Uncharted 2 - annoyed at cutscenes. Please read - Blu-ray Forum

Mermen79 · 10-14-2009, 10:06 AM

I always prefer games to have real time cutscenes just like how Resident Evil 5 was. I was disapointed that Uncharted 1 used pre-recorded video. The main drawbacks are potential compression artifacts and my worst game pet peeve, bonus costumes not showing up in cutscenes.

From when I heard Uncharted 2 was announced, I really hoped ND would make it FULL real time. I got the game today and it's an incredible experience but it still uses pre-recorded scenes. You can actually see a lot of artifacts (snow scenes) due to them using a low bit rate. Oh well, it doesn't break the experience but I would of liked to watched the cutscenes in my bonus costumes. I'm a bit surprised that ND didn't use a really high video bit rate to make up for the pre-recorded video sequences. They've talked a lot about the BD's disc size so I would've thought they would use up that space, 50gb need it be.

I would like to discuss this in gaming forums but most people there have no clue what I'm talking about.

RiseDarthVader · 10-14-2009, 10:17 AM

It's because if they had cutscenes that rendered on the fly they wouldn't have textures of a high enough resolution to hold up to close ups.

blitz6speed · 10-14-2009, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiseDarthVader

It's because if they had cutscenes that rendered on the fly they wouldn't have textures of a high enough resolution to hold up to close ups.

Its video cutscenes to hide loading times, thats 99% of it. They could do the close ups and have it look amazing real time, but they want a seemless gaming experience like God Of War 1 & 2/Uncharted 1 did.

bygberbrown · 10-14-2009, 01:43 PM

[QUOTE=blitz6speed;2420693]Its video cutscenes to hide loading times, thats 99% of it. QUOTE]

MGS4 must be one massive 1%. Its got the chunkiest, drawn-out, unnecessarily expositiony cut-scenes ever, and then a billion loading screens as well.

I HATE HATE HATE cut-scenes. I LURVE games that eliminate them entirely and put all story into the game world, like Bioshock. Absolutely superb. That's the way it should be. Fallout 3 and Half Life 2 are well done too because you participate in everything. They never take control away from you.

MGS4 is top notch in many ways, but it hardly trusts you to do anything!

BAMJoe · 10-14-2009, 02:31 PM

[QUOTE=bygberbrown;2421103]

Quote:

Originally Posted by blitz6speed

Its video cutscenes to hide loading times, thats 99% of it. QUOTE]

MGS4 must be one massive 1%. Its got the chunkiest, drawn-out, unnecessarily expositiony cut-scenes ever, and then a billion loading screens as well.

I HATE HATE HATE cut-scenes. I LURVE games that eliminate them entirely and put all story into the game world, like Bioshock. Absolutely superb. That's the way it should be. Fallout 3 and Half Life 2 are well done too because you participate in everything. They never take control away from you.

MGS4 is top notch in many ways, but it hardly trusts you to do anything!

I like cut-scenes

... I hate when my feelings are wrong.

solarrdadd · 10-14-2009, 02:59 PM

Wow, i'm sure glad this cut-scene thing came along, I was getting tired of worried about folks losing their homes, world peace and folks going to bed with no food but thank the Lord this cut-scene issue popped up!

I'm gonna sleep a lot better tonight!

king_patrick_7 · 10-14-2009, 03:22 PM

the only thing that bothered me with the cutscenes is that there were too many of them early on... maybe I was just too excited to start playing and got impatient have to watch the story build up first

bhampton · 10-14-2009, 03:24 PM

This is why I'm not going to buy it.

(Not because I don't have a spare $60.

)

-Brian

Bizdady · 10-14-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by king_patrick_7

the only thing that bothered me with the cutscenes is that there were too many of them early on... maybe I was just too excited to start playing and got impatient have to watch the story build up first

I feel you! The first 3 chapters were grueling!! I just wanted to get out and kill badies!!

HomeTheaterVirgin · 10-14-2009, 03:39 PM

I still have my Uncharted 2 in the car..lol.I have been too busy playing MW getting ready for Mw2 biggest game of the year.Any who I loved the cut scenes in the first one even if there alot in this one Im sure its gona be okay because they make it almost like a movie.

KilloWertz · 10-14-2009, 09:38 PM

I'm going to go the lazy route and just say I like the game the way it is. I think the cutscenes are great.

