Blu-ray owners - pledge with me against giving in to HD DVD... - Blu-ray Forum

ReduxInflux · 08-29-2007, 12:15 PM

Here's the deal. I understand that there are those of you who own both an HD DVD player and a Blu-ray player. Nothing you can do about that. From a statistical, reason-based standpoint, I can totally understand and encourage early HD DVD adopters to buy a Blu-ray player. The reasons are obvious (studio support, larger and more diversified competitive manufacturer base, superior technical specs and exciting new technology that's on the horizon, growing PS3 sales, continued disc sale dominance, etc.) It is therefore reasonable to convert from HD DVD to Blu. ON THE CONTRARY...it is absolutely inexcusable to buy an HD-DVD player if you are solely a Blu-ray player owner. By doing so, you are only hurting all of us...you are hurting the market and in a transcendental round-about way, yourself. Because you are willfully contributing to the schizophrenia that has arrested the HD home entertainment market. By giving money to a format that is competing against your own, you are perpetuating a war that doesn't need to exist. Increasing the number of casualties that will have been in vain. You, in essence, are pulling a Paramount. I say if you believe in Blu, stick with it 'til the end. If HD DVD wins, I'm all for it....but I will not be the one to push it over the edge as I have already put my money on Blu. My commitment stands. If HD DVD wins, it will be by its own merits in grabbing the fencesitters. I will let the public at large decide that. (But I will do my best to persuade them to buy Blu) When I bought a PS3, I declared myself off the fence and in Blu's corner. When you bought a Blu-Ray player, you did the same. If we want a winner...if we truly support Blu-ray for what it is...if we believe in its technology and if its what we want to succeed DVD, then we have to persevere in absolute fidelity come hell or high water. Give me Blu or Give me death. Otherwise, what's the point?

Even though I am slightly tempted to buy an HD DVD player due to its cheap pricing and the exclusivity of two of my favorite movies (Children of Men and Transformers), I hereby pledge not to propagate a war that is keeping the HD market stagnant. I will stand by Blu no matter what. Will you?

A friend once told me its either ALL ass or NO ass. NEVER half-ass!

(This was instigated by a conversation I had with my coworkers tonight regarding the state of the format war and those who might be tempted to venture into HD DVD territory as a result of player price drops and purchase incentives re: amazon)

aygie · 08-29-2007, 12:20 PM

Yep

jhansla · 08-29-2007, 12:37 PM

Count me in.

MOONPHASE · 08-29-2007, 12:39 PM

im in

patrick99 · 08-29-2007, 12:44 PM

In September of last year I bought both a Blu-ray player and an HD DVD player, and I eventually bought about 40 HD DVDs. I always preferred BD, but at the beginning I was open to HD DVD.

Earlier this year, however, I decided to stop buying HD DVDs, and I even took the step of unplugging my HD DVD player and not watching the HD DVDs I already owned. I have lost count of the number of BDs I've bought.

To me, BD clearly represents the superior technology because of disc capacity and higher bitrate levels and the resulting potential for superior PQ, which is the only reason I got into this in the first place.

I have no plans to alter my BD buying and watching habits, and I have no plans to resume watching or buying HD DVDs.

I have no intention of giving any encouragement to the clearly inferior technology.

ReduxInflux · 08-29-2007, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrick99

In September of last year I bought both a Blu-ray player and an HD DVD player, and I eventually bought about 40 HD DVDs. I always preferred BD, but at the beginning I was open to HD DVD.

Earlier this year, however, I decided to stop buying HD DVDs, and I even took the step of unplugging my HD DVD player and not watching the HD DVDs I already owned. I have lost count of the number of BDs I've bought.

To me, BD clearly represents the superior technology because of disc capacity and higher bitrate levels and the resulting potential for superior PQ, which is the only reason I got into this in the first place.

I have no plans to alter my BD buying and watching habits, and I have no plans to resume watching or buying HD DVDs.

