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Old 06-07-2009, 11:45 PM   #1
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This may have come up multiple times before, but I'm a newbie and the search function didnt do much for me.


Someone told me once that around a certain measurement, most people can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. I was looking at a 32" 1080p TV. Can some people see a difference between the two at that size?


Kinda of a judgmental question, but though Id ask.
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Old 06-07-2009, 11:49 PM   #2
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What distance will you be from the TV?
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Old 06-07-2009, 11:50 PM   #3
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Some people can, some cant. I can. Can you? Because thats all thats important. Technology only moves forward. 1080p is the standard. Why buy a 720p set? Spend the extra money and do it right. IMO, lol
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Old 06-07-2009, 11:57 PM   #4
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This may have come up multiple times before, but I'm a newbie and the search function didnt do much for me.


Someone told me once that around a certain measurement, most people can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. I was looking at a 32" 1080p TV. Can some people see a difference between the two at that size?


Kinda of a judgmental question, but though Id ask.
I have a Sharp Aquos 32" 1080p. I can see a difference from about 4 feet away, but only slightly.
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Old 06-08-2009, 12:03 AM   #5
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Some people can, some cant. I can. Can you? Because thats all thats important. Technology only moves forward. 1080p is the standard. Why buy a 720p set? Spend the extra money and do it right. IMO, lol
I was reading around awhile ago and as it turns out there are no true 720p displays on the market (1280 x 720). The 2 dominant resolutions are 1366 x 768 and 1024 x 768.

After this discovery I asked myself how a panel that is not 720p can be marketted as an HDTV. It turns out there is a loophole in the standards that the CEA (Consumer Electronics Association) ruled must be met for a panel to be claimed as HD. The technical definition is a panel capable of displaying a minimum of a 720p signal although it may no longer be in the 1280 x 720 format.

This partially explains why some people claim they can indeed spot a difference. The human eye is very sensitive to vertical lines of resolution, this is why you will notice in these sets the vertical resolution is always the same (768). When it comes to horizontal lines of resolution the eye is less proficient in detecting these lines and manufacturers can exploit this to produce a cheaper panel (1024 x 768).

The only way to view a true 1280 x 720p signal is to buy a front projection unit.

I'm rambling... just buy the 1080p set

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Old 06-08-2009, 12:08 AM   #6
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What most reviews/reviewers(and people that parrot them) seem to miss is the distance from the display being viewed.

Sure! From 8 - 10 feet away, you *WILL* need a 60" or bigger HDTV to resolve 1080p correctly.

But, if you aren't sitting that far away from the display, 1080p *CAN* be seen, and appreciated, on smaller displays.

I sit 5.5 to 6 feet away from my 42" - pretty close to ideal.

http://www.myhometheater.homestead.c...alculator.html

Scroll down.
Input your information and click Calculate.
Some here like to post some tired chart - disregard it!
That chart is one of the things I described above(Viewing Distance is ignored/not considered).

