T2 ROTF Audio Poll - Blu-ray Forum

brett_day · 10-21-2009, 04:02 PM

So lots of peeps are having probs with the audio in T2 ROTF Imax version. I am wondering. How many people are bitstreaming, how many people are sending PCM, how many fall into the none of the above?

I have a PS3 and am sending PCM to my Onkyo 605 and am having no problems!

Kev1080P · 10-21-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by brett_day

So lots of peeps are having probs with the audio in T2 ROTF Imax version. I am wondering. How many people are bitstreaming, how many people are sending PCM, how many fall into the none of the above?

I have a PS3 and am sending PCM to my Onkyo 605 and am having no problems!

same with me, cept i use a 705, only thing is the dialogue from humans is low, othwerwise it sounds great

WorkShed · 10-21-2009, 04:16 PM

I also agree that for some scenes the dialogue from the real people is a little low, but it's nothing that really makes or breaks the audio for me. The sound of the first transformation of the decepticon in Shanghai went down my spine. Really cool demo disc.

Sonny · 10-21-2009, 04:27 PM

It was great to me. Also it was bit'ed to my 706 from my Panasonic BD60 & Pioneer 320.

ClaytonMG · 10-21-2009, 04:33 PM

The only issue I had was the dialogue being somewhat low. But it wasn't low to the point of not making out what the people were saying. Plus it's a Paramount title and seems to be dialnormed (which isn't a problem, just one of the reasons people are saying the track is lower).

Shallow_ · 10-21-2009, 04:35 PM

Decoding internally in Sony BDP S550, 5.1 analog connection to Parasound Halo C2. Standard ed is simply amazing, the Imax version is in the mail, hoping there are no sound problems here.

Captain Useless · 10-21-2009, 04:41 PM

I bitstream, and I have to admit that a lot of thing that I thought should have been loud seemed weak or soft. For the most part, the audio was fantastic, the surround was awesome, but some crashes came off more like splashes... pretty weak. If the non-IMAX versions don't have this issue, I may return the one I have and get that instead, unless word comes out about a replacement program. I enjoyed the few IMAX scenes there were, but the audio issue were noticeable to me and even to my wife, who is not as picky or discerning as I am. I was kind of disappointed. Since the movie was just okay, I was really needing perfection from the audio to keep me into the experience.

ClaytonMG · 10-21-2009, 04:54 PM

Now I am starting to wonder if there's not some defective copies out there. At no point did I think the sound effects were weak. The bass was powerful and packed tons of punch. Again, the only thing I noticed was that it's dialnormed and the dialogue was slightly low.

I am curious, to the people saying it sounds weak, have you ever used DRC? Does it sound kind of close to what that sounds like?

p8ntballah21 · 10-21-2009, 04:56 PM

Im running my ps3 on PCM to a 606 with no problems, sounds fantastic!

Hammie · 10-21-2009, 05:01 PM

I read somewhere else that the fact that the effects are so loud that when the people talk it appears lower than normal. That makes sense since I had my setup set at my normal listening volume for night time viewing and had no issues with dialog.

BTW, bitstreaming from an Oppo BDP-83 to a Denon 3808ci. Other specs in my sig.

ManUtd · 10-21-2009, 05:38 PM

I always bitstream, no issues with this movie.

Shallow_ · 10-21-2009, 06:24 PM

Official www.blu-ray.com review of IMAX version confirms this:

Please note: it does appear that the soundtrack accompanying this IMAX version does lack the same amount of power and heft as that found on the standard release. This is still an amazing soundtrack in every regard, but the low end isn't quite as powerful and the sound effects perhaps not quite as loud. Two scenes were sampled several times in succession: the opening studio logo sequence and the forest battle in chapter nine. The IMAX version's DTS-HD MA 5.1 soundtrack is still loud, aggressive, crystal-clear, and makes excellent use of the low end and the surround channels, but it packs just a bit less punch when compared to the standard 2.39:1 release and at the same reference volume level and utilizing the same settings on the same Blu-ray playback device.

Blu Titan · 10-21-2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by p8ntballah21

Im running my ps3 on PCM to a 606 with no problems, sounds fantastic!

