HP threatening to side with Microsoft & Intel - Blu-ray Forum

Blue · 10-20-2005, 11:52 AM

I don't know the credibility of these reports, but life for BDA could get interesting again and presumably slow down the release of Blu Ray as the standards will need to be changed.

http://www.hdbeat.com/2005/10/20/hp-...ut-of-blu-ray/

http://www.hdbeat.com/2005/10/19/new...-managed-copy/

thunderhawk · 10-20-2005, 04:54 PM

:x
And this???

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/finan...h_down&chan=tc

Argh :|

Alex Pallas · 10-20-2005, 05:11 PM

i'm still not sure what specs they are wanting to adopt, can someone clarify this?

zombie · 10-21-2005, 01:08 AM

I'm not overly concerned. On one hand, HP will probably get the BDA to work with them to get what they want. OTOH, I don't think it'll hurt BD much since every movie studio other than Universal is now pro-BD. Thus, if HP does leave, they'll be back soon enough.

Patrick · 10-21-2005, 03:08 AM

I dont think they should include iHD in Blu-ray. Managed copy yes that fine although I wont need it cause I take good care of my disc. But not iHD and my reason is two fold. First it will make it easier to pirate movies if they do, and that makes me angry cause I feel if people want a copy they need to buy a copy. Second it will tell Microsoft that they have weight in anything they want, that all they have to do is disagree and lie about it and everyone will join them and do what they want, well Microsoft needs to be taken down a little and realize they arent where they are because they are the best, but because theres no choice right now. Stick to your Guns Blu-ray.

iceman · 10-22-2005, 02:58 PM

Mandatory Managed Copy (MMC) is now a part of the BD spec, so HP got one thing they wanted... thanks to Warner =)

They haven't decided anything about iHD yet, but it sounds like it might be included as well.

Waelan · 10-22-2005, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman

Mandatory Managed Copy (MMC) is now a part of the BD spec, so HP got one thing they wanted... thanks to Warner =)

They haven't decided anything about iHD yet, but it sounds like it might be included as well.

Wait, what do you mean thanks to Warner? I heard that when HP proposed to add managed copy, Warner threatened to leave blu-ray. Lack of manged copy is highly beneficial to movie companies and consumers. Addition of managed copy is beneficial to PC companies and pirates.

iceman · 10-22-2005, 04:11 PM

Don't shoot the messenger....

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post6399628

georgir · 10-24-2005, 03:48 AM

Patrick, explain me how will iHD make pirating the discs any easier? It's a feature completely unrelated to copy protection.

I see you posted the same crap on hdbeat.com, so you probably have some explanation for it?

Btw, I agree that including iHD as mandatory for players is unreasonable, just not quite for the reason you provide. It'll only make players more complex, having to support both iHD and the Java solution, and will also add confusion when authoring bluray discs - you have to decide which system to base your work off, etc.

10-20-2005, 11:52 AM	#1
Blue Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2005 Location:Melbourne Australia Blu-ray collection:206	HP threatening to side with Microsoft & Intel I don't know the credibility of these reports, but life for BDA could get interesting again and presumably slow down the release of Blu Ray as the standards will need to be changed. http://www.hdbeat.com/2005/10/20/hp-...ut-of-blu-ray/ http://www.hdbeat.com/2005/10/19/new...-managed-copy/

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10-20-2005, 04:54 PM	#2
thunderhawk Moderator Member since:Jul 2004 Location:Belgium	:x And this??? http://www.businessweek.com/ap/finan...h_down&chan=tc Argh :\|

10-20-2005, 05:11 PM	#3
Alex Pallas Active Member Member since:Sep 2005 Location:The Belly Of The Beast (USA)	i'm still not sure what specs they are wanting to adopt, can someone clarify this?

10-21-2005, 01:08 AM	#4
zombie Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:May 2004 Trading Score:864	I'm not overly concerned. On one hand, HP will probably get the BDA to work with them to get what they want. OTOH, I don't think it'll hurt BD much since every movie studio other than Universal is now pro-BD. Thus, if HP does leave, they'll be back soon enough.

10-21-2005, 03:08 AM	#5
Patrick Member Member since:Sep 2005	I dont think they should include iHD in Blu-ray. Managed copy yes that fine although I wont need it cause I take good care of my disc. But not iHD and my reason is two fold. First it will make it easier to pirate movies if they do, and that makes me angry cause I feel if people want a copy they need to buy a copy. Second it will tell Microsoft that they have weight in anything they want, that all they have to do is disagree and lie about it and everyone will join them and do what they want, well Microsoft needs to be taken down a little and realize they arent where they are because they are the best, but because theres no choice right now. Stick to your Guns Blu-ray.

10-22-2005, 02:58 PM	#6
iceman Developer Top contributor Member since:May 2003 Home Theater Gallery:13 4K collection:27 Blu-ray collection:121 DVD collection:26 MA collection:1 Digital collection:6 iTunes collection:10 iTunes music:2 Prime collection:3 Trading Score:1	Mandatory Managed Copy (MMC) is now a part of the BD spec, so HP got one thing they wanted... thanks to Warner =) They haven't decided anything about iHD yet, but it sounds like it might be included as well.

10-22-2005, 04:11 PM	#8
iceman Developer Top contributor Member since:May 2003 Home Theater Gallery:13 4K collection:27 Blu-ray collection:121 DVD collection:26 MA collection:1 Digital collection:6 iTunes collection:10 iTunes music:2 Prime collection:3 Trading Score:1	Don't shoot the messenger.... http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post6399628

10-24-2005, 03:48 AM	#9
georgir Active Member Member since:Mar 2005	Patrick, explain me how will iHD make pirating the discs any easier? It's a feature completely unrelated to copy protection. I see you posted the same crap on hdbeat.com, so you probably have some explanation for it? Btw, I agree that including iHD as mandatory for players is unreasonable, just not quite for the reason you provide. It'll only make players more complex, having to support both iHD and the Java solution, and will also add confusion when authoring bluray discs - you have to decide which system to base your work off, etc.

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