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Old 11-03-2009, 02:44 PM   #1
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Ok maybe the question sounds kind of stupid but I have never looked into dipoles much. Is the goal of dipole to get great dispersion across the back of the room? I was looking at some ways to enhance my surround stage and was looking at these :

http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Sur...262600&sr=8-15

I notice both sides have tweater(s) but the mid/woofer is only pointing inwards / one direction. Doesn't this mess up the sound? I realize high end is more directional but a woofer on a speaker like this is still going to be carrying a bit of mid range so wouldn't it also benefit from being on both sides like the tweater? I mean how effective are these if you are not sitting in the sweet spot?
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Hey Statikcat. Not sure if you've seen this, but Big Daddy has a very comprehensive thread on the matter.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=66471

Hope this helps.
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:48 PM   #3
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Ok maybe the question sounds kind of stupid but I have never looked into dipoles much. Is the goal of dipole to get great dispersion across the back of the room? I was looking at some ways to enhance my surround stage and was looking at these :

http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Sur...262600&sr=8-15

I notice both sides have tweater(s) but the mid/woofer is only pointing inwards / one direction. Doesn't this mess up the sound? I realize high end is more directional but a woofