Looks Like Blu-ray Is Going To Win The Format War. - Blu-ray Forum

HDTV1080P · 01-13-2007, 04:36 AM

With 7 out 8 studios supporting Blu-ray and almost every major company making Blu-ray players, the HD-DVD format might die within a couple years. Blu-ray is a better quality format with 50GB discs available now and possible within 2 years 200GB discs. The one major event that would end the format war and bring victory to Blu-ray would be a announcement from Universal that they would start releasing movies on Blu-ray. If such an event would occur then there would be no need to buy an expensive universal player or a triple or total disc. The total play disc idea is a bad idea. I sure do not want to pay a premium price for both a HD DVD version and a Blu-ray version on the other side of the disc.
For HD DVD to survive they need to have studio support from Disney, Fox and if one is dreaming Sony. In the real world Sony would never release movies in HD-DVD format unless Blu-ray completely failed. It would be stupid for Disney or Fox to release movies in HD-DVD. Doing so would fuel the format war.
All we need for this format war to end is to have Universal release movies on Blu-ray. Then a CEO of retail stores like Best Buy and Circuit City could make a wise decision and decide to not carry any HD-DVD software in their stores. I know if I was a CEO of a retail chain if I saw that Blu-ray sold over 1 million players and HD-DVD only sold 175,000 players I would save much needed shelf space and refuse to carry HD-DVD software in the store. At some point in a year or two we may see HD-DVD dropped by some stores if Blu-ray continues to out sale HD-DVD.
This time around Sony Blu-ray is the VHS and the Toshiba HD-DVD is the Beta format in terms of winners. One of the problems with HD-DVD software when it first launched was the fact that some people thought it was like a super bit DVD that they could play on a standard DVD player. That is why almost every new release of HD-DVD is now is on dual disc format to ease customer confusion.
Some of the reasons why HD-DVD will fail:

1. HD-DVD has less capacity on the disc.
2. HD-DVD was released only 3 month before Blu-ray. If the HD-DVD format would have had a 1 year head start over Blu-ray then this format war would have lasted longer.
3. HD-DVD needs more studio support to be successful
4. HD-DVD needs more industry support besides Toshiba and a handful of lower end consumer electronics companies.

Pestilence · 01-13-2007, 05:54 AM

You're preaching to the choir buddy. You may want to post this in the HD-DVD section of avsforum.com.

LeoneFan · 01-13-2007, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

You're preaching to the choir buddy. You may want to post this in the HD-DVD section of avsforum.com.

Good idea, except it wouldn't take even 5 minutes for the HDDVD gestapo to close it down.

HDTV1080P · 01-13-2007, 06:45 AM

thanks, I did post to the HD-DVD forum instead,

http://forum.hd-dvd.com/showthread.php?t=336

Some of the posts on the HD-DVD forum are not intelligent posts. I really doubt Disney and Fox will release movies in HD-DVD or Total Disc. I understand that early adopters that bought HD-DVD might be blinded at what is going on. It just surprises me that people believe some of the inaccurate information that some people post in HD-DVD making it look like Blu-ray is going to die soon.
Many experts agree that it would take a miracle for HD-DVD to survive. There are too many studios that are Blu-ray only supporters. In order for HD-DVD to survive there needs to be wide studio support for HD-DVD.
Videophiles don’t care about cheap $50 players from China. Quality players from name brands like Pioneer, Sony, and Panasonic will drive the early adopters. HD-DVD players can already be bought for around $377 online for the first generation Toshiba player.

Knight-Errant · 01-13-2007, 08:25 AM

Well of COURSE Blu-ray's gonna win! The writing was on the wall since before HD DVD launched.

phloyd · 01-13-2007, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight-Errant

Well of COURSE Blu-ray's gonna win! The writing was on the wall since before HD DVD launched.

While this is true, things have happened since HD DVD launched. The defection to both formats by Warner and Paramount was a key move.

It could have just as easily been Fox and Disney doing HD DVD instead and if that had happened BD would have been on the back foot at this time.

(Well, ok, it would never have happened but you see my point - things can change).

Anyways... techinically I think BD was always the winner. However studio support will be the deciding factor. The most important feature of a release is the title of the movie.

Knight-Errant · 01-14-2007, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by phloyd

While this is true, things have happened since HD DVD launched. The defection to both formats by Warner and Paramount was a key move.

It could have just as easily been Fox and Disney doing HD DVD instead and if that had happened BD would have been on the back foot at this time.

(Well, ok, it would never have happened but you see my point - things can change).

Anyways... techinically I think BD was always the winner. However studio support will be the deciding factor. The most important feature of a release is the title of the movie.

Well yeah but I nothing ultimately disastrous happened along the way. If it had, I wouldn't have made that point lol

Iceman_II · 01-14-2007, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

thanks, I did post to the HD-DVD forum instead,

http://forum.hd-dvd.com/showthread.php?t=336

Some of the posts on the HD-DVD forum are not intelligent posts. I really doubt Disney and Fox will release movies in HD-DVD or Total Disc. I understand that early adopters that bought HD-DVD might be blinded at what is going on. It just surprises me that people believe some of the inaccurate information that some people post in HD-DVD making it look like Blu-ray is going to die soon.
Many experts agree that it would take a miracle for HD-DVD to survive. There are too many studios that are Blu-ray only supporters. In order for HD-DVD to survive there needs to be wide studio support for HD-DVD.
Videophiles don’t care about cheap $50 players from China. Quality players from name brands like Pioneer, Sony, and Panasonic will drive the early adopters. HD-DVD players can already be bought for around $377 online for the first generation Toshiba player.