Same here. Just turned the volume up from my ususal 52 to 56.

Dave_6 · 10-21-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu Titan

Same here. Just turned the volume up from my ususal 52 to 56.

That's all I did; just turn it up some!

mugupo · 10-21-2009, 06:37 PM

If people had the non slim ps3 will will PCM and the rest blu-ray player will just bit stream.

PCM willl require turn on higher volume for the same sound as bit stream.

progers13 · 10-21-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shallow_

Official www.blu-ray.com review of IMAX version confirms this:

Please note: it does appear that the soundtrack accompanying this IMAX version does lack the same amount of power and heft as that found on the standard release. This is still an amazing soundtrack in every regard, but the low end isn't quite as powerful and the sound effects perhaps not quite as loud. Two scenes were sampled several times in succession: the opening studio logo sequence and the forest battle in chapter nine. The IMAX version's DTS-HD MA 5.1 soundtrack is still loud, aggressive, crystal-clear, and makes excellent use of the low end and the surround channels, but it packs just a bit less punch when compared to the standard 2.39:1 release and at the same reference volume level and utilizing the same settings on the same Blu-ray playback device.

I read that. The reviewer says it's the definitive version to own because of the PQ, but then turns around and says the AQ is lacking by comparison. Um...so PQ makes it the best version, even though the AQ is significantly and noticably lesser??? Sorry, but AQ is every bit as important (IMHO) if not MORE important than the PQ. I haven't opened my copy and played it yet, but right now I am seriously debating returning it to get the "standard" version. Then again, if all it is...

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Originally Posted by Blu Titan

Same here. Just turned the volume up from my ususal 52 to 56.

...is Dial Norm and can be corrected by turning up the volume...? Can anyone elaborate / confirm whether the differences people are experiencing are the result of lower volume and not an inferior mix?

salsa5 · 10-21-2009, 07:12 PM

Bitstreaming for sure

Southpaw · 10-21-2009, 07:13 PM

Is it possible that the audio for the Walmart edition has a lower bitrate to compensate for the increased bitrate for Imax video scenes therefore resulting in a lower overall volume?

Hi-Def Steve · 10-21-2009, 07:17 PM

Bitstreaming and heard absolutely no problems.

lobo81865 · 10-21-2009, 07:18 PM

Bitstreaming from an Oppo BDP-83 to an Onkyo TXSR805.

View Poll Results: How are you listening to T2 ROTF? Bitstream or PCM? None?
Bitstreaming	117	41.64%
PCM	140	49.82%
None of the above	24	8.54%
Voters: 281. You may not vote on this poll

10-21-2009, 04:02 PM	#1
brett_day Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Moore, Oklahoma Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:45 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	T2 ROTF Audio Poll So lots of peeps are having probs with the audio in T2 ROTF Imax version. I am wondering. How many people are bitstreaming, how many people are sending PCM, how many fall into the none of the above? I have a PS3 and am sending PCM to my Onkyo 605 and am having no problems! Last edited by brett_day; 10-21-2009 at 04:08 PM.

10-21-2009, 04:41 PM	#7
Captain Useless Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:NC, USA Blu-ray collection:159	bitstream I bitstream, and I have to admit that a lot of thing that I thought should have been loud seemed weak or soft. For the most part, the audio was fantastic, the surround was awesome, but some crashes came off more like splashes... pretty weak. If the non-IMAX versions don't have this issue, I may return the one I have and get that instead, unless word comes out about a replacement program. I enjoyed the few IMAX scenes there were, but the audio issue were noticeable to me and even to my wife, who is not as picky or discerning as I am. I was kind of disappointed. Since the movie was just okay, I was really needing perfection from the audio to keep me into the experience.

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10-21-2009, 04:16 PM	#3
WorkShed Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2009 4K collection:729 Blu-ray collection:2491 DVD collection:37 Prime collection:12 Trading Score:1	I also agree that for some scenes the dialogue from the real people is a little low, but it's nothing that really makes or breaks the audio for me. The sound of the first transformation of the decepticon in Shanghai went down my spine. Really cool demo disc.

