Anybody else think Universal is kind of quiet? - Blu-ray Forum

stockstar1138 · 10-24-2007, 03:50 PM

It seemed like last summer Ken Graffeo was out every few weeks touting some new HD DVD accomplishment (like buying toliet paper in a movie). I havn't heard much out of Universal's mouth at all in the past few months. Kind of makes you wonder whats going on with them and HD DVD.

spam.curitiba · 10-24-2007, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stockstar1138

It seemed like last summer Ken Graffeo was out every few weeks touting some new HD DVD accomplishment (like buying toliet paper in a movie). I havn't heard much out of Universal's mouth at all in the past few months. Kind of makes you wonder whats going on with them and HD DVD.

They didn't make on their promise of how many hd dvd movies they were going to put out either......it seems like they are trying to decide to stay or go neutral or switch.

stockstar1138 · 10-24-2007, 03:53 PM

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They didn't make on their promise of how many hd dvd movies they were going to put out either......it seems like they are trying to decide to stay or go neutral or switch.

and their fourth quarter release schedule is just horrible. I mean they are all less than avg. catalog titles.

JJ_L · 10-24-2007, 03:54 PM

Hmmmm Neutral Uni.... That would be the death of Dud....

If only it happens soon enough

spam.curitiba · 10-24-2007, 03:54 PM

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and their fourth quarter release schedule is just horrible. I mean they are all less than avg. catalog titles.

You saw the timecop specs right? LOLOL....

stockstar1138 · 10-24-2007, 03:56 PM

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You saw the timecop specs right? LOLOL....

oh god i forgot about that. what a joke, the upscaled dvd will probably look better. 15GB??? cmon thats only 6 more than DVD, wahts the point?

moverob · 10-24-2007, 03:57 PM

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They didn't make on their promise of how many hd dvd movies they were going to put out either......it seems like they are trying to decide to stay or go neutral or switch.

I just hope, at this point, looking at the sales figures comparison between BD and the other format they're supporting, they will decide to at least go format-neutral... Come on, Universal, don't be so darned stubborn! The writing is very much on the wall...

stockstar1138 · 10-24-2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ_L

Hmmmm Neutral Uni.... That would be the death of Dud....

If only it happens soon enough

i don't think it would be the death of DUD. IMO we need one of these studios to go exclusive. Now a Exclusive Warner, that would be the death of HD DUD.

Blu-Ray Buckeye · 10-24-2007, 03:58 PM

If I were them I'd probably just get through yearend with HD-DVD to make sure they have deliver on their commitments. Entering the blu-ray waters during 4Q may be pointless because their catalog titles would just have too much better material to compete against. Come out neutral in 1Q08 and hit the market with their strongest catalog titles so they can get a little of their own buzz as opposed to being lost in the holiday madness. Over 2Q08 release the rest of the ctaalog. Obviously all new movies would be on both formats.

stockstar1138 · 10-24-2007, 04:01 PM

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If I were them I'd probably just get through yearend with HD-DVD to make sure they have deliver on their commitments. Entering the blu-ray waters during 4Q may be pointless because their catalog titles would just have too much better material to compete against. Come out neutral in 1Q08 and hit the market with their strongest catalog titles so they can get a little of their own buzz as opposed to being lost in the holiday madness. Over 2Q08 release the rest of the ctaalog. Obviously all new movies would be on both formats.

so do you know if there is a commitment they have had to make with a company that shall not be named. to me it seems like that little commmitment they had might be over now and they are just getting ready to get things in place.

Manco · 10-24-2007, 04:08 PM

I've been saying this for weeks now. Not a peep from Ken Graffeo or Uni in regards to the format war. They are not even making any particular big deal about the Bourne trio which is really odd. The silence is deafening.

Teazle · 10-24-2007, 04:10 PM

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You saw the timecop specs right? LOLOL....

I just took a look and ... people aren't kidding, it's actually on a 15GB disc. What a laugh.

SS316SRV · 10-24-2007, 04:11 PM

We need to wait and see...

Remember Fox was pretty quiet for a while.

stockstar1138 · 10-24-2007, 04:12 PM

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We need to wait and see...

Remember Fox was pretty quiet for a while.

Fox was quiet because of the AACs getting cracked. Universal has no beef like that. As we've all suspected they are under a contract and that contract is about or has expired. Thus, the desperate Paramount move.

Steverhcp02 · 10-24-2007, 04:13 PM

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We need to wait and see...

Remember Fox was pretty quiet for a while.

agreed, however we KNEW fox's issue...and fox was NEVER as vocal as Graffeo and Uni was. To someone casually reading youd have thought Graffeo developed HD DVD and Uni was its largest shareholder with the kind of PR they had.

