.070 36,741 kbps 00:09:44.917 36,236 kbps 00:09:39.912 185,462 bytes 674,879 bytes 00:11:47.707 3 0:14:18.524 0:03:25.288 35,520 kbps 42,279 kbps 00:16:34.159 37,050 kbps 00:16:07.883 36,221 kbps 00:16:27.528 185,184 bytes 657,835 bytes 00:16:16.183 4 0:17:43.812 0:09:00.831 35,394 kbps 44,975 kbps 00:21:50.851 38,697 kbps 00:22:10.787 37,804 kbps 00:25:04.961 184,528 bytes 690,714 bytes 00:22:57.250 5 0:26:44.644 0:10:02.184 35,375 kbps 42,783 kbps 00:34:29.400 38,234 kbps 00:26:46.479 37,354 kbps 00:26:45.520 184,428 bytes 766,345 bytes 00:35:54.110 6 0:36:46.829 0:07:04.173 35,441 kbps 45,818 kbps 00:41:39.246 40,339 kbps 00:41:35.701 39,271 kbps 00:41:30.613 184,774 bytes 713,574 bytes 00:36:47.121 7 0:43:51.003 0:08:31.802 35,601 kbps 44,329 kbps 00:52:13.964 38,127 kbps 00:43:53.922 37,010 kbps 00:43:51.170 185,610 bytes 695,495 bytes 00:44:55.234 8 0:52:22.806 0:08:59.205 35,433 kbps 42,805 kbps 01:00:02.724 38,639 kbps 00:54:32.394 37,434 kbps 00:59:21.891 184,733 bytes 773,226 bytes 00:59:05.833 9 1:01:22.011 0:11:43.369 35,466 kbps 44,511 kbps 01:06:42.456 38,825 kbps 01:06:40.204 37,550 kbps 01:09:24.118 184,903 bytes 758,137 bytes 01:07:12.653 10 1:13:05.381 0:05:58.107 35,589 kbps 43,938 kbps 01:15:30.734 37,494 kbps 01:15:26.813 36,599 kbps 01:15:22.434 185,544 bytes 615,796 bytes 01:16:39.678 11 1:19:03.488 0:03:46.476 35,505 kbps 45,770 kbps 01:22:41.831 37,105 kbps 01:19:33.393 36,960 kbps 01:20:11.181 185,109 bytes 665,179 bytes 01:21:34.681 12 1:22:49.965 0:06:49.534 35,602 kbps 43,918 kbps 01:24:51.544 39,452 kbps 01:24:48.291 37,665 kbps 01:24:43.328 185,614 bytes 730,066 bytes 01:25:21.658 13 1:29:39.499 0:05:35.126 35,446 kbps 42,380 kbps 01:33:38.696 37,301 kbps 01:33:59.133 36,669 kbps 01:33:38.779 184,798 bytes 709,661 bytes 01:30:37.014 14 1:35:14.625 0:07:55.600 35,413 kbps 43,973 kbps 01:39:35.803 39,167 kbps 01:39:32.633 37,582 kbps 01:35:15.751 184,630 bytes 758,174 bytes 01:41:52.064 15 1:43:10.225 0:03:38.343 35,542 kbps 45,466 kbps 01:43:25.198 38,777 kbps 01:43:21.236 36,916 kbps 01:43:21.570 185,300 bytes 719,834 bytes 01:44:45.737 16 1:46:48.568 0:05:39.881 35,389 kbps 45,194 kbps 01:47:55.635 39,067 kbps 01:50:50.352 37,101 kbps 01:51:07.285 184,500 bytes 714,551 bytes 01:48:30.754 17 1:52:28.450 0:08:18.331 35,503 kbps 44,035 kbps 01:57:05.476 37,849 kbps 01:59:54.312 36,885 kbps 01:52:31.703 185,096 bytes 679,681 bytes 01:55:27.253 18 2:00:46.781 0:07:11.848 35,547 kbps 44,240 kbps 02:03:47.878 38,669 kbps 02:03:21.018 36,773 kbps 02:03:33.030 185,324 bytes 694,444 bytes 02:01:19.855 19 2:07:58.629 0:06:30.181 35,549 kbps 44,889 kbps 02:13:08.981 37,853 kbps 02:13:08.355 36,956 kbps 02:13:08.188 185,337 bytes 661,040 bytes 02:13:09.940 20 2:14:28.810 0:04:55.545 34,245 kbps 49,435 kbps 02:16:43.653 37,868 kbps 02:16:43.695 36,810 kbps 02:16:43.653 178,560 bytes 772,584 bytes 02:16:37.272 STREAM DIAGNOSTICS: File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets ---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- ----- 00001.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 8364.273 34,838 36,424,035,892 198,074,715 00001.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x86 DTS-HD MA eng (English) 8364.273 2,159 2,257,268,328 13,595,136 00001.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x81 AC3 fra (French) 8364.273 640 669,150,720 3,920,805 00001.M2TS 4354 (0x1102) 0x86 DTS-HD MA jpn (Japanese) 8364.273 2,218 2,318,747,052 13,843,641 00001.M2TS 4608 (0x1200) 0x90 PGS eng (English) 8364.273 14 14,892,469 88,553 00001.M2TS 4609 (0x1201) 0x90 PGS eng (English) 8364.273 18 19,176,420 111,069 00001.M2TS 4610 (0x1202) 0x90 PGS jpn (Japanese) 8364.273 15 16,073,954 93,872 00001.M2TS 4611 (0x1203) 0x90 PGS jpn (Japanese) 8364.273 0 25,762 146 Code:
Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ --------------------- 00001.MPLS AVC 1:27:36 27,755,046,912 28,563,670,558 42.24 34.87 DTS-HD Master 5.1 2143Kbps (48kHz/16-bit) Code:
