PS3 History. - Blu-ray Forum

BluManta · 07-04-2007, 12:09 AM

Here is a few posts from years ago through to now. Just look at how wrong we were, or how right we were. The rumors and the outcomes. Its quite funny really.

Rob, 10/23/2004 =
My understanding of the situation is that the UMD's used in the PSP are a seperate format created by Sony. I'm sure that they would not want to share any of their profits with the Blu-Ray group in terms of liscensing fees for the format. Obviously Sony has announced that the PS3 will use BD-Roms and will play pre-recorded Blu-Ray discs. I have also heard that there may well be a newer version of the PS2 that also plays pre-recorded Blu-Ray discs. Whether this will be an newer version of the PSX or what I don't know. However, I'm 99% sure that the the disc PSP wwill use is not a small Blu-Ray disc. Right.

Psychogenicscc 11/20/2004=
1) Most Games on PS2 and Xbox are on DVD.... Xbox games are on DVD since day one. PC games also come on DVD. I highly think that X2 will either use a HD-DVD format but it will be properitery. I think that only PS3 will have Blu-ray and maybe N5. Right and Wrong.

Tron3 11/19/2004 =
Blu-ray on PS3 and X-Box 2. Right and Wrong.

Thunderhawk 10/01/2005 =
Bad news for PS3?

On the japanses website Zakzak was written that the developers would pass for PS3, in favor of Xbox 360. Automatic translating services on the net can hardly decypther what the text really says so its unclear if it is a rumour or reality. Because the delopment coasts for PS3 are too high - these go up to 20 million dollar - the devopers would only go for Xbox 360. Also, PS3 will be more expensive than the MS console. While MS will make losses to their console (some 100 dollar every sold console) it would be a loss of billions to the company, had Sony to reorganise their comany to gain profit again. It would make Sony unable to compete to MS.

Hardcoregamer 04/22/2004 =
The only way we as consumers can be sure Sony will integrate the Blue-ray disc hardware into the PS3 is to tell them how we feel. If they see the support for it in numbers, then there is always a better chance.

That is why I propose a petition -starting now- to have the PS3 include the BRD hardware into its next generation console. All those other gamers out there know what I mean! We want the best graphics, sound, and gameplay. And with the BRD format, not only will Sony upscale all the competetion, but lead the way into the future of technology.

Who's with me??? Right, But so wrong.

Thunderhawk 08/07/2005
PlayStation 3 might be delayed until 2007

Sony may delay the release of the PlayStation 3 console until 2007 if right conditions prevail, GameSpot writes.

According to Wedbush Morgan Securities Sony might delay the release if Microsoft drops the price of the 1st generation Xbox to no lower than $99, and if the Xbox 360 console is not a huge success at launch. In that case Sony might drop the price of PlayStation 2 to $99, which would still bring the company profit.

The reasoning behind the strategy is that dropping the PS2 price would disrupt the Xbox 360 launch. In that scenario Microsoft would be selling both the Xbox (at $99) and Xbox 360 (at $299.99?) at loss, while Sony would still be making profit with PS2.

It is quite unlikely that Xbox 360 would do so bad at launch that Sony could afford delaying the launch of PS3. Then again the plan could save Sony alot of money. It is estimated that Sony could lose more than $1 billion on PS3 hardware.

Source: GameSpot Right.

Reply to Thunderhawk ^^^ by erdega79 =
no chance of that happening. none!!!
PS3 compares favourably to xbox and it's sony, come on, they have reputation and PS3 is currently their biggest product.
I think they are already playing it safe by planing it for next spring, may-june probably Wrong.

Reply to erdrega79 ^^^by nyg =

I agree, PS3 will be out by next June at the latest. Sony doesn't just have PS3 on the line, they've got a new format in Blu-ray that's on the line. Having PS3 come out sooner will do wonders in making sure Blu-ray is the replacement to DVD. Sony will take the initial loss on PS3 hardware knowing that they'll come out way ahead in the end. Wrong.

Gamekid 03/15/2006 =
With a later launch, Sony has more time to meet the high demand for the console. Unlike Microsoft, I don't think that Sony will have a shortage of PS3's to hand out. A console shortage is a nightmare to both Sony and the gamers. No one wants a shortage of PS3's Right.

Sidewinder 03/15/2006
Worldwide release in November 2006...allthough I don't think we'll see that much PS3s in our shops here in Europe Right.

Well thats it. I just thought it would be funny to bring this back.

Shin-Ra · 07-04-2007, 12:16 AM

I'd rather just look to the future at the moment, lots of great games coming!

BluManta · 07-04-2007, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Shin-Ra

I'd rather just look to the future at the moment, lots of great games coming!