Krejaton · 10-14-2009, 10:31 PM

What I hate is loading screens--nothing takes me out of the storyline faster. So cutscenes don't bug me because 1) it moves the story along; 2) stops those damn loading screens; and 3) given me a chance to catch my breath!

Weirded Wonder · 10-14-2009, 10:40 PM

I think I've watched more cutscenes than have actually played the game. I've been skipping them.

Blu-Generation · 10-14-2009, 10:57 PM

So basically this thread is about annoying cutscenes in a game that said it was going to have cutscenes. And then people chipping in about not buying it.

Basically, this thread is a party shiiter. lol Anyway, great game.

What's so annoying about cutscenes you can skip? At least you're not force to watch it from start to finish.

To me, the cutscenes looked awesome!
I'm not much in the technical side of things, if it looks great, that's fine enough for me. With or without it being real-time and what not. And if there's no installs, or load time, that's even better!

pmac · 10-14-2009, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhampton

This is why I'm not going to buy it.

(Not because I don't have a spare $60.

)

-Brian

I am sure you weren't going to buy it anyways without having this thread here as some excuse. It's ok not to buy it, you don't need to blame something like cutscenes for not wanting it.

Psybits · 10-15-2009, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhampton

This is why I'm not going to buy it.

(Not because I don't have a spare $60.

)

-Brian

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmac

I am sure you weren't going to buy it anyways without having this thread here as some excuse. It's ok not to buy it, you don't need to blame something like cutscenes for not wanting it.

^ I don't know..but I think I see a hint of sarcasm in his post

Mermen79 · 10-15-2009, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blu-Generation

So basically this thread is about annoying cutscenes in a game that said it was going to have cutscenes. And then people chipping in about not buying it.

Basically, this thread is a party shiiter. lol Anyway, great game.

What's so annoying about cutscenes you can skip? At least you're not force to watch it from start to finish.

To me, the cutscenes looked awesome!
I'm not much in the technical side of things, if it looks great, that's fine enough for me. With or without it being real-time and what not. And if there's no installs, or load time, that's even better!

You really inferred the wrong things from my post. I LOVE the cutscenes and wish there were even more. However, I'm annoyed that they aren't rendered real time and that the video uses a low bit rate. I would think that this being the BLU RAY forum, people would care or agree about the quality. Guess not. I don't accept bad artifacting in this day and age on a blu ray disc.

Load times aren't so bad but I guess people here are SO impatient that a 5 second wait will break the experience. I would of traded no load times for real time cut scenes anyday.

somchair1 · 10-15-2009, 03:53 AM

I like the cutscenes because it makes it feel more like a movie that you are controlling (sort of), but I get where you are coming from if you change your outfit and all but that doesn't bother me...

saprano · 10-15-2009, 05:20 AM

Aint the cut scenes in real time?

jamesdevil · 10-15-2009, 05:32 AM

Total nitpicking. The 'cut scenes' look fantastic and are nearly seamless. The most important thing and the reason they exist is their content and progressing an awesome story forward which they do incredibly well.

10-14-2009, 10:06 AM	#1
Mermen79 Senior Member Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:3	Uncharted 2 - annoyed at cutscenes. Please read I always prefer games to have real time cutscenes just like how Resident Evil 5 was. I was disapointed that Uncharted 1 used pre-recorded video. The main drawbacks are potential compression artifacts and my worst game pet peeve, bonus costumes not showing up in cutscenes. From when I heard Uncharted 2 was announced, I really hoped ND would make it FULL real time. I got the game today and it's an incredible experience but it still uses pre-recorded scenes. You can actually see a lot of artifacts (snow scenes) due to them using a low bit rate. Oh well, it doesn't break the experience but I would of liked to watched the cutscenes in my bonus costumes. I'm a bit surprised that ND didn't use a really high video bit rate to make up for the pre-recorded video sequences. They've talked a lot about the BD's disc size so I would've thought they would use up that space, 50gb need it be. I would like to discuss this in gaming forums but most people there have no clue what I'm talking about.