DISC INFO: Disc Title: Lawrence of Arabia 4K Disc 2 Disc Size: 28,563,670,558 bytes Protection: AACS BD-Java: Yes BDInfo: 0.5.8 PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00001.MPLS Length: 1:27:36.251 (h:m:s.ms) Size: 27,755,046,912 bytes Total Bitrate: 42.24 Mbps VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-4 AVC Video 34872 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1 AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- DTS-HD Master Audio English 2143 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2143 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit) Dolby Digital Audio French 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps DTS-HD Master Audio Japanese 2181 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2181 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit) SUBTITLES: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Presentation Graphics English 17.506 kbps Presentation Graphics English 22.578 kbps Presentation Graphics Japanese 18.702 kbps Presentation Graphics Japanese 0.052 kbps FILES: Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate ---- ------- ------ ---- ------------- 00001.M2TS 0:00:00.000 1:27:36.251 27,755,046,912 42,243 CHAPTERS: Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time ------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- 1 0:00:00.000 0:10:41.223 28,936 kbps 51,711 kbps 00:04:14.796 39,750 kbps 00:04:14.671 37,384 kbps 00:04:14.671 150,847 bytes 655,164 bytes 00:09:18.975 2 0:10:41.223 0:07:28.823 35,943 kbps 48,662 kbps 00:11:32.274 39,067 kbps 00:11:36.153 37,709 kbps 00:11:32.066 187,388 bytes 697,966 bytes 00:17:41.018 3 0:18:10.047 0:06:02.320 35,906 kbps 45,508 kbps 00:21:15.148 38,359 kbps 00:19:58.864 37,424 kbps 00:19:57.779 187,198 bytes 685,072 bytes 00:18:27.523 4 0:24:12.367 0:07:35.121 35,976 kbps 45,116 kbps 00:29:39.152 38,172 kbps 00:29:35.106 37,145 kbps 00:24:17.831 187,561 bytes 708,507 bytes 00:31:05.613 5 0:31:47.488 0:07:46.090 35,954 kbps 43,800 kbps 00:39:15.227 39,165 kbps 00:39:13.809 37,705 kbps 00:39:08.721 187,448 bytes 711,841 bytes 00:39:26.197 6 0:39:33.579 0:06:27.929 35,850 kbps 47,390 kbps 00:40:26.507 39,122 kbps 00:40:24.463 37,589 kbps 00:40:19.375 186,907 bytes 763,911 bytes 00:43:18.429 7 0:46:01.508 0:08:52.490 35,970 kbps 45,378 kbps 00:51:30.629 38,691 kbps 00:51:26.666 37,241 kbps 00:51:24.081 187,531 bytes 691,721 bytes 00:49:59.454 8 0:54:53.999 0:03:51.648 35,890 kbps 44,566 kbps 00:58:26.252 38,518 kbps 00:58:22.999 37,623 kbps 00:55:51.598 187,114 bytes 671,736 bytes 00:54:55.667 9 0:58:45.647 0:09:27.024 35,963 kbps 47,716 kbps 01:06:58.973 38,466 kbps 01:00:54.150 37,462 kbps 01:03:59.418 187,496 bytes 749,931 bytes 01:05:30.092 10 1:08:12.671 0:10:07.481 35,894 kbps 47,625 kbps 01:11:19.817 39,342 kbps 01:11:15.813 38,415 kbps 01:11:23.821 187,136 bytes 745,810 bytes 01:16:41.221 11 1:18:20.153 0:05:35.460 35,968 kbps 51,516 kbps 01:21:30.093 39,111 kbps 01:21:26.172 37,606 kbps 01:21:21.084 187,523 bytes 738,194 bytes 01:21:30.969 12 1:23:55.613 0:03:40.637 30,967 kbps 47,986 kbps 01:24:12.172 38,662 kbps 01:24:12.172 37,729 kbps 01:24:12.046 161,481 bytes 527,234 bytes 01:23:57.282 STREAM DIAGNOSTICS: File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets ---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- ----- 00001.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 5256.168 34,873 22,912,171,090 124,596,749 00001.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x86 DTS-HD MA eng (English) 5256.168 2,143 1,408,241,888 8,495,314 00001.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x81 AC3 fra (French) 5256.168 640 420,500,480 2,463,870 00001.M2TS 4354 (0x1102) 0x86 DTS-HD MA jpn (Japanese) 5256.168 2,181 1,432,928,848 8,599,996 00001.M2TS 4608 (0x1200) 0x90 PGS eng (English) 5256.168 18 11,502,031 68,079 00001.M2TS 4609 (0x1201) 0x90 PGS eng (English) 5256.168 23 14,834,345 85,652 00001.M2TS 4610 (0x1202) 0x90 PGS jpn (Japanese) 5256.168 19 12,288,051 71,542 00001.M2TS 4611 (0x1203) 0x90 PGS jpn (Japanese) 5256.168 0 34,017 198 |
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How is the difference is quality? Is there a jump in clarity, even if slightly or does the high bitrate just better alleviate marcoblocking issues?
Probably going to buy, even if to just have a easier accessible disk that having to break into my collectors box set every time I want to watch ha. |
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I don't think it's worth it. The copious extras are all gone (which is the main point for me), the movie is divided onto 2 discs now, and the picture quality is barely noticeably improved. And the audio is exactly the same.
I don't understand why Sony 4K titles don't upgrade their audio. Spider-Man 1 could've been improved as well as Taxi Driver, but they did nothing with them. |
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