I have no intention of giving any encouragement to the clearly inferior technology.

hey...thanks for sharing that. awesome post. love hearing it straight from honest people's own experiences.

buckshot · 08-29-2007, 12:45 PM

I must admit I have been tempted by the low priced hd dvd players and caught myself looking at them longingly at frys the other day. all the talk had gotten to me about paradreamuni being hd dvd. as I stood there staring longer and longer I became angry and picked an hd dvd player and hit somebody with it. ok maybe that didn't happen but I did feel dirty after even considering getting one of those pieces of crap. I feel so dirty. and any of you deffecter should feel dirty too.

its like growing up eating awesome mexican food at places like alejandro's, alberto's, sombrero's, rigo's or carnitas uruapan. then finding yourself one day standing outside a taco bell thinking ''wow a chalupa. that sounds good.'' its a disgusting thought.

ReduxInflux · 08-29-2007, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckshot

its like growing up eating awesome mexican food at places like alejandro's, alberto's, sombrero's, rigo's or carnitas uruapan. then finding yourself one day standing outside a taco bell thinking ''wow a chalupa. that sounds good.'' its a disgusting thought.

ha ha ha. hilarious. the whole post. but this especially

Zaphod · 08-29-2007, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckshot

I must admit I have been tempted by the low priced hd dvd players and caught myself looking at them longingly at frys the other day. all the talk had gotten to me about paradreamuni being hd dvd. as I stood there staring longer and longer I became angry and picked an hd dvd player and hit somebody with it. ok maybe that didn't happen but I did feel dirty after even considering getting one of those pieces of crap. I feel so dirty. and any of you deffecter should feel dirty too.

its like growing up eating awesome mexican food at places like alejandro's, alberto's, sombrero's, rigo's or carnitas uruapan. then finding yourself one day standing outside a taco bell thinking ''wow a chalupa. that sounds good.'' its a disgusting thought.

LMAO! I always look forward to your very insightful posts...

scook · 08-29-2007, 01:00 PM

In, I will see you in hell HD DVD

-Cook

JAMCAS50 · 08-29-2007, 01:14 PM

I think your all panicing !

the facts are :

BD is outselling HDDVD
There is a better and bigger selection of software on BD

Threads like this belong to hddvd owners talking about HDDVD not BD.

Regards

jayd · 08-29-2007, 01:15 PM

I have Blu blood running through my veins, never will I buy an HD-DVD player.

phil · 08-29-2007, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckshot

I must admit I have been tempted by the low priced hd dvd players and caught myself looking at them longingly at frys the other day. all the talk had gotten to me about paradreamuni being hd dvd. as I stood there staring longer and longer I became angry and picked an hd dvd player and hit somebody with it. ok maybe that didn't happen but I did feel dirty after even considering getting one of those pieces of crap. I feel so dirty. and any of you deffecter should feel dirty too.

its like growing up eating awesome mexican food at places like alejandro's, alberto's, sombrero's, rigo's or carnitas uruapan. then finding yourself one day standing outside a taco bell thinking ''wow a chalupa. that sounds good.'' its a disgusting thought.

Sorry but uhh Mexican Food is garbage anyway you look at it, LOL.

It's always Cheapest bill at the end of the day isn't it? Fast Food or in a Resturant.

I only own both because I feel that if I wait out like some of you people in here are, I'm worried that both will be dead by the end of the format war. You gotta admit that when VHS and Beta came out, Technology wasn't taking off like it is currently. If you're involoved at all with computers or are in the computer world at all, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. Things are getting out dated REAL QUICKLY. Meaning that yeah your HDTV that you're loving right now probably has a better chance of becoming out dated then this war ending. But that's just my 2 cents.

Sonny · 08-29-2007, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil

Sorry but uhh Mexican Food is garbage anyway you look at it, LOL.

It's always Cheapest bill at the end of the day isn't it? Fast Food or in a Resturant.

