What if MGSIV is 1080p/60, PCM? - Blu-ray Forum

stockstar1138 · 03-06-2008, 02:45 PM

What does it mean?

Luis_A51 · 03-06-2008, 02:49 PM

im fine with 720p/60fps but I REALLY REALLY want 7.1 PCM.

Sonny · 03-06-2008, 02:50 PM

It means its F'n SWEET

It would be amazing if it had a PCM track

along with the 1080p/60

savage1984 · 03-06-2008, 02:51 PM

I think eventually we'll get to this point, but as for now most developers are still not comfortable/aware enough with what they can achieve in the ps3. It's full capabilities have yet to be tapped. It's only a matter of time. I don't think it's developers being lazy when they don't put 1080p and PCM. I think they're being lazy when they port a game over from xbox 360 and the port sucks. I am more concerned about cross-platform games performance.

PS3 Blu-Ray · 03-06-2008, 02:59 PM

man that would be great

cajmoyper · 03-06-2008, 03:36 PM

Aren't they already having trouble fitting the maps alone on BD?

stockstar1138 · 03-06-2008, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cajmoyper

Aren't they already having trouble fitting the maps alone on BD?

no, they are having trouble fitting dual audio onto the disc.

but, wouldn't specs like these kind of explain why they ran out of space.

aphex · 03-06-2008, 04:03 PM

if so this game will be an amazing landmark in gaming history(assuming it runs smoothly and has a great story).

Of course it'll still be pretty historical just because the game will be amazing.

tru2blu707 · 03-06-2008, 05:21 PM

id definitely rather have games running at native 1080p/60 fps. sometimes i still notice pixalation on 720p games.

to kojima

Ascended_Saiyan · 03-06-2008, 05:34 PM

I think it will be running @1080p/30. It has a ton of effects from what I've seen in the demo, so that's amazing!

Shin-Ra · 03-06-2008, 05:43 PM

I expect it to render natively at 720p with a framerate varying between 60 and 30fps. Most audio will be presented at 5.1/7.1 LPCM.

If anyone's disappointed if it doesn't natively support 1080p you've only got yourself to blame for having unrealistic expectations.

WeApOn · 03-06-2008, 05:49 PM

-It's been confirmed for 7.1 PCM.

-It also has been confirmed for 60fps, but lowering to around 30fps in some scenes.

-It has been rumored to be seen at 1080p, but nothing official.

xtop · 03-06-2008, 05:50 PM

where's the option for this not happening?

Shin-Ra · 03-06-2008, 05:58 PM

MGS3 runs at 30fps and less (as opposed to MGS2's 60fps and less with explosions, crazy water effects and tankers full of soldiers

) so the jump back up to 60 would be nice. I'd trade that in for a detail increase like MGS3's but I'm just going to have to wait for their next game if they take the higher detail over 60fps route.

3D grass in MGS3.. I hate it when next-gen games still don't have that.

desmond · 03-06-2008, 06:02 PM

1080p could mean a lot of things, let' wait and see. lossless audio is there.

Shin-Ra · 03-06-2008, 06:12 PM

I forgot the MGS2 spotlights (like in the Olga boss battle), if you glanced past them especially in first person you got some slowdown and tearing.

L or S of Perfect? · 03-06-2008, 06:26 PM

I expect it to render natively at 720p with a framerate varying between 60 and 30fps. Most audio will be presented at 5.1/7.1 LPCM.

If anyone's disappointed if it doesn't natively support 1080p you've only got yourself to blame for having unrealistic expectations.

My opinion is in line with Shin-ra's

Horhay · 03-06-2008, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin-Ra

I expect it to render natively at 720p with a framerate varying between 60 and 30fps. Most audio will be presented at 5.1/7.1 LPCM.

If anyone's disappointed if it doesn't natively support 1080p you've only got yourself to blame for having unrealistic expectations.

Well said! I agree.

xtop · 03-06-2008, 06:58 PM

as long as its a solid 30 i'll be ok with it, but i expect zero slowdown on a game like this

WeApOn · 03-06-2008, 07:12 PM

Running smoothly > Resolution in this.. for sure. If it's 720p I hope they used a good amount of aliasing. As long as it's sharp, and runs well.. I'm happy.