Thats why its a bit different, imo, than fox.

oscar_in_fw · 10-24-2007, 04:14 PM

Or maybe they are getting ready to dump 100+ HD DVD titles just after Thanksgiving in a coordinated (but hush-hush) effort with the release of $200 HD DVD players to build overwhelming momentum for HD DVD just in time for the Holidays....

I personally prefer the Defection to Blu-ray rumors.

Longshot · 10-24-2007, 04:15 PM

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I've been saying this for weeks now. Not a peep from Ken Graffeo or Uni in regards to the format war. They are not even making any particular big deal about the Bourne trio which is really odd. The silence is deafening.

I would not read too much into this. Remeber CES last year and how everyone on the red side was up in arms over Uni's non presence? I've said many times the only way Uni will go nuetral is if Graffeo and Kornblau leave or their fired. Those two have to be tamong the most inept executives ever in Hollywood.

stockstar1138 · 10-24-2007, 04:17 PM

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I would not read too much into this. Remeber CES last year and how everyone on the red side was up in arms over Uni's non presence? I've said many times the only way Uni will go nuetral is if Graffeo and Kornblau leave or their fired. Those two have to be tamong the most inept executives ever in Hollywood.

i wouldn't say that. we don't know how much Universal was paid. If they would have sold 25 million in blu-ray disc sales and receive 30 million to stay hd dvd excluisve. we really can't call them inept. Especially if their plan all along was to realize blu profits at a latter date. Remember a lot of the BS they have said, they were paid litterly millions to say. you'd probably do the same and your higher ups would be more than glad to take the $.

mystiksuicide · 10-24-2007, 04:20 PM

Perhaps I am ignorant to this or just mistaken but wasn't Universal part of the development team for HD DVD? If that's the case and I hope I am mistaken they are not going to make blu's until HD DVD is out for the count.

w_tanoto · 10-24-2007, 04:22 PM

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Perhaps I am ignorant to this or just mistaken but wasn't Universal part of the development team for HD DVD? If that's the case and I hope I am mistaken they are not going to make blu's until HD DVD is out for the count.

I heard ken graffeo hold a position in HD DVD PRG.
and by seeing Universal's HD DVD, it is unlikely they will go neutral. (They kind of associationg their logo with HD DVD, just like what fox/disney did).
like Disney DVD and Disney Blu-ray.

10-24-2007, 03:50 PM	#1
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	Anybody else think Universal is kind of quiet? It seemed like last summer Ken Graffeo was out every few weeks touting some new HD DVD accomplishment (like buying toliet paper in a movie). I havn't heard much out of Universal's mouth at all in the past few months. Kind of makes you wonder whats going on with them and HD DVD.

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10-24-2007, 03:54 PM	#4
JJ_L Member Member since:Aug 2007	Hmmmm Neutral Uni.... That would be the death of Dud.... If only it happens soon enough

10-24-2007, 03:58 PM	#9
Blu-Ray Buckeye Power Member Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Virginia	If I were them I'd probably just get through yearend with HD-DVD to make sure they have deliver on their commitments. Entering the blu-ray waters during 4Q may be pointless because their catalog titles would just have too much better material to compete against. Come out neutral in 1Q08 and hit the market with their strongest catalog titles so they can get a little of their own buzz as opposed to being lost in the holiday madness. Over 2Q08 release the rest of the ctaalog. Obviously all new movies would be on both formats.

10-24-2007, 04:08 PM	#11
Manco Special Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Tucumcari	I've been saying this for weeks now. Not a peep from Ken Graffeo or Uni in regards to the format war. They are not even making any particular big deal about the Bourne trio which is really odd. The silence is deafening.

10-24-2007, 04:11 PM	#13
SS316SRV Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Appleton, WI Blu-ray collection:74	We need to wait and see... Remember Fox was pretty quiet for a while.

10-24-2007, 04:14 PM	#16
oscar_in_fw Member Member since:Sep 2007	Or maybe they are getting ready to dump 100+ HD DVD titles just after Thanksgiving in a coordinated (but hush-hush) effort with the release of $200 HD DVD players to build overwhelming momentum for HD DVD just in time for the Holidays.... I personally prefer the Defection to Blu-ray rumors.

10-24-2007, 04:20 PM	#19
mystiksuicide Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Miami Blu-ray collection:305 Blu-ray reviews:27	Perhaps I am ignorant to this or just mistaken but wasn't Universal part of the development team for HD DVD? If that's the case and I hope I am mistaken they are not going to make blu's until HD DVD is out for the count.

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