Okay, Kinda not what the post was about but hey. The future of PS3 just gets better. No doubt there will be loads of delays in games but the ps3 is the future!

takezo · 07-04-2007, 05:47 PM

With, new system with lot of hype, they are bound to have tons of rumors and speculations.

However I have not posted at this fourm that far back, but i have told people in other forums that Nintendo will make a comeback. And so far, so good.

It proves that graphics is not everything which I was trying desperately to convey. However blinded core gamers will never understand. It took a $400 video card on my PC and have it be completley outdated in less than a year later to full realize the flaws of "Next Gen gaming", and to bash this very notion of gaming with better (or at least very unique

) gameplay over graphics into my thick core gamer skull.

Here I am 2 years later, with the same video card, running games at lower resolutions but not careing, have PS3 just for BLu-ray movies (Movies Must Be in HD!

), A Wii with 5 games. And Wiis Sold out all over town.

Gamekid · 07-04-2007, 05:55 PM

I remember reading a lot of material about the ps3. How it would flop and nobody would get one and no one would want to make any games for it. I think about this. Sony doesn't charge a dime for being online at the playstation store or just browsing the web. This will be expanded with HOME. Can microsoft beat this? They charge a yearly subscription for xbox live, which isn't that expensive, however you still have to pay for it compared to sony. If more people turn to HOME, then how is microsoft going to combat this?

movies3 · 07-04-2007, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gamekid

I remember reading a lot of material about the ps3. How it would flop and nobody would get one and no one would want to make any games for it. I think about this. Sony doesn't charge a dime for being online at the playstation store or just browsing the web. This will be expanded with HOME. Can microsoft beat this? They charge a yearly subscription for xbox live, which isn't that expensive, however you still have to pay for it compared to sony. If more people turn to HOME, then how is microsoft going to combat this?

i agree with you on so many levels, the free online gaming kills the xbox any day IMO. and it will only get better with more updates.

BluManta · 07-04-2007, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by movies3

i agree with you on so many levels, the free online gaming kills the xbox any day IMO. and it will only get better with more updates.

Your just agreeing because gamekid was right before LMAO. Joking. But It does make a huge difference. The first time I heard of home it amazed me. I knew right then Xbox Live was in trouble. And from what I've heard from people who have tested it, including Shin-ra, it sounds good.

Shin-Ra · 07-04-2007, 10:06 PM

I haven't told you NUFFINK'!

Gamekid · 07-04-2007, 10:16 PM

If microsoft wants to combat sony's Home program, they need something big? A price drop wouldn't cut it. Would I bet any money that when sony puts up Home, some xbox 360 fans will switch to sony and then microsoft will admit that they can't top sony's home program?

BluManta · 07-04-2007, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin-Ra

I haven't told you NUFFINK'!

Yeah you did, On the ps3. Isit a secret or something???

You do know I'm LDUK right?

You told me you thought it was good and I should check some naughtily posted reviews on the net. Then I asked you if you had and ideas where I can find them and you said no. Remember???

BluManta · 07-04-2007, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gamekid

If microsoft wants to combat sony's Home program, they need something big? A price drop wouldn't cut it. Would I bet any money that when sony puts up Home, some xbox 360 fans will switch to sony and then microsoft will admit that they can't top sony's home program?

Or they just copy it.

Shin-Ra · 07-04-2007, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BluManta

Yeah you did, On the ps3. Isit a secret or something???

You do know I'm LDUK right?

You told me you thought it was good and I should check some naughtily posted reviews on the net. Then I asked you if you had and ideas where I can find them and you said no. Remember???

Oh right, so I told you it was 'good'.. I really spilled the beans with that one.

BluManta · 07-04-2007, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin-Ra

Oh right, so I told you it was 'good'.. I really spilled the beans with that one.

You gotta watch what you say round here. I think you let too much out lol. I did say 'Good'.

Gamekid · 07-05-2007, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluManta

Or they just copy it.

If microsoft copied sony, I don't see how they could make it better.

BluManta · 07-05-2007, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gamekid

If microsoft copied sony, I don't see how they could make it better.

Yeah but Microsoft are bastards, they will copy it if its the best they can do. And it is. What else can they do? LMAO!

MrEastSide · 07-05-2007, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gamekid

I remember reading a lot of material about the ps3. How it would flop and nobody would get one and no one would want to make any games for it. I think about this. Sony doesn't charge a dime for being online at the playstation store or just browsing the web. This will be expanded with HOME. Can microsoft beat this? They charge a yearly subscription for xbox live, which isn't that expensive, however you still have to pay for it compared to sony. If more people turn to HOME, then how is microsoft going to combat this?

Well, at this point it doesn't seem like anyone wants to make any games for it. What is everyone waiting for right now? MGS4... One game... Where are all the other games? They've either been bad ports or games that the 360 has had for 6 months to a year already.