10-21-2009, 04:27 PM	#4
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	It was great to me. Also it was bit'ed to my 706 from my Panasonic BD60 & Pioneer 320.

10-21-2009, 04:33 PM	#5
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:833 Blu-ray collection:2370 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	The only issue I had was the dialogue being somewhat low. But it wasn't low to the point of not making out what the people were saying. Plus it's a Paramount title and seems to be dialnormed (which isn't a problem, just one of the reasons people are saying the track is lower).

10-21-2009, 04:35 PM	#6
Shallow_ Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Norway Home Theater Gallery:185 4K collection:657 Blu-ray collection:5120 Blu-ray reviews:25 Trading Score:21	Decoding internally in Sony BDP S550, 5.1 analog connection to Parasound Halo C2. Standard ed is simply amazing, the Imax version is in the mail, hoping there are no sound problems here.

10-21-2009, 04:54 PM	#8
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:833 Blu-ray collection:2370 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Now I am starting to wonder if there's not some defective copies out there. At no point did I think the sound effects were weak. The bass was powerful and packed tons of punch. Again, the only thing I noticed was that it's dialnormed and the dialogue was slightly low. I am curious, to the people saying it sounds weak, have you ever used DRC? Does it sound kind of close to what that sounds like?

10-21-2009, 04:56 PM	#9
p8ntballah21 Active Member Member since:Jan 2009 Blu-ray collection:128 Trading Score:5	Im running my ps3 on PCM to a 606 with no problems, sounds fantastic!

10-21-2009, 05:01 PM	#10
Hammie Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:May 2008 Location:Washington, DC Metro Home Theater Gallery:53 Blu-ray collection:545 DVD collection:12 Trading Score:12	I read somewhere else that the fact that the effects are so loud that when the people talk it appears lower than normal. That makes sense since I had my setup set at my normal listening volume for night time viewing and had no issues with dialog. BTW, bitstreaming from an Oppo BDP-83 to a Denon 3808ci. Other specs in my sig.

10-21-2009, 05:38 PM	#11
ManUtd Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:In my HT Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:829 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:5	I always bitstream, no issues with this movie.

10-21-2009, 06:24 PM	#12
Shallow_ Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Norway Home Theater Gallery:185 4K collection:657 Blu-ray collection:5120 Blu-ray reviews:25 Trading Score:21	Official www.blu-ray.com review of IMAX version confirms this: Please note: it does appear that the soundtrack accompanying this IMAX version does lack the same amount of power and heft as that found on the standard release. This is still an amazing soundtrack in every regard, but the low end isn't quite as powerful and the sound effects perhaps not quite as loud. Two scenes were sampled several times in succession: the opening studio logo sequence and the forest battle in chapter nine. The IMAX version's DTS-HD MA 5.1 soundtrack is still loud, aggressive, crystal-clear, and makes excellent use of the low end and the surround channels, but it packs just a bit less punch when compared to the standard 2.39:1 release and at the same reference volume level and utilizing the same settings on the same Blu-ray playback device.

10-21-2009, 06:37 PM	#15
mugupo Special Member Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:76 Blu-ray collection:50 Blu-ray reviews: 226 Trading Score:4	If people had the non slim ps3 will will PCM and the rest blu-ray player will just bit stream. PCM willl require turn on higher volume for the same sound as bit stream.

10-21-2009, 07:12 PM	#17
salsa5 Member Member since:Oct 2009	Bitstreaming for sure

10-21-2009, 07:13 PM	#18
Southpaw Active Member Member since:Oct 2007 Trading Score:1	Is it possible that the audio for the Walmart edition has a lower bitrate to compensate for the increased bitrate for Imax video scenes therefore resulting in a lower overall volume?

10-21-2009, 07:17 PM	#19
Hi-Def Steve Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Pasadena, CA 4K collection:264 Blu-ray collection:315 DVD collection:7 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:187	Bitstreaming and heard absolutely no problems.

10-21-2009, 07:18 PM	#20
lobo81865 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2008 Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:562 Blu-ray collection:3659 DVD collection:3331 MA collection:1323 Digital collection:3018 iTunes collection:1551 Prime collection:950 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:102	Bitstreaming from an Oppo BDP-83 to an Onkyo TXSR805.

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