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Old 05-29-2009, 03:13 AM   #1
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USA Which Sub has the best bang for the buck?

BIC VK-12

Outlaw LFM-1

Elemental Designs A2 - 300

Premier Acoustic PA-120

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Old 05-29-2009, 03:17 AM   #2
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Personal preference aside, the A2-300 is an easy choice if your budget and WAF is up to it.
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Old 05-29-2009, 05:03 AM   #3
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i would have to give it to the pa120... but thats only because i own 2 of them,, sounds great..

460bux worth of great budget sub... and i have no regret..

here is a quick review to my review aswell as someone elses..


movies.. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post16316261

music.. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post16316546

here is someone elses review..
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post16320452
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:22 PM   #4
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Since your looking for quality with the best price, I would say it is the PA-120, but the eD A2-300 is a very, very close second. If eD had not raised the price of it from $350 to $400 recently, I would have said this sub has the most bang for the buck hands down.
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:29 PM   #5
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Since your looking for quality with the best price, I would say it is the PA-120, but the eD A2-300 is a very, very close second. If eD had not raised the price of it from $350 to $400 recently, I would have said this sub has the most bang for the buck hands down.
Check the price again...

http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_...roducts_id=407
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:31 PM   #6
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......now where did I put my check book?

OP, go with the eD, as it went back down in price....wooohooo!

Thanks Jason!
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Old 05-29-2009, 01:01 PM   #7
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JEDI MIND TRICKS!!!



Premier Acoustic PA-120 is almost 600!..


you can get two Elemental Designs A2 - 300 for on Only 100 dollars extra...Only


you had ur mind made up already...now.....HMM!?
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Old 05-29-2009, 01:11 PM   #8
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JEDI MIND TRICKS!!!



Premier Acoustic PA-120 is almost 600!..


you can get two Elemental Designs A2 - 300 for on Only 100 dollars extra...Only


you had ur mind made up already...now.....HMM!?
I see it still for only $229 on this site.....

http://www.homespeakersdirect.com/cl...d=197&offset=0
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Old 05-29-2009, 01:44 PM   #9
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two good budget subs will sound better than one good sub and at a better price
dual PA-120's cost 460bux

while dual A2-300's will cost 700bux

multiple subs serve several purposes....
help fill in bass in larger rooms
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smooth out bass response
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u get greater sound at a lower volume so u dont have to run the subs as high as you would a single sub

im sure the A2-300 sounds great ,, but is that extra cost worth it... thats the question u should ask yourself

no matter what u get im sure you will be pleased
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Any opinions on the BIC VK-12, good or bad?
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Old 05-29-2009, 02:40 PM   #11
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I think the best bang for the buck is the AV123 MFW-15 on sale for $200 off. Considered a good deal at full price it is a steal right now. Of course you have to believe that they have put the amp issues behind them. I do and ordered one yesterday.

Out of your list I'd go with eD. If you are just talking performance (not size, finish, etc..) I'd say it is the best for the money.
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two good budget subs will sound better than one good sub and at a better price
dual PA-120's cost 460bux

while dual A2-300's will cost 700bux

multiple subs serve several purposes....
help fill in bass in larger rooms
and
smooth out bass response
and
u get greater sound at a lower volume so u dont have to run the subs as high as you would a single sub

im sure the A2-300 sounds great ,, but is that extra cost worth it... thats the question u should ask yourself

no matter what u get im sure you will be pleased
Really? I'm VERY close to pulling the trigger on the Elemental Designs A2 - 300 but the 2 Sub theory has me second guessing myself.

Would anyone else care to chime in on this and enlighten me?
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Really? I'm VERY close to pulling the trigger on the Elemental Designs A2 - 300 but the 2 Sub theory has me second guessing myself.

Would anyone else care to chime in on this and enlighten me?
Buy 2 A2-300's
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Old 05-30-2009, 01:17 AM   #14
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Really? I'm VERY close to pulling the trigger on the Elemental Designs A2 - 300 but the 2 Sub theory has me second guessing myself.

Would anyone else care to chime in on this and enlighten me?
How about this; You purchase one A2-300 now, and when you absolutely fall in love with it (which you will), you can go ahead and charge another A2-300 to your credit card.
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Old 05-30-2009, 01:21 AM   #15
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I would want the lower bass extension of the A2-300. My room is large, and it is plenty room filling by itself. If you get an itch, you can always add one later down the road.
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I would want the lower bass extension of the A2-300. My room is large, and it is plenty room filling by itself. If you get an itch, you can always add one later down the road.
I'm just looking to get the best bass experience for the $$$

I can get 2 of PA-120's for $330.00 (eBay coupons & what not) or for $20 more 1 A2-300. errrr this has become much more difficult then it was suppose to be!!!
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two good budget subs will sound better than one good sub and at a better price dual PA-120's cost 460bux - while dual A2-300's will cost 700 bux

multiple subs serve several purposes.... help fill in bass in larger rooms and
smooth out bass response and u get greater sound at a lower volume so u dont have to run the subs as high as you would a single sub.

im sure the A2-300 sounds great ,, but is that extra cost worth it... thats the question u should ask yourself - no matter what u get im sure you will be pleased
+1. I have a "smaller" room (11x13) but I have 2 PSW-10's, lesser subs than the ones discussed here maybe, but the DUAL SUB set-up Definitely Equals things out all considered. If your room is not Huge, I'd seriously consider this vice One A2-300, esp. for the money factor. You can get 2 of the PA-120's for almost the price of ONE A2-300. To me, it's a no-brainer. IF I Only had more $$$$, I'd prob. have went the 2 PA-120 route. But i'm quite happy with my gear. In 6 months or a year, I may consider upgrading. For now, I'm good.

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How about this; You purchase one A2-300 now, and when you absolutely fall in love with it (which you will), you can go ahead and charge another A2-300 to your credit card.
Lol - DK, too funny. If only we All had $$$$$$$ to burn thru for endeavors such as this.

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I would want the lower bass extension of the A2-300. My room is large, and it is plenty room filling by itself. If you get an itch, you can always add one later down the road.
Good point aso. How large a room we talking here?
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How large a room we talking here?
currently not very big 11x15....However it does open up into another approximately 11x15 room (basement set up divided by steps).

You made a good argument and now I'm starting to lean towards the two (2) PA-120's.

Any additional input is greatly appreciated.
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:52 AM   #19
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im using my phone to text... but read the stickies.... BIG DADDY has provided a wealth of information regarding multi sub setups.....
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We had a member here go from a Dual PA120 setup to dual A3-300 subwoofers and he said the difference was night and day. If not eD, AV123 is supposed to be shipping their MFW15 subwoofers with the new, upgraded amps later this month. That may be something worth looking into.
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