No audio with PIP?

[Bruvydsb]

I have the Panny BD-30 and an Onkyo 606. I tried watching the Bonus View material on Batman Begins and can't get the audio to come in on the PIP? Help, Thanks.

[WickyWoo]

You cannot use bitstream and PIP audio at the same time, because the audio must be mixed in the player to work. Look at your manual on how to set it properly

[Bruvydsb]

Does that mean I can't watch the movie using either True HD or DTS Master and use the PIP audio?

[Blu-ray Fanatic]

Who cares about PIP!? It sucks

[musicman1999]

Originally Posted by Bruvydsb

Does that mean I can't watch the movie using either True HD or DTS Master and use the PIP audio?

You can if your player will internally decode them and output as pcm. You cannot use the receiver to decode and get pip audio. That has part of the Bluray spec since the beginning.

bill

[JadedRaverLA]

Originally Posted by Bruvydsb

Does that mean I can't watch the movie using either True HD or DTS Master and use the PIP audio?

That's correct for your player.

But, really, why do you need the lossless movie track if you are listening to the PiP audio? I would think standard DD or DTS would be fine.

[Kilian]

Batman Begins uses Dolby TrueHD 5.1 16-bit 48kHz 1551 kbps (equivalent to 4.6Mbps for PCM after decoding) as the primary track and Dolby Digital Plus 2.0 192 kbps (48kHz, presumably also 16-bit) on the subaudio. See the difference.

So far in the handful of BDs with real PiP they all use 2.0 192kbps subaudio only.

To me it just doesn't make a lot of sense to have the lossy subaudio 2.0 competing with the lossless primary in 5.1 or 7.1. Afterall you want to hear the subaudio.

[krisjan]

Originally Posted by Bruvydsb

I have the Panny BD-30 and an Onkyo 606. I tried watching the Bonus View material on Batman Begins and can't get the audio to come in on the PIP? Help, Thanks.

To answer your question, in the BD30 main menu, you will need to set Secondary Audio to "ON" and audio output to "PCM" in order to get the PIP audio to mix with the main soundtrack. Then you'll hear the Bonus View (i.e. Pofile 1.1) audio commentary. You will not get lossless audio doing this but as others have pointed out, why would you even care about lossless if the commentary track is blabbing away.

[Bruvydsb]

Thanks Krisjan

I was def looking for the "how to" (still a bit of a newbie)

The "Bonus View" PIP jumps in and out, so when it was not happening the lossless uadio would have been nice.

[Kilian]

If you've previously set the "bitstream" option for other non-PiP discs you don't NEED to change it to "PCM". The Panny can bitstream the mix as DD. Changing it to "PCM" every time you want to hear PiP audio just makes it more tedious.

I suspect you didn't set secondary audio to "on" before and you need to do that. It's all in the manual p.21.

[Bruvydsb]

I watched Batman Begins Bonus View material last night. I enjoyed the PIP jumping in and out of the movie. Some pretty cool stuff (from Nolan, Bale, etc..). Cool way to watch a movie (after initial viewing).

Thanks to all for help.