Hope this helps!
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Old 06-08-2009, 12:13 AM   #7
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Some people can, some cant. I can. Can you? Because thats all thats important. Technology only moves forward. 1080p is the standard. Why buy a 720p set? Spend the extra money and do it right. IMO, lol
I cant tell 720p from 1080p on a 32" or smaller from 8' away but. I agree 720p is old school now. why get old technology. for our bedroom we got a T240HD samsung 24", 1080p, 10,000:1, 2 HDMI's, 1 DVI, 1 VGA, and 1 component. and we love it. for Blu-ray in the bedroom. go 1080p
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Old 06-08-2009, 01:30 AM   #8
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It shouldn't be very easy to see the difference between a 720p and 1080p in a 32" for resolution. One thing that i find when people say they notice a difference is actually the fact that they're more than likely comparing a higher end model when looking at a 1080p vs the 720p. The contrast ratios, colors, processors and other factors are typically much better in a 1080p tv vs a 720p, for the reason stated above, especially in a 32". That's most likely where you'll notice a PQ difference rather than in the resolution.
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Old 06-08-2009, 02:01 AM   #9
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IMO, from 6 feet or less you may notice it, if you are any further out you will not notice 1080p from 720p. For my bedroom I went 720 cause I am 12 feet away, why spend the extra money on something I am not going to be taking advantage of?? Picture quality is excellent, looks as good as my 1080p 40" from 6 feet away.
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I have a Sharp Aquos 32" 1080p. I can see a difference from about 4 feet away, but only slightly.
Same here.
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Old 06-08-2009, 09:26 AM   #11
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I cant tell 720p from 1080p on a 32" or smaller from 8' away but. I agree 720p is old school now. why get old technology. for our bedroom we got a T240HD samsung 24", 1080p, 10,000:1, 2 HDMI's, 1 DVI, 1 VGA, and 1 component. and we love it. for Blu-ray in the bedroom. go 1080p
Unless you watch your 24 inch screen from a distance of like 3 feet, 1080p is a waste of money. The increased resolution will be lost unless you've got the keenest eagle eyes in the world.

I'm all for aiming for 1080p in smaller sizes if it's worth it, but most of the time its simply not going to be. Most people don't even make effective use of their large 1080p screens. Many claims people might make of how much better it is would be all placebo effect, no better than the folks watching SD content on their HDTVs and beaming about how clear and awesome it is.
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Old 06-08-2009, 04:13 PM   #12
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Thanks guys.

I bought the TV. I wanted an LG model for $800, but Best Buy didnt have it so the let me havea $1000 Sony for that price. At first I had it about 5-6 feet away then it was boggling my mind a bit (my old TV was a 20"), especially when I used my 360 in its widescreen glory, so I pushed it further back another foot. I'm wondering if a slightly bigger tv at that distance may be better, but I have some price checking to do.

EDIT: Whats the next measurement up from 32" that tvs come in? Do they come in 34"? I havent seen any....

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Old 06-08-2009, 04:44 PM   #13
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I believe Ive seen 37's.
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Old 06-24-2009, 12:22 PM   #14
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I have a 37'' FullHD and compared it and it is a drastic difference between 720p and 1080p.
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Old 06-24-2009, 06:06 PM   #15
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if you can get 1080p.... why not?!? its not that much of a price difference.
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Old 06-24-2009, 06:30 PM   #16
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depends on how far you are sitting. <4 feet you will notice the 1080p. if not save the money or get a bigger TV

for 1k you can get a sweet Samsung LCD.

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next size is 37" then 40"
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Originally Posted by Blue Jester View Post
This may have come up multiple times before, but I'm a newbie and the search function didnt do much for me.


Someone told me once that around a certain measurement, most people can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. I was looking at a 32" 1080p TV. Can some people see a difference between the two at that size?


Kinda of a judgmental question, but though Id ask.
I know this might sound radical to you. But please at least consider
a 40" or even a (God Forbid) a 46". it's basically a one time purchase
and it should last 10 years. The larger screens do enable a little more comfortable viewing and what the heck . . will also enable you some bragging
rights to your friends. (not THAT important)

Right now, the marketing of 32" sets, to me anyway, appears to be due to the fact that 32" TV's can be shown in ads for - -$499, $699, $899.

Trust me, once you get into the store they will try like anything to get you
to spend more. Sadly, bait and switch in the era of HDTV.

!080p, today, is the only way to go. 1080p looks better on a bigger screen.

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Old 06-24-2009, 07:38 PM   #19
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I used to had sharp 32" 1080p, it was a top hdtv back then in 07, great review, but with tv that small, i sugest you just get 720p, well price isn't much of factor for 1080p 32" this day, back then i has to paid like $1000 for 32" 1080p now is half of that.
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Anyone that tells you 1080p is only worth having based on a particular screen size doesn't know what they're talking about. Your VIEWING distance along with your screen size is what matters.

http://carltonbale.com/2006/11/1080p-does-matter/
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