I added my two cents as well.... great to have a thread yet to be discovered by fanbois

Blubaru · 01-14-2007, 06:08 PM

I just got the newest issue of EGM and they have a great article on the format war. In the end they practically proclaimed Blu-ray to be the winner. The whole article was very pro-blu-ray

GasCat · 01-15-2007, 03:41 AM

Universal's revenue will end up being dwarfed by other studios. If they could sell an additional 100k to one million Blu-Ray copies of a movie they will. The lack of movie announcements is a sign that they are about to go Blu. If management sticks to their guns then shareholders will start pulling the triggers.

Knight-Errant · 01-15-2007, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GasCat

Universal's revenue will end up being dwarfed by other studios. If they could sell an additional 100k to one million Blu-Ray copies of a movie they will. The lack of movie announcements is a sign that they are about to go Blu. If management sticks to their guns then shareholders will start pulling the triggers.

Then its time for one violin to play for HD DVD

01-13-2007, 04:36 AM	#1
HDTV1080P Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 205	Looks Like Blu-ray Is Going To Win The Format War. With 7 out 8 studios supporting Blu-ray and almost every major company making Blu-ray players, the HD-DVD format might die within a couple years. Blu-ray is a better quality format with 50GB discs available now and possible within 2 years 200GB discs. The one major event that would end the format war and bring victory to Blu-ray would be a announcement from Universal that they would start releasing movies on Blu-ray. If such an event would occur then there would be no need to buy an expensive universal player or a triple or total disc. The total play disc idea is a bad idea. I sure do not want to pay a premium price for both a HD DVD version and a Blu-ray version on the other side of the disc. For HD DVD to survive they need to have studio support from Disney, Fox and if one is dreaming Sony. In the real world Sony would never release movies in HD-DVD format unless Blu-ray completely failed. It would be stupid for Disney or Fox to release movies in HD-DVD. Doing so would fuel the format war. All we need for this format war to end is to have Universal release movies on Blu-ray. Then a CEO of retail stores like Best Buy and Circuit City could make a wise decision and decide to not carry any HD-DVD software in their stores. I know if I was a CEO of a retail chain if I saw that Blu-ray sold over 1 million players and HD-DVD only sold 175,000 players I would save much needed shelf space and refuse to carry HD-DVD software in the store. At some point in a year or two we may see HD-DVD dropped by some stores if Blu-ray continues to out sale HD-DVD. This time around Sony Blu-ray is the VHS and the Toshiba HD-DVD is the Beta format in terms of winners. One of the problems with HD-DVD software when it first launched was the fact that some people thought it was like a super bit DVD that they could play on a standard DVD player. That is why almost every new release of HD-DVD is now is on dual disc format to ease customer confusion. Some of the reasons why HD-DVD will fail: 1. HD-DVD has less capacity on the disc. 2. HD-DVD was released only 3 month before Blu-ray. If the HD-DVD format would have had a 1 year head start over Blu-ray then this format war would have lasted longer. 3. HD-DVD needs more studio support to be successful 4. HD-DVD needs more industry support besides Toshiba and a handful of lower end consumer electronics companies. Last edited by HDTV1080P; 01-13-2007 at 04:50 AM. Reason: GRAMMER

01-13-2007, 06:45 AM	#4
HDTV1080P Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 205	thanks for the info thanks, I did post to the HD-DVD forum instead, http://forum.hd-dvd.com/showthread.php?t=336 Some of the posts on the HD-DVD forum are not intelligent posts. I really doubt Disney and Fox will release movies in HD-DVD or Total Disc. I understand that early adopters that bought HD-DVD might be blinded at what is going on. It just surprises me that people believe some of the inaccurate information that some people post in HD-DVD making it look like Blu-ray is going to die soon. Many experts agree that it would take a miracle for HD-DVD to survive. There are too many studios that are Blu-ray only supporters. In order for HD-DVD to survive there needs to be wide studio support for HD-DVD. Videophiles don’t care about cheap $50 players from China. Quality players from name brands like Pioneer, Sony, and Panasonic will drive the early adopters. HD-DVD players can already be bought for around $377 online for the first generation Toshiba player.

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01-13-2007, 05:54 AM	#2
Pestilence Member Member since:Dec 2006	You're preaching to the choir buddy. You may want to post this in the HD-DVD section of avsforum.com.

01-13-2007, 08:25 AM	#5
Knight-Errant Power Member Member since:Aug 2005 Location:Sheffield, UK	Well of COURSE Blu-ray's gonna win! The writing was on the wall since before HD DVD launched.

01-14-2007, 06:08 PM	#9
Blubaru Expert Member Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Tonight! you!	I just got the newest issue of EGM and they have a great article on the format war. In the end they practically proclaimed Blu-ray to be the winner. The whole article was very pro-blu-ray

01-15-2007, 03:41 AM	#10
GasCat Special Member Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	Universal's revenue will end up being dwarfed by other studios. If they could sell an additional 100k to one million Blu-Ray copies of a movie they will. The lack of movie announcements is a sign that they are about to go Blu. If management sticks to their guns then shareholders will start pulling the triggers.

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