I'm not knocking the PS3 as I have both consoles and I do like the Playstation name, but even I will admit when there is a lack of good software out there. And if you look around it would seem that a lot of the world doesn't want a PS3. The PS2 sold like mad for the first year and it was nearly impossible to find one. Well, you could find PS3s pretty much anywhere after 2-3 weeks of it's launch. And that's not because SONY made enough. It's because nobody was buying them. I know, I work at a retailer and trust me, the same ones sat on our shelves for weeks and didn't move.

BluManta · 07-05-2007, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MrEastSide

Well, at this point it doesn't seem like anyone wants to make any games for it. What is everyone waiting for right now? MGS4... One game... Where are all the other games? They've either been bad ports or games that the 360 has had for 6 months to a year already.

I'm not knocking the PS3 as I have both consoles and I do like the Playstation name, but even I will admit when there is a lack of good software out there. And if you look around it would seem that a lot of the world doesn't want a PS3. The PS2 sold like mad for the first year and it was nearly impossible to find one. Well, you could find PS3s pretty much anywhere after 2-3 weeks of it's launch. And that's not because SONY made enough. It's because nobody was buying them. I know, I work at a retailer and trust me, the same ones sat on our shelves for weeks and didn't move.

Actually your wrong. Sony made alot of PS3's. It was put up in most places that shops still had loads left. But thats because they made so much! Look how many PS3 are sold! Over 3,000,000. How is that not many??? And RFoM is a great game, and Motorstorm. Were waiting for Haze too m8. And Final Fantacy. And Wipeout, and The Getaway, and Lair.

NeoTechni · 07-05-2007, 05:15 PM

Eastside has a point though. The negative press and Wii are affecting developer confidence. I am getting very annoyed with all the reports of some whiney developer cancelling the PS3 version, or changing it from an exclusive to a 360-shared or 360-exclusive.

Now I love my PS3, but this is a problem. And despite Sony's claims that they don't pay for exclusives, maybe they should start. The 360 version of GTA is going to get more sales cause people are seeing the potential for a longer game with the exclusive content. MS will make their money back.

Gamekid · 07-05-2007, 06:18 PM

How can microsoft top sony's home program?

movies3 · 07-05-2007, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin-Ra

I haven't told you NUFFINK'!

haha dont lie..

07-04-2007, 12:09 AM	#1
BluManta Banned Member since:Feb 2007 Location:LONDON, FELTHAM PSN ID: LDUK	PS3 History. Here is a few posts from years ago through to now. Just look at how wrong we were, or how right we were. The rumors and the outcomes. Its quite funny really. *Rob, 10/23/2004 =* My understanding of the situation is that the UMD's used in the PSP are a seperate format created by Sony. I'm sure that they would not want to share any of their profits with the Blu-Ray group in terms of liscensing fees for the format. Obviously Sony has announced that the PS3 will use BD-Roms and will play pre-recorded Blu-Ray discs. I have also heard that there may well be a newer version of the PS2 that also plays pre-recorded Blu-Ray discs. Whether this will be an newer version of the PSX or what I don't know. However, I'm 99% sure that the the disc PSP wwill use is not a small Blu-Ray disc. Right. *Psychogenicscc 11/20/2004=* 1) Most Games on PS2 and Xbox are on DVD.... Xbox games are on DVD since day one. PC games also come on DVD. I highly think that X2 will either use a HD-DVD format but it will be properitery. I think that only PS3 will have Blu-ray and maybe N5. Right and Wrong. *Tron3 11/19/2004 =* Blu-ray on PS3 and X-Box 2. Right and Wrong. *Thunderhawk 10/01/2005 =* Bad news for PS3? On the japanses website Zakzak was written that the developers would pass for PS3, in favor of Xbox 360. Automatic translating services on the net can hardly decypther what the text really says so its unclear if it is a rumour or reality. Because the delopment coasts for PS3 are too high - these go up to 20 million dollar - the devopers would only go for Xbox 360. Also, PS3 will be more expensive than the MS console. While MS will make losses to their console (some 100 dollar every sold console) it would be a loss of billions to the company, had Sony to reorganise their comany to gain profit again. It would make Sony unable to compete to MS. Hardcoregamer 04/22/2004 = The only way we as consumers can be sure Sony will integrate the Blue-ray disc hardware into the PS3 is to tell them how we feel. If they see the support for it in numbers, then there is always a better chance. That is why I propose a petition -starting now- to have the PS3 include the BRD hardware into its next generation console. All those other gamers out there know what I mean! We want the best graphics, sound, and gameplay. And with the BRD format, not only will Sony upscale all the competetion, but lead the way into the future of technology. Who's with me??? Right, But so wrong. *Thunderhawk 08/07/2005* PlayStation 3 might be delayed until 2007 Sony may delay the release of the PlayStation 3 console until 2007 if right conditions prevail, GameSpot writes. According to Wedbush Morgan Securities Sony might delay the release if Microsoft drops the price of the 1st generation Xbox to no lower than $99, and if the Xbox 360 console is not a huge success at launch. In that case Sony might drop the price of PlayStation 2 to $99, which would still bring the company profit. The reasoning behind the strategy is that dropping the PS2 price would disrupt the Xbox 360 launch. In that scenario Microsoft would be selling both the Xbox (at $99) and Xbox 360 (at $299.99?) at loss, while Sony would still be making profit with PS2. It is quite unlikely that Xbox 360 would do so bad at launch that Sony could afford delaying the launch of PS3. Then again the plan could save Sony alot of money. It is estimated that Sony could lose more than $1 billion on PS3 hardware. Source: GameSpot Right. Reply to Thunderhawk ^^^ by erdega79 = no chance of that happening. none!!! PS3 compares favourably to xbox and it's sony, come on, they have reputation and PS3 is currently their biggest product. I think they are already playing it safe by planing it for next spring, may-june probably Wrong. *Reply to erdrega79 ^^^by nyg =* I agree, PS3 will be out by next June at the latest. Sony doesn't just have PS3 on the line, they've got a new format in Blu-ray that's on the line. Having PS3 come out sooner will do wonders in making sure Blu-ray is the replacement to DVD. Sony will take the initial loss on PS3 hardware knowing that they'll come out way ahead in the end. Wrong. *Gamekid 03/15/2006 =* With a later launch, Sony has more time to meet the high demand for the console. Unlike Microsoft, I don't think that Sony will have a shortage of PS3's to hand out. A console shortage is a nightmare to both Sony and the gamers. No one wants a shortage of PS3's Right. *Sidewinder 03/15/2006* Worldwide release in November 2006...allthough I don't think we'll see that much PS3s in our shops here in Europe Right. Well thats it. I just thought it would be funny to bring this back. Last edited by BluManta; 07-04-2007 at 11:50 AM.