I only own both because I feel that if I wait out like some of you people in here are, I'm worried that both will be dead by the end of the format war. You gotta admit that when VHS and Beta came out, Technology wasn't taking off like it is currently. If you're involoved at all with computers or are in the computer world at all, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. Things are getting out dated REAL QUICKLY. Meaning that yeah your HDTV that you're loving right now probably has a better chance of becoming out dated then this war ending. But that's just my 2 cents.

FUNCK YOU MEXICAN FOOD IS THE BEST & SO IS BLU-RAY & YOU KNOW IT PLIL LOVES MEXICAN FOOD,DONT YOU PHLI COME ON YOU CAN SAY IT,ITS OOOOOOOOOOOK.

Kousakuya · 08-29-2007, 06:38 PM

Sure, I'll pledge.

I bought a PS3 not too long ago, and I was amazed at the quality of Blu Ray. I'm new to the home theater scene so to speak. I'm also very glad something high end as Blu Ray was affordable for someone in college, like myself. I own only a 32 inch, 1080p HDTV LCD with an HDMI input...pretty bare bones considering what everyone else on this forum has.

Regardless, I'd like to see more Blu Ray movies out there, especially the stranger ones like Tekkonkinkreet... very excited about it. I will stay Blu Ray exclusive, I will not compromise with DVDs or buy any Paramount and Universal products instead opting to pirate their movies until they switch over. I'm looking at you, Hot Fuzz.

buckshot · 08-29-2007, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil

Sorry but uhh Mexican Food is garbage anyway you look at it, LOL.

It's always Cheapest bill at the end of the day isn't it? Fast Food or in a Resturant.

I only own both because I feel that if I wait out like some of you people in here are, I'm worried that both will be dead by the end of the format war. You gotta admit that when VHS and Beta came out, Technology wasn't taking off like it is currently. If you're involoved at all with computers or are in the computer world at all, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. Things are getting out dated REAL QUICKLY. Meaning that yeah your HDTV that you're loving right now probably has a better chance of becoming out dated then this war ending. But that's just my 2 cents.

go ahead and enjoy your chalupa. if you don't like mexican food you must not have ever had it. if you've had del taco, taco bell, or any national chain you haven't had mexican food. you don't put ground beef in a burrito or a taco (slaps head). I forgot to give a shout out to alvaro's. oh so many nights coming home from wherever at 5 a.m. and wanting some carnitas.

sonny. that was hilarious.

just saying that going from blu to hd is like devolving. it makes no sense to take a step back. its like moving on up to the east side, to a deluxe apartment in the sky, then deciding to get a timeshare in an industrial park.

ok i'm out of analogies. and I keep getting hungry.

AlaskaDon · 08-29-2007, 07:53 PM

I was very tempted to pick up an HD DVD player back when they first had the big price drop (around Father's Day?) but I managed to resist. The decision was based on all of the things that the OP mentioned. I won't be putting any money into Toshiba's/Microsoft's pocket anytime soon. Financially supporting HD DVD in any fashion provides the fuel to accomplish things like paying off Paramount. It hurts everybody in the long run.

phil · 08-30-2007, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckshot

go ahead and enjoy your chalupa. if you don't like mexican food you must not have ever had it. if you've had del taco, taco bell, or any national chain you haven't had mexican food. you don't put ground beef in a burrito or a taco (slaps head). I forgot to give a shout out to alvaro's. oh so many nights coming home from wherever at 5 a.m. and wanting some carnitas.

sonny. that was hilarious.

just saying that going from blu to hd is like devolving. it makes no sense to take a step back. its like moving on up to the east side, to a deluxe apartment in the sky, then deciding to get a timeshare in an industrial park.

ok i'm out of analogies. and I keep getting hungry.

The next time you're eating Mexican Food while drunk or high, and you're stuffing this Burrito from Chipotle down your throat late one drunk night. Just think of how it's going to come out the following night

You may wonder how something of this size can even fit into your system, much less your stomach, but just think of what it's going to look like when you shit it out the following night.

Now that's a reason in itself to get drunk again I suppose, eat some more beans.

