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TurboNutter · 06-23-2006, 09:23 AM

Does anyone think these "up-conversion" dvd players are worth it? Best Buy had a BD player on display, but wasn't showing a movie on it. The sales child tried selling me the Samsung HD up-conversion player. If these can put out 1080i, and thats all that my tv can put out, would it be worth it? At least in the meantime till my wallet allows a BD.

BTBuck1 · 06-23-2006, 04:14 PM

I went with upconversion a couple of months ago to tide me over til blu ray would come out. Now it's looking like my beloved sony bdps-1 wont come out til late october, so im glad to have bought the sony dvp-nc85h/b 5 disc upconvert. I have a cleaner picture with improved contrast/color. It's not HD but it's half way there IMO. And with over 300 regular dvd's i can't just toss out the format when BR comes out. so i would say, it's up to you. Upconverts are certainly cheap enough now and some cheaper ones even include an hdmi cable (almost worth the price of the player alone) if you've got a secondary tv to kick the dvd player to once the Blu ray comes out that you want then go for it .Sony & oppo probably make the best upconvert players... Otherwise just buy the dang samsung blu ray it does both =)

JTK · 06-23-2006, 04:14 PM

I wouldn't touch any Samsung DVD player at any price. Samsung has never yet made a good DVD player.

Yes, upconversion players are worth it 9/10 times, but if you're only going to spend <$200 on one...maybe not.

At that price level, I'd either recommend the Oppos, a couple of Sonys, and maybe the Panny s97...although I'd steer clear of any player that uses the Faroudja FLI23xx chip, because it's fatally plagued with a macroblocking issue that I find intolerable.

The Don · 06-23-2006, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JTK

I wouldn't touch any Samsung DVD player at any price. Samsung has never yet made a good DVD player.

Yes, upconversion players are worth it 9/10 times, but if you're only going to spend <$200 on one...maybe not.

At that price level, I'd either recommend the Oppos, a couple of Sonys, and maybe the Panny s97...although I'd steer clear of any player that uses the Faroudja FLI23xx chip, because it's fatally plagued with a macroblocking issue that I find intolerable.

the most recent Samsung upconversion player actually isn't that bad...

I have the 2 previous one's and they work fine....the 1st one has a tricky hook-up and is glitchy....but the most recent on (3rd generation for upconversion) isn't that bad....if you wanted a 100.00 upconversion player...I'd actually recommend it...

the other 2 are ehh....and I hate samsung players after dealing with the 1st one...but the latest is not bad...

Psiweaver · 06-23-2006, 04:54 PM

the samsungs all have horrible black levels though. I'd stay away from it if i were you. I'd recommend getting a nice upconverter for now somehting like the denon dvd 1920 or the 2910.

georgir · 06-26-2006, 08:32 PM

i really don't get this.

if your tv is 1080 lines, it will upconvert whatever signal is fed to it anyway. so spending a grand just to get that same upconversion done a step earlier, in the player itself, seems dumb as hell to me.

now a completely different question is if the quality of the upconversion done by the TV is worse than that in the player - if that is the case, you've just bought a crap TV.

i don't have a HD set, nor have i even read anything about the available options out there, so it might be the case that all currently available sets are crap when it comes to upconversion. in that case, spending more on the player is your only option.

Psiweaver · 06-26-2006, 08:47 PM

a nice upconverting dvd player will most likely do a better job than your tvs scaler since then most likley your tv won't have to scale the image to display it. the only time this might be silly is if you had a runco or something simliar and were using there video scaler that was matched to your plasma or projector.

06-23-2006, 09:23 AM	#1
TurboNutter Member Member since:Apr 2006 Location:New York	$100 vs $1000 ? Does anyone think these "up-conversion" dvd players are worth it? Best Buy had a BD player on display, but wasn't showing a movie on it. The sales child tried selling me the Samsung HD up-conversion player. If these can put out 1080i, and thats all that my tv can put out, would it be worth it? At least in the meantime till my wallet allows a BD.

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06-23-2006, 04:14 PM	#2
BTBuck1 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Oceanside, CA. Blu-ray collection:507 DVD collection:1	I went with upconversion a couple of months ago to tide me over til blu ray would come out. Now it's looking like my beloved sony bdps-1 wont come out til late october, so im glad to have bought the sony dvp-nc85h/b 5 disc upconvert. I have a cleaner picture with improved contrast/color. It's not HD but it's half way there IMO. And with over 300 regular dvd's i can't just toss out the format when BR comes out. so i would say, it's up to you. Upconverts are certainly cheap enough now and some cheaper ones even include an hdmi cable (almost worth the price of the player alone) if you've got a secondary tv to kick the dvd player to once the Blu ray comes out that you want then go for it .Sony & oppo probably make the best upconvert players... Otherwise just buy the dang samsung blu ray it does both =)

06-23-2006, 04:14 PM	#3
JTK Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2006 Location:www.blurayoasis.com	I wouldn't touch any Samsung DVD player at any price. Samsung has never yet made a good DVD player. Yes, upconversion players are worth it 9/10 times, but if you're only going to spend <$200 on one...maybe not. At that price level, I'd either recommend the Oppos, a couple of Sonys, and maybe the Panny s97...although I'd steer clear of any player that uses the Faroudja FLI23xx chip, because it's fatally plagued with a macroblocking issue that I find intolerable.

06-23-2006, 04:54 PM	#5
Psiweaver Special Member Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Los Angeles,CA	the samsungs all have horrible black levels though. I'd stay away from it if i were you. I'd recommend getting a nice upconverter for now somehting like the denon dvd 1920 or the 2910.

06-26-2006, 08:32 PM	#6
georgir Active Member Member since:Mar 2005	i really don't get this. if your tv is 1080 lines, it will upconvert whatever signal is fed to it anyway. so spending a grand just to get that same upconversion done a step earlier, in the player itself, seems dumb as hell to me. now a completely different question is if the quality of the upconversion done by the TV is worse than that in the player - if that is the case, you've just bought a crap TV. i don't have a HD set, nor have i even read anything about the available options out there, so it might be the case that all currently available sets are crap when it comes to upconversion. in that case, spending more on the player is your only option.

06-26-2006, 08:47 PM	#7
Psiweaver Special Member Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Los Angeles,CA	a nice upconverting dvd player will most likely do a better job than your tvs scaler since then most likley your tv won't have to scale the image to display it. the only time this might be silly is if you had a runco or something simliar and were using there video scaler that was matched to your plasma or projector.

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