The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) 4K UHD

[Pieter V]

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 4K Blu-ray

Specifications of UHD 4K Blu-ray:

Language / sound: German: Auro-3D 13.1, Dolby Atmos, DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 Surround, DTS 2.0 Mono // English: Auro-3D 13.1, Dolby Atmos, DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 Surround, DTS 2.0 Stereo, DTS 2.0 mono // music and effects DTS-HD 7.1 // Four audio commentaries
picture format: 4K (3840 x 2160 pixels) - 4-fold resolution of Full HD
subtitle: main movie: German for the hearing impaired, English, German; Audio commentary: German


Technical specifications of Blu-ray:

Language / sound: German: DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 Surround, DTS 2.0 Mono // English: DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 Surround, DTS 2.0 Stereo, DTS 2.0 Mono // Music and effects DTS-HD 7.1 // Four audio commentaries
image format 1080p24 Full HD (1.78: 1) - Digitally remastered in 4K
subtitles: main movie: German for the hearing impaired, English, German; Audio commentary: German

Amenities bonus Blu-ray:

- Documentaries and Interviews "The Chainsaw Business", "From grandfather sewing box", "The chainsaw cut", "The sacred soil of Horrors"
- documentaries "TCM - A Family Portrait", "The Shocking Truth", "Flesh Wounds" and "Off the Hook"
- A tour of the TCM-house with Gunnar Hansen
- Deleted scenes and outtakes
- "the Shocking Truth" -Outtakes
- 40th Anniversary trailer, trailer (USA, D), US TV & Radio Spots

[peterraes]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Amazon.de - pre-order

Will update this topic soon.

really excited about this,a catalogue title wich was restored...pray they dont feel it needs additional "pop" (HDR) or this will be ruined!
Just give us the gritty look as it originally is (plenty of thick grain!),4K yes,WCG yes 10 bit yes,no HDR and no DNR ffs

[meremortal]

Wasn't this filmed in 16mm? And would that even benefit in 4k? I remember Kevin Smith blasting the Clerks blu ray release and saying it was an unnecessary cash grab for the medium.

[peterraes]

Originally Posted by meremortal

Wasn't this filmed in 16mm? And would that even benefit in 4k? I remember Kevin Smith blasting Clerks for even a blu ray release and thinking it was an unnecessary cash grab.

"The new version of the film will be released in theaters this summer with a brand new 4K transfer, roughly four times the resolution of today’s more commonly used 2K for cinema. This is the only transfer of The Texas Chain Saw Massacre to go back to the original 16mm A/B rolls, the actual film that rolled through the cameras."
sweet aint it^^

[bailey1987]

Well I can't believe that, if that comes out here it will be one of the first I buy. I'm a bit annoyed that all the films I want are all released in other countries first Ghostbusters 1 and 2 then Texas Chainsaw Massacre. It's in Auro 3D and Atmos!

[42041]

Originally Posted by peterraes

"The new version of the film will be released in theaters this summer with a brand new 4K transfer, roughly four times the resolution of today’s more commonly used 2K for cinema. This is the only transfer of The Texas Chain Saw Massacre to go back to the original 16mm A/B rolls, the actual film that rolled through the cameras."
sweet aint it^^

You can scan it at 16k if you want, that doesn't mean 1970s 16mm Ektachrome can actually resolve anything close to it. I doubt there will be any meaningful resolution advantage vs 1080p here.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by meremortal

Wasn't this filmed in 16mm? And would that even benefit in 4k? I remember Kevin Smith blasting the Clerks blu ray release and saying it was an unnecessary cash grab for the medium.

And yet they made Amy look worse...

And 16mm can give a ton of detail due to a 4k master:
http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=2&x=...1&l=1&i=0&go=1

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by 42041

You can scan it at 16k if you want, that doesn't mean 1970s 16mm Ektachrome can actually resolve anything close to it. I doubt there will be any meaningful resolution advantage vs 1080p here.

And yet the new 4k master resolves more detail

[42041]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

And yet the new 4k master resolves more detail

Sure, but the modern scan from first-generation materials has more to do with that than the master being 4K. This will be a tale of sharply diminishing returns.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by 42041

Sure, but the modern scan from first-generation materials has more to do with that than the master being 4K. This will be a tale of sharply diminishing returns.