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07-04-2007, 12:16 AM	#2
Shin-Ra Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:5 Trading Score:1	I'd rather just look to the future at the moment, lots of great games coming!

07-04-2007, 05:47 PM	#4
takezo Active Member Member since:Aug 2006	With, new system with lot of hype, they are bound to have tons of rumors and speculations. However I have not posted at this fourm that far back, but i have told people in other forums that Nintendo will make a comeback. And so far, so good. It proves that graphics is not everything which I was trying desperately to convey. However blinded core gamers will never understand. It took a $400 video card on my PC and have it be completley outdated in less than a year later to full realize the flaws of "Next Gen gaming", and to bash this very notion of gaming with better (or at least very unique ) gameplay over graphics into my thick core gamer skull. Here I am 2 years later, with the same video card, running games at lower resolutions but not careing, have PS3 just for BLu-ray movies (Movies Must Be in HD! ), A Wii with 5 games. And Wiis Sold out all over town.

07-04-2007, 05:55 PM	#5
Gamekid Power Member Member since:Feb 2006	I remember reading a lot of material about the ps3. How it would flop and nobody would get one and no one would want to make any games for it. I think about this. Sony doesn't charge a dime for being online at the playstation store or just browsing the web. This will be expanded with HOME. Can microsoft beat this? They charge a yearly subscription for xbox live, which isn't that expensive, however you still have to pay for it compared to sony. If more people turn to HOME, then how is microsoft going to combat this?

07-04-2007, 10:06 PM	#8
Shin-Ra Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:5 Trading Score:1	I haven't told you NUFFINK'!

07-04-2007, 10:16 PM	#9
Gamekid Power Member Member since:Feb 2006	If microsoft wants to combat sony's Home program, they need something big? A price drop wouldn't cut it. Would I bet any money that when sony puts up Home, some xbox 360 fans will switch to sony and then microsoft will admit that they can't top sony's home program?

07-05-2007, 05:15 PM	#18
NeoTechni Member Member since:Jul 2007	Eastside has a point though. The negative press and Wii are affecting developer confidence. I am getting very annoyed with all the reports of some whiney developer cancelling the PS3 version, or changing it from an exclusive to a 360-shared or 360-exclusive. Now I love my PS3, but this is a problem. And despite Sony's claims that they don't pay for exclusives, maybe they should start. The 360 version of GTA is going to get more sales cause people are seeing the potential for a longer game with the exclusive content. MS will make their money back.

07-05-2007, 06:18 PM	#19
Gamekid Power Member Member since:Feb 2006	How can microsoft top sony's home program?

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