Sushisake · 08-29-2007, 05:04 PM

I have owned blu-ray about three weeks now - have purchased upwards of 25 discs - but to be honest with you, I am starting to gettired of all the goodies that will be coming out only on HD.It is SO HARD not to go neutral - as poster JIMMY said - we need to care for ourselves, not for the format war that these damn companies caused. I want to do theright thing, but I also know that I am paying good money to enjoy HDTV - period - for myself.

glenn22 · 08-29-2007, 05:10 PM

I have no plans to buy an HD-DVD player. I am quite sure that people will pick the better technology (Blu-ray) and actually already have (sales at 2:1). Paramount moving to HD-DVD is crappy, but they don't exactly have the greatest movies anyways.

I think what people need to remember is that when Blu-ray does win the format war, all the movies that you can't get right now on BD, will become available, and maybe even in better form than their current HD-DVD counterparts.

08-29-2007, 12:15 PM	#1
ReduxInflux Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:orange county, ca Blu-ray reviews:22 Trading Score:3	Blu-ray owners - pledge with me against giving in to HD DVD... Here's the deal. I understand that there are those of you who own both an HD DVD player and a Blu-ray player. Nothing you can do about that. From a statistical, reason-based standpoint, I can totally understand and encourage early HD DVD adopters to buy a Blu-ray player. The reasons are obvious (studio support, larger and more diversified competitive manufacturer base, superior technical specs and exciting new technology that's on the horizon, growing PS3 sales, continued disc sale dominance, etc.) It is therefore reasonable to convert from HD DVD to Blu. ON THE CONTRARY...it is absolutely inexcusable to buy an HD-DVD player if you are solely a Blu-ray player owner. By doing so, you are only hurting all of us...you are hurting the market and in a transcendental round-about way, yourself. Because you are willfully contributing to the schizophrenia that has arrested the HD home entertainment market. By giving money to a format that is competing against your own, you are perpetuating a war that doesn't need to exist. Increasing the number of casualties that will have been in vain. You, in essence, are pulling a Paramount. I say if you believe in Blu, stick with it 'til the end. If HD DVD wins, I'm all for it....but I will not be the one to push it over the edge as I have already put my money on Blu. My commitment stands. If HD DVD wins, it will be by its own merits in grabbing the fencesitters. I will let the public at large decide that. (But I will do my best to persuade them to buy Blu) When I bought a PS3, I declared myself off the fence and in Blu's corner. When you bought a Blu-Ray player, you did the same. If we want a winner...if we truly support Blu-ray for what it is...if we believe in its technology and if its what we want to succeed DVD, then we have to persevere in absolute fidelity come hell or high water. Give me Blu or Give me death. Otherwise, what's the point? Even though I am slightly tempted to buy an HD DVD player due to its cheap pricing and the exclusivity of two of my favorite movies (Children of Men and Transformers), I hereby pledge not to propagate a war that is keeping the HD market stagnant. I will stand by Blu no matter what. Will you? A friend once told me its either ALL ass or NO ass. NEVER half-ass! (This was instigated by a conversation I had with my coworkers tonight regarding the state of the format war and those who might be tempted to venture into HD DVD territory as a result of player price drops and purchase incentives re: amazon) Last edited by ReduxInflux; 09-04-2007 at 07:42 AM.

08-29-2007, 01:00 PM	#10
scook Senior Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Rochester, NY Home Theater Gallery:14 Blu-ray collection:171	In In, I will see you in hell HD DVD -Cook

08-29-2007, 05:04 PM	#19
Sushisake Active Member Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray collection:1806 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:3	Help me to be strong - I have owned blu-ray about three weeks now - have purchased upwards of 25 discs - but to be honest with you, I am starting to gettired of all the goodies that will be coming out only on HD.It is SO HARD not to go neutral - as poster JIMMY said - we need to care for ourselves, not for the format war that these damn companies caused. I want to do theright thing, but I also know that I am paying good money to enjoy HDTV - period - for myself.

