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Old 10-25-2009, 06:19 AM   #1
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Default The studios should stop supporting DVD's in 2-3 years. Rentals might be delayed weeks

The LA Times article link mentions possible movie rental delays starting next year.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-ct-dvd23-2009oct23,0,1148449.story?track=rss

This link mentions the BLU-RAY rentals might also be delayed several weeks
https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=3587

It would be disappointing for some BLU-RAY and DVD renters if they have to wait several weeks before being able to rent movies.
Currently over 95% of my BLU-RAY movie watching is discs I purchase myself. Since most of the movies I own I only have time to watch once I am considering doing more renting in the future.

Video rental stores are already having problems and if studios place a several week delay on being able to rent new releases on BLU-RAY or DVD it would hurt video rental stores even more.

If the studios decide to delay video rentals by several weeks then hopefully they will also have a PPV and video on demand delay also. The studios would need to delay video on demand and PPV releases in order to increase DVD and BLU-RAY sells.

If one searches the Internet there are several articles that mention how DVD piracy costs the movie industry several billions a dollars a year in lost revenue. I am totally against individual consumer piracy and professional piracy but delaying DVD rentals several weeks might increase the demand for piracy. Many consumers today purchase blank dual layer recordable DVD's for around 65 cents each and then borrow new release movies from friends and make a perfect 480I quality copy of the movie for only around 65 cents with special software and a computer. With today's fast computer drives DVD's can be burned in several minutes time. Since DVD's have poor encryption and the movie industry claims several billions of dollars are lost because of DVD piracy then it would be more logically if the industry would stop releasing movies in the DVD format within 2-3 years and only release movies on the secure BLU-RAY format that uses BD+ with renewable security. Then if the movie industry wanted to have a several week delay for BLU-RAY rentals they would not need to worry about the billions of dollars in lost revenue from DVD piracy since all new movies in 2 or 3 years would no longer be available on the unsecure DVD format.
When BLU-RAY players start to have an average price of under $100 from several companies like Sony, Panasonic, and Samsung then it will be time for the movie industry to stop production of all DVD movie discs slowly over a 2-3 year period. Every BLU-RAY player every made will play standard DVD's and they will also downconvert 1080P/24 BLU-RAY movies to 480I quality for consumers that do not want to upgrade their old TV sets.
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Old 10-25-2009, 06:48 AM   #2
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SUCKS! i normally rent anything i have not already caught and almost never blind buy, so apparently they only want my catalogue money and want to wait for my new release funds.

I wish one of these big wig decision makers would sit down with kids who bootleg these days and talk for a minute, they will realize no matter what they do they will not stop them, they care nothing for quality as long as free is attached, and wouldn't buy anything anyways! <--- last one being key, they would just wait for someone like me to buy it and catch it at some point.

They somewhere along the way got "movie stealer" confused with "movie enthusiast" and seem ever more determined to make me look like the jackass for jumping through hoops while my friends watch their free copy a month before realease off the internet from some mysterious land of leprachauns that apparently get access to these movies long before they are ever available for me to rent, and many times before i have ever even seen a release date

weeeeeeee sorry

EDIT: where do they come up with these numbers, the 1 pirate in the world willing to buy the media is gonna purchase the same amount he used to make for free or what? LMAO
bad example but if all the free porn was suddenly removed from the internet, what percentage of people would go back to $50 a title instead of the victoria secret catalogue? jesus i can't believe people get paid to make these decisions.

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Old 10-25-2009, 01:18 PM   #3
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Video rental stores are already having problems and if studios place a several week delay on being able to rent new releases on BLU-RAY or DVD it would hurt video rental stores even more.
Video rental stores are having problems because the business model is now less viable when met with more efficient competition. To put it bluntly: with competitors like Netflix, it's no longer good business savvy to run such a service as a traditional store.

Before too long, rental stores will all shut down while businesses like Netflix and Redbox strive, and not too long after that, rental will be limited entirely to streaming services I think.

But seriously, I think the people who should profit from movies are the producers and distributors, NOT a third party company renting out copies for personal use.

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The studios would need to delay video on demand and PPV releases in order to increase DVD and BLU-RAY sells.
Not necessarily, because not very many people use those sorts of services. You are right for the future, but I don't think it's an impediment to their goal for the here-and-now.

As for the quote of dropping DVD within the next 3 years, I say that's unlikely. When we get to the point of it being normal for a new release drama to top 50% market during its first week, then I'd say DVD's days are numbered. We're still quite a ways off from there though, and I don't expect adoption will necessarily be far enough along within 3 years due to the potential ceiling of HDTV market penetration.

ps one final note: the rental delay isn't just a "hey, we might slow down piracy if we do this" plot. Because it's early screener and review copies that are the primary source of the early "leak" pirate copies available on the Internet. So, it's also an incentive to purchase the media rather than RENT (rent != pirate), which means more money in the pockets of the distributors, and they even said they'd be willing to give better pricing to rental companies to make it up to them, which means it could well mean more money all around for both industries. Naturally, mom-and-pop stores get shafted with this sort of deal I'd guess, but I say, those sorts of stores will all be out of business before long due to the nature of the shift in the industry (that is, away from traditional stores and into other areas like Netflix-style deliveries, Redbox-style kiosks, and streamed rentals like Amazon or Netflix offers).
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Most movies are available online even before making it in theaters never mind on rental and DVD. Studios should start looking at their insiders more carefuly. How do these movies make it to the Internet? Who put's them there?Many of the more favorable quality movies found on the net are usualy screeners, how did they get there I wonder? who get the screeners in the first place? It's usualy not the everyday movie fan. Sure you find a lot of the movies taken straight from the screen on a mini cam or cell phone but what about the rest of the stuff?
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I think, that good use online and ppv than pirate copy dvd blank. again and again copies dvd.

I'm so afraid. people don't care about hollywood studio.
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Old 10-25-2009, 06:54 PM   #6
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I got a better idea, i remember reading somewhere they install a little spot, invisible to the naked eye, on film reels that tells them where it is, so when a cam copy etc... appears recorded on the net, the companies know where it came from. How about they do the same with screeners and such..... so they can track down the true culprits, either way they do anything that effects me and i will blame them before i blame piracy.

I agree with what was said about this maybe benefitting both industries, at least from the redbox/netflix side of things, but this will put a nail in the coffin of places like blockbuster, family video, etc... who rely on tuesday release days, and friday saturday sales of release week. Unless these movie distributers are gonna take it upon themselves to run ads just for the rental release itself, because usually the ads leading up to the purchase release date remind people oh yeah thats coming out, think i will rent it tuesday.
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