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03-06-2008, 02:49 PM	#2
Luis_A51 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Calgary, AB Blu-ray reviews:4	im fine with 720p/60fps but I REALLY REALLY want 7.1 PCM.

03-06-2008, 02:50 PM	#3
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	It means its F'n SWEET It would be amazing if it had a PCM track along with the 1080p/60

03-06-2008, 02:51 PM	#4
savage1984 Banned Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Los Angeles	I think eventually we'll get to this point, but as for now most developers are still not comfortable/aware enough with what they can achieve in the ps3. It's full capabilities have yet to be tapped. It's only a matter of time. I don't think it's developers being lazy when they don't put 1080p and PCM. I think they're being lazy when they port a game over from xbox 360 and the port sucks. I am more concerned about cross-platform games performance.

03-06-2008, 02:59 PM	#5
PS3 Blu-Ray Active Member Member since:Feb 2008	man that would be great

03-06-2008, 03:36 PM	#6
cajmoyper Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jun 2007 Location:San Antonio, TX Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:182	Aren't they already having trouble fitting the maps alone on BD?

03-06-2008, 04:03 PM	#8
aphex Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Scottsdale Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:4	if so this game will be an amazing landmark in gaming history(assuming it runs smoothly and has a great story). Of course it'll still be pretty historical just because the game will be amazing.

03-06-2008, 05:21 PM	#9
tru2blu707 Senior Member Member since:Oct 2007	id definitely rather have games running at native 1080p/60 fps. sometimes i still notice pixalation on 720p games. to kojima

03-06-2008, 05:34 PM	#10
Ascended_Saiyan Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Atlanta, Georgia Blu-ray collection:608 Trading Score:1	I think it will be running @1080p/30. It has a ton of effects from what I've seen in the demo, so that's amazing!

03-06-2008, 05:43 PM	#11
Shin-Ra Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:5 Trading Score:1	I expect it to render natively at 720p with a framerate varying between 60 and 30fps. Most audio will be presented at 5.1/7.1 LPCM. If anyone's disappointed if it doesn't natively support 1080p you've only got yourself to blame for having unrealistic expectations.

03-06-2008, 05:49 PM	#12
WeApOn Special Member Member since:Aug 2006 Location:Rhode Island, USA	-It's been confirmed for 7.1 PCM. -It also has been confirmed for 60fps, but lowering to around 30fps in some scenes. -It has been rumored to be seen at 1080p, but nothing official.

03-06-2008, 05:50 PM	#13
xtop Blu-ray Count Member since:Oct 2007 Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- Trading Score:3	where's the option for this not happening?

03-06-2008, 05:58 PM	#14
Shin-Ra Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:5 Trading Score:1	MGS3 runs at 30fps and less (as opposed to MGS2's 60fps and less with explosions, crazy water effects and tankers full of soldiers ) so the jump back up to 60 would be nice. I'd trade that in for a detail increase like MGS3's but I'm just going to have to wait for their next game if they take the higher detail over 60fps route. 3D grass in MGS3.. I hate it when next-gen games still don't have that.

03-06-2008, 06:02 PM	#15
desmond Senior Member Member since:May 2007 Blu-ray collection:262 Blu-ray reviews:2	1080p could mean a lot of things, let' wait and see. lossless audio is there.

03-06-2008, 06:12 PM	#16
Shin-Ra Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:5 Trading Score:1	I forgot the MGS2 spotlights (like in the Olga boss battle), if you glanced past them especially in first person you got some slowdown and tearing.

03-06-2008, 06:26 PM	#17
L or S of Perfect? Senior Member Member since:Sep 2007	I expect it to render natively at 720p with a framerate varying between 60 and 30fps. Most audio will be presented at 5.1/7.1 LPCM. If anyone's disappointed if it doesn't natively support 1080p you've only got yourself to blame for having unrealistic expectations. My opinion is in line with Shin-ra's

03-06-2008, 06:58 PM	#19
xtop Blu-ray Count Member since:Oct 2007 Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- Trading Score:3	as long as its a solid 30 i'll be ok with it, but i expect zero slowdown on a game like this

03-06-2008, 07:12 PM	#20
WeApOn Special Member Member since:Aug 2006 Location:Rhode Island, USA	Running smoothly > Resolution in this.. for sure. If it's 720p I hope they used a good amount of aliasing. As long as it's sharp, and runs well.. I'm happy.

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