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08-29-2007, 12:20 PM	#2
aygie Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:PSN Network: Aygie Blu-ray collection:99	Yep

08-29-2007, 12:37 PM	#3
jhansla Expert Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Orlando, Florida Blu-ray collection:257 Trading Score:3	Count me in.

08-29-2007, 12:39 PM	#4
MOONPHASE Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Jun 2007 Location:California 4K collection:8 Blu-ray collection:520 DVD collection:820 Blu-ray reviews:18 Trading Score:29	im in

08-29-2007, 12:44 PM	#5
patrick99 Special Member Member since:Jun 2007	In September of last year I bought both a Blu-ray player and an HD DVD player, and I eventually bought about 40 HD DVDs. I always preferred BD, but at the beginning I was open to HD DVD. Earlier this year, however, I decided to stop buying HD DVDs, and I even took the step of unplugging my HD DVD player and not watching the HD DVDs I already owned. I have lost count of the number of BDs I've bought. To me, BD clearly represents the superior technology because of disc capacity and higher bitrate levels and the resulting potential for superior PQ, which is the only reason I got into this in the first place. I have no plans to alter my BD buying and watching habits, and I have no plans to resume watching or buying HD DVDs. I have no intention of giving any encouragement to the clearly inferior technology.

08-29-2007, 12:45 PM	#7
buckshot Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Location:san die ego Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	I must admit I have been tempted by the low priced hd dvd players and caught myself looking at them longingly at frys the other day. all the talk had gotten to me about paradreamuni being hd dvd. as I stood there staring longer and longer I became angry and picked an hd dvd player and hit somebody with it. ok maybe that didn't happen but I did feel dirty after even considering getting one of those pieces of crap. I feel so dirty. and any of you deffecter should feel dirty too. its like growing up eating awesome mexican food at places like alejandro's, alberto's, sombrero's, rigo's or carnitas uruapan. then finding yourself one day standing outside a taco bell thinking ''wow a chalupa. that sounds good.'' its a disgusting thought.

08-29-2007, 01:14 PM	#11
JAMCAS50 Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Sydney Australia	I think your all panicing ! the facts are : BD is outselling HDDVD There is a better and bigger selection of software on BD Threads like this belong to hddvd owners talking about HDDVD not BD. Regards

08-29-2007, 01:15 PM	#12
jayd Active Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Manchester, UK	I have Blu blood running through my veins, never will I buy an HD-DVD player.

08-29-2007, 06:38 PM	#15
Kousakuya Member Member since:Aug 2007	Sure, I'll pledge. I bought a PS3 not too long ago, and I was amazed at the quality of Blu Ray. I'm new to the home theater scene so to speak. I'm also very glad something high end as Blu Ray was affordable for someone in college, like myself. I own only a 32 inch, 1080p HDTV LCD with an HDMI input...pretty bare bones considering what everyone else on this forum has. Regardless, I'd like to see more Blu Ray movies out there, especially the stranger ones like Tekkonkinkreet... very excited about it. I will stay Blu Ray exclusive, I will not compromise with DVDs or buy any Paramount and Universal products instead opting to pirate their movies until they switch over. I'm looking at you, Hot Fuzz.

08-29-2007, 07:53 PM	#17
AlaskaDon Special Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Tennessee Blu-ray collection:-	I was very tempted to pick up an HD DVD player back when they first had the big price drop (around Father's Day?) but I managed to resist. The decision was based on all of the things that the OP mentioned. I won't be putting any money into Toshiba's/Microsoft's pocket anytime soon. Financially supporting HD DVD in any fashion provides the fuel to accomplish things like paying off Paramount. It hurts everybody in the long run.

08-29-2007, 05:10 PM	#20
glenn22 Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Vancouver, Canada	I have no plans to buy an HD-DVD player. I am quite sure that people will pick the better technology (Blu-ray) and actually already have (sales at 2:1). Paramount moving to HD-DVD is crappy, but they don't exactly have the greatest movies anyways. I think what people need to remember is that when Blu-ray does win the format war, all the movies that you can't get right now on BD, will become available, and maybe even in better form than their current HD-DVD counterparts.

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