Yamaha VX663 wont decode True HD or DTS-MA - Blu-ray Forum

rox addict · 03-20-2008, 07:57 AM

I just purchased a Yamaha VX 663 and I am running it with a Pannasonic BD-30 BD. When it decodes DTS MA it only brings up 5.1 channels. I tried it with Shoot em up and that movie is in 7.1 DTS-MA. Also, I can't get it to decode anything in True HD. I have tried every setup between the Panny and the Yamaha and nothing gives. Does anyone have this setup by any chance ? Any help is appreciated

martinstraka8282 · 03-20-2008, 08:15 AM

Do you have the player set to bitstream?

Have you selected the proper soundtrack in the movie audio set up menu?

Other than that it would have to be in the receiver, and it is listed as able to decode these codecs so it must be an easy fix somewhere.

martinstraka8282 · 03-20-2008, 08:19 AM

I assume you are using HDMI as opposed to analog 7.1.

Try digging in the receiver menu, I have the 661 and it took a lot of tweaking in the menus to get it set up properly, and the instruction manual was halpful, but not specific enough at times.

I looked at the yamaha site for the 663 and it does clarify that it does decode these codecs.

martinstraka8282 · 03-20-2008, 08:23 AM

Here is a link to the 663's thread on AVSforum.com, it should have everything you need to help out.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=995796

rox addict · 03-20-2008, 08:58 AM

When I played 3:10 to Yuma the 7.1 PCM track came up fine and I thought it was going to be fine. All 7 channels lit up but one problem the center channel wasn't working. When I changed the field sound on my Yamaha VX-663 the efects seemed to be working and the center would work then but all dialogue came from the center and the fron two mains. Also, when I play 5.1 True HD movies the Yamaha VX663 will not let you change the field so I can pick up all 7.1 channels. I have a Panasonic Bd-30 and with "300" the True HD wouldn't even work. What am I doing wrong ? Am I just going to be able to watch movies in 5.1 ? Am I getting True HD and DTS MA just because my receiver shows them ? Is it true lossless if you do change the field to pick up the back speakers. I'm totally lost and am hoping its not the receiver

Can anyone help, thanks !

crackinhedz · 03-20-2008, 01:31 PM

is you BD30 set for:

hdmi audio = bitstream
secondary audio = Off

?

crackinhedz · 03-20-2008, 01:32 PM

Quote:

When I changed the field sound on my Yamaha VX-663 the efects seemed to be working and the center would work then but all dialogue came from the center and the fron two mains.

what sound fields are you using?

rox addict · 03-20-2008, 01:32 PM

Thanks guys ! Yes I have done everything you all have mentioned but with no luck. Its funny because 3:10 to Yuma immediately brought up all 7 channels but then the center channel did not work. With "300" True HD would not work either but when I put Spidey 3 in The True HD came up right away but then it was in 5.1 which I know it is suppose to be. Thats another question I have on the 663 , how do you somehow get those back surrounds on for 7.1 ? I know you can do this with the Onkyo 605 ! I put in Shoot'em up and it found the DTS-MA track right away but in 5.1 and it says on the Blu-Ray 7.1 DTS Master Audio.I found that post on AVS last night and started reading it but it was 4 in the morning and I had to get up for work at 6

But I'm hard headed and wanted to figure this AVR out.....Thanks

rox addict · 03-20-2008, 02:03 PM

Crackinhedz,
with 3:10 to Yuma I'm not using any sound fields because it immediately brings up the PCM 7.1 tracks but without the center channel working. Once I switch it from the straight mode to any other field the center comes on. I have my Panny set to bitstream and the secondary audio is off. I have the multichannel set on in the panny instead of two channel. Its just weird because the 663 will immediately recognize Spidey 3 D-True HD but not 300. It also recognizes Shoot em Up which is 7.1 DTS-MA but it only plays in 5.1 I feel like the new surround rears I just installed in my ceiling are useless to me know. What do you think Crackinhedz ? Thank you

crackinhedz · 03-20-2008, 02:05 PM

are you connected with HDMI cable?

(also check and make sure your center channel is wired correctly and also center channel turned on in the receiver settings)

musicman1999 · 03-20-2008, 02:45 PM

Rox

Anytime you apply a layer of processing, such as PL2x, to add 2 more channels to a 5.1 signal it will cause a degradation of the sound. How bad will be up to you to decide.

bill

rox addict · 03-20-2008, 03:44 PM

Crackinhedz, yes I am running HDMI directly from my Panny to my AVR using a 3mm HDMI cable ( very short.) Musicman I'm glad you brought that up because I was wondering if that was the case. I know 7.1 was not made for the theatres but I love the sound of those extra speakers in the back because it just fills the room. But they are coming out with movies in Blu-Ray that are 7.1 I have two of them "3:10 to Yuma and Shoot em Up" but one only does 5.1 DTS-MA and the other one is PCM 7.1 and the center channel won't work unless I use a sound field. I had a Yamaha HTR-5740 which I replaced with the 663 to get True HD and DTS -MA but now I'm wondering if I really needed to make that change. I've only had the receiver one day but I'm just having these problems and hopefuly with the help of those on this board I will get it figured out, thanks again

rox addict · 03-20-2008, 03:46 PM

Oh yeah Crackinhedz the center channel works once I select a field and take it off of straight. It only does this with "3:10 to Yuma" which is 7.1 PCM lossless audio, thanks !

un4gvn94538 · 03-20-2008, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rox addict

Oh yeah Crackinhedz the center channel works once I select a field and take it off of straight. It only does this with "3:10 to Yuma" which is 7.1 PCM lossless audio, thanks !

thats insane. that would drive me crazy! just a thought. maybe there are settings that need to be configured in the player or receiver with pcm tracks. does the center channel work with other pcm blus?

rox addict · 03-20-2008, 04:13 PM

Yes it does but "3:10 to Yuma " is the only 7.1 PCM blu that I have ! I have a 7.1 DTS-MA but it only plays in 5.1 .....lol.... go figure

blujacket · 03-20-2008, 04:56 PM

Do you have the surround back speakers turned on in the speaker "SET MENU"?

rox addict · 03-20-2008, 07:02 PM

blu jacket on the panny BD or the AVR 663 ? They are on because when I put Spidey 3 on Dolby True HD works perfect in 5.1....

un4gvn94538 · 03-20-2008, 07:25 PM

check www.avsforums.com they may have an official thread for your reciever. they are very informative.

blujacket · 03-20-2008, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rox addict

blu jacket on the panny BD or the AVR 663 ? They are on because when I put Spidey 3 on Dolby True HD works perfect in 5.1....

On the 663. Go to page 94 in your manual to set extended surround modes

blujacket · 03-20-2008, 07:36 PM

Page 88 shows the surround back speakers settings

03-20-2008, 07:57 AM	#1
rox addict Active Member Member since:Mar 2008 Blu-ray reviews: 2	Yamaha VX663 wont decode True HD or DTS-MA I just purchased a Yamaha VX 663 and I am running it with a Pannasonic BD-30 BD. When it decodes DTS MA it only brings up 5.1 channels. I tried it with Shoot em up and that movie is in 7.1 DTS-MA. Also, I can't get it to decode anything in True HD. I have tried every setup between the Panny and the Yamaha and nothing gives. Does anyone have this setup by any chance ? Any help is appreciated

03-20-2008, 08:58 AM	#5
rox addict Active Member Member since:Mar 2008 Blu-ray reviews: 2	Yamaha VX 663 problems ! Need Help ! When I played 3:10 to Yuma the 7.1 PCM track came up fine and I thought it was going to be fine. All 7 channels lit up but one problem the center channel wasn't working. When I changed the field sound on my Yamaha VX-663 the efects seemed to be working and the center would work then but all dialogue came from the center and the fron two mains. Also, when I play 5.1 True HD movies the Yamaha VX663 will not let you change the field so I can pick up all 7.1 channels. I have a Panasonic Bd-30 and with "300" the True HD wouldn't even work. What am I doing wrong ? Am I just going to be able to watch movies in 5.1 ? Am I getting True HD and DTS MA just because my receiver shows them ? Is it true lossless if you do change the field to pick up the back speakers. I'm totally lost and am hoping its not the receiver Can anyone help, thanks !

03-20-2008, 04:56 PM	#16
blujacket Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Dayton,Ohio 4K collection:70 Blu-ray collection:658	Do you have the surround back speakers turned on in the speaker "SET MENU"? Last edited by blujacket; 03-20-2008 at 05:02 PM.

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03-20-2008, 08:15 AM	#2
martinstraka8282 Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007 4K collection:401 Blu-ray collection:1466 DVD collection:1 Trading Score:1	Do you have the player set to bitstream? Have you selected the proper soundtrack in the movie audio set up menu? Other than that it would have to be in the receiver, and it is listed as able to decode these codecs so it must be an easy fix somewhere.

03-20-2008, 08:19 AM	#3
martinstraka8282 Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007 4K collection:401 Blu-ray collection:1466 DVD collection:1 Trading Score:1	I assume you are using HDMI as opposed to analog 7.1. Try digging in the receiver menu, I have the 661 and it took a lot of tweaking in the menus to get it set up properly, and the instruction manual was halpful, but not specific enough at times. I looked at the yamaha site for the 663 and it does clarify that it does decode these codecs.