The previous scan was modern

[BozQ]

Hmm. But it isn't clear if the Dolby Atmos and/or Auro 3D soundtracks will only be on the UHD BD or BD or both.

[ray0414]

turbine media has commented on the facebook page saying that it does NOT have HDR.

[MattPerdue]

Originally Posted by ray0414

turbine media has commented on the facebook page saying that it does NOT have HDR.

I'll believe it when I see it but if so this could be a really great release. Even more so if it has the original audio like the 40th anniversary BD had.

[I KEEL YOU]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

And yet they made Amy look worse...

And 16mm can give a ton of detail due to a 4k master:
http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=2&x=...1&l=1&i=0&go=1

LOL, this is because the first 2K master was terrible and was older than dirt. A modern 2K restoration would've given the same improvement. Way to post an extremely misleading conclusion. Here, I can do the same:

Criterion = 2K master, Studio Canal = 4K master - Conclusion: 2K > 4K

Originally Posted by dvdmike;

The previous scan was modern

That blu ray release ITSELF is from 2008. And it has the exact same master which was used on the Ultimate Edition DVD from 2006:

http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=287...0&a=1&go=1&l=1

We know that the scan is not newer than 2006. At LEAST, but is probably even older. So how the hell can that be considered "modern"? Here are some differences between old 2K masters and 2K masters that are really modern:

http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x=...5&l=1&i=0&go=1

http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=229...0&a=1&go=1&l=1

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by 42041

Sure, but the modern scan from first-generation materials has more to do with that than the master being 4K. This will be a tale of sharply diminishing returns.

How quickly we forget the other visual benefits of UHD Blu-ray.

[42041]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

How quickly we forget the other visual benefits of UHD Blu-ray.

Well, I can live without an HDR revision of TCM (plus, color reversal film stock has very limited dynamic range to begin with), it's not exactly pushing the rec709 color gamut, and since 16mm grain is a pretty serious dither, 10 bit color doesn't give you much, so what else? Maybe better compression? I don't really see the case for this in UHD being a high priority upgrade, but that's just me.

[montyb]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

Well I can't believe that, if that comes out here it will be one of the first I buy. I'm a bit annoyed that all the films I want are all released in other countries first Ghostbusters 1 and 2 then Texas Chainsaw Massacre. It's in Auro 3D and Atmos!

It doesn't matter what country they come out in. UHD blu ray discs are not region coded. Just the blu ray that accompanies the UHD disc (unless the standard blu ray is region free).
So import away bailey1987 if you are referring to the 4K UHD disc.

[BozQ]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

Well I can't believe that, if that comes out here it will be one of the first I buy. I'm a bit annoyed that all the films I want are all released in other countries first Ghostbusters 1 and 2 then Texas Chainsaw Massacre. It's in Auro 3D and Atmos!

You know what's more annoying? I live in Singapore but 90% of my Blu-rays are from the US. Because believe it or not, it's cheaper to buy it off Amazon than a local store here.

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[DarknessBDJM]

Originally Posted by meremortal

Wasn't this filmed in 16mm? And would that even benefit in 4k? I remember Kevin Smith blasting the Clerks blu ray release and saying it was an unnecessary cash grab for the medium.

16mm negative has a higher analogous resolution, greater color gamut/range, three dimensional composition, dynamic range, etc. than pure digital 4K. The main problem comparing film on digital vs. native analog film is that the conversion of film to digital is quite lossy, even with modern scanners. That being said, I'll bet on a UHD disk of a 16mm film looking quite a bit better than a 1080p release considering the large bump in resolution, color depth, etc.

I KEEL YOU, you are comparing a lot more than a 4K scan vs. a 1080p or 2K scan, there's also the issue of encoding, use of post processing filtering (as the non-Criterion disk clearly has plenty of), etc. The old TCSM scan still holds up well to modern 1080p and 2K scans.

[42041]

Originally Posted by DarknessBDJM

16mm negative has a higher analogous resolution, greater color gamut/range, three dimensional composition, dynamic range, etc. than pure digital 4K.

Can we stop throwing out these ludicrous film resolution specs? It absolutely does not, by any meaningful metric (it might take more than 4K to resolve all the gory molecular details of the emulsion, but when you're resolving any additional image detail, who cares?). Not super16 film from 2016, and especially not 16mm film (not a negative in this case - it was shot on color reversal Ektachrome) from 1974.