10-14-2009, 10:57 PM	#14
Blu-Generation Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:1	So basically this thread is about annoying cutscenes in a game that said it was going to have cutscenes. And then people chipping in about not buying it. Basically, this thread is a party shiiter. lol Anyway, great game. What's so annoying about cutscenes you can skip? At least you're not force to watch it from start to finish. To me, the cutscenes looked awesome! I'm not much in the technical side of things, if it looks great, that's fine enough for me. With or without it being real-time and what not. And if there's no installs, or load time, that's even better! Last edited by Blu-Generation; 10-14-2009 at 11:03 PM.

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10-14-2009, 10:17 AM	#2
RiseDarthVader Power Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Australia Blu-ray collection:136	It's because if they had cutscenes that rendered on the fly they wouldn't have textures of a high enough resolution to hold up to close ups.

10-14-2009, 01:43 PM	#4
bygberbrown Active Member Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Sydney, Australia Home Theater Gallery:1 Blu-ray collection:356 DVD collection:107 Blu-ray reviews:19	[QUOTE=blitz6speed;2420693]Its video cutscenes to hide loading times, thats 99% of it. QUOTE] MGS4 must be one massive 1%. Its got the chunkiest, drawn-out, unnecessarily expositiony cut-scenes ever, and then a billion loading screens as well. I HATE HATE HATE cut-scenes. I LURVE games that eliminate them entirely and put all story into the game world, like Bioshock. Absolutely superb. That's the way it should be. Fallout 3 and Half Life 2 are well done too because you participate in everything. They never take control away from you. MGS4 is top notch in many ways, but it hardly trusts you to do anything!

10-14-2009, 02:59 PM	#6
solarrdadd Blu-ray Prince Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Virginia Home Theater Gallery:255 4K collection:209 Blu-ray collection:1344 DVD collection:4 Blu-ray reviews: 42 Trading Score:316	Wow, i'm sure glad this cut-scene thing came along, I was getting tired of worried about folks losing their homes, world peace and folks going to bed with no food but thank the Lord this cut-scene issue popped up! I'm gonna sleep a lot better tonight!

10-14-2009, 03:22 PM	#7
king_patrick_7 Special Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Toronto, Ontario Home Theater Gallery:14 Blu-ray collection:29 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:12	the only thing that bothered me with the cutscenes is that there were too many of them early on... maybe I was just too excited to start playing and got impatient have to watch the story build up first

10-14-2009, 03:24 PM	#8
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:981 Blu-ray collection:2537 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	This is why I'm not going to buy it. (Not because I don't have a spare $60. ) -Brian

10-14-2009, 03:39 PM	#10
HomeTheaterVirgin Banned Member since:Jun 2009 Home Theater Gallery:7	I still have my Uncharted 2 in the car..lol.I have been too busy playing MW getting ready for Mw2 biggest game of the year.Any who I loved the cut scenes in the first one even if there alot in this one Im sure its gona be okay because they make it almost like a movie.

10-14-2009, 09:38 PM	#11
KilloWertz Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Columbiana, OH 4K collection:61 Blu-ray collection:1042 DVD collection:65 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:82	I'm going to go the lazy route and just say I like the game the way it is. I think the cutscenes are great.

10-14-2009, 10:31 PM	#12
Krejaton Active Member Member since:Mar 2009	What I hate is loading screens--nothing takes me out of the storyline faster. So cutscenes don't bug me because 1) it moves the story along; 2) stops those damn loading screens; and 3) given me a chance to catch my breath!

10-14-2009, 10:40 PM	#13
Weirded Wonder Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:May 2009 Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:593 Blu-ray collection:1177 Trading Score:51	I think I've watched more cutscenes than have actually played the game. I've been skipping them.

10-15-2009, 03:53 AM	#18
somchair1 Active Member Member since:Feb 2008 4K collection:82 Blu-ray collection:504	I like the cutscenes because it makes it feel more like a movie that you are controlling (sort of), but I get where you are coming from if you change your outfit and all but that doesn't bother me...

10-15-2009, 05:20 AM	#19
saprano Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Bronx, New York Blu-ray collection:495 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	Aint the cut scenes in real time?

10-15-2009, 05:32 AM	#20
jamesdevil Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Raleigh, NC 4K collection:640 Blu-ray collection:987 DVD collection:18 MA collection:571 Digital collection:25 iTunes collection:119 Trading Score:20	Total nitpicking. The 'cut scenes' look fantastic and are nearly seamless. The most important thing and the reason they exist is their content and progressing an awesome story forward which they do incredibly well.

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