03-20-2008, 08:23 AM	#4
martinstraka8282 Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007 4K collection:401 Blu-ray collection:1466 DVD collection:1 Trading Score:1	Here is a link to the 663's thread on AVSforum.com, it should have everything you need to help out. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=995796

03-20-2008, 01:31 PM	#6
crackinhedz Super Moderator Member since:Feb 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:19	is you BD30 set for: hdmi audio = bitstream secondary audio = Off ?

03-20-2008, 01:32 PM	#8
rox addict Active Member Member since:Mar 2008 Blu-ray reviews: 2	Thanks guys ! Yes I have done everything you all have mentioned but with no luck. Its funny because 3:10 to Yuma immediately brought up all 7 channels but then the center channel did not work. With "300" True HD would not work either but when I put Spidey 3 in The True HD came up right away but then it was in 5.1 which I know it is suppose to be. Thats another question I have on the 663 , how do you somehow get those back surrounds on for 7.1 ? I know you can do this with the Onkyo 605 ! I put in Shoot'em up and it found the DTS-MA track right away but in 5.1 and it says on the Blu-Ray 7.1 DTS Master Audio.I found that post on AVS last night and started reading it but it was 4 in the morning and I had to get up for work at 6 But I'm hard headed and wanted to figure this AVR out.....Thanks

03-20-2008, 02:03 PM	#9
rox addict Active Member Member since:Mar 2008 Blu-ray reviews: 2	Crackinhedz, with 3:10 to Yuma I'm not using any sound fields because it immediately brings up the PCM 7.1 tracks but without the center channel working. Once I switch it from the straight mode to any other field the center comes on. I have my Panny set to bitstream and the secondary audio is off. I have the multichannel set on in the panny instead of two channel. Its just weird because the 663 will immediately recognize Spidey 3 D-True HD but not 300. It also recognizes Shoot em Up which is 7.1 DTS-MA but it only plays in 5.1 I feel like the new surround rears I just installed in my ceiling are useless to me know. What do you think Crackinhedz ? Thank you

03-20-2008, 02:05 PM	#10
crackinhedz Super Moderator Member since:Feb 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:19	are you connected with HDMI cable? (also check and make sure your center channel is wired correctly and also center channel turned on in the receiver settings)

03-20-2008, 02:45 PM	#11
musicman1999 Active Member Member since:Nov 2007	Rox Anytime you apply a layer of processing, such as PL2x, to add 2 more channels to a 5.1 signal it will cause a degradation of the sound. How bad will be up to you to decide. bill

03-20-2008, 03:44 PM	#12
rox addict Active Member Member since:Mar 2008 Blu-ray reviews: 2	Crackinhedz, yes I am running HDMI directly from my Panny to my AVR using a 3mm HDMI cable ( very short.) Musicman I'm glad you brought that up because I was wondering if that was the case. I know 7.1 was not made for the theatres but I love the sound of those extra speakers in the back because it just fills the room. But they are coming out with movies in Blu-Ray that are 7.1 I have two of them "3:10 to Yuma and Shoot em Up" but one only does 5.1 DTS-MA and the other one is PCM 7.1 and the center channel won't work unless I use a sound field. I had a Yamaha HTR-5740 which I replaced with the 663 to get True HD and DTS -MA but now I'm wondering if I really needed to make that change. I've only had the receiver one day but I'm just having these problems and hopefuly with the help of those on this board I will get it figured out, thanks again

03-20-2008, 03:46 PM	#13
rox addict Active Member Member since:Mar 2008 Blu-ray reviews: 2	Oh yeah Crackinhedz the center channel works once I select a field and take it off of straight. It only does this with "3:10 to Yuma" which is 7.1 PCM lossless audio, thanks !

03-20-2008, 04:13 PM	#15
rox addict Active Member Member since:Mar 2008 Blu-ray reviews: 2	Yes it does but "3:10 to Yuma " is the only 7.1 PCM blu that I have ! I have a 7.1 DTS-MA but it only plays in 5.1 .....lol.... go figure

03-20-2008, 07:02 PM	#17
rox addict Active Member Member since:Mar 2008 Blu-ray reviews: 2	blu jacket on the panny BD or the AVR 663 ? They are on because when I put Spidey 3 on Dolby True HD works perfect in 5.1....

03-20-2008, 07:25 PM	#18
un4gvn94538 Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Limbo (Bakersfield, Ca.) 4K collection:143 Blu-ray collection:811 DVD collection:54 Digital collection:1494 Trading Score:277	check www.avsforums.com they may have an official thread for your reciever. they are very informative.

03-20-2008, 07:36 PM	#20
blujacket Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Dayton,Ohio 4K collection:70 Blu-ray collection:658	Page 88 shows the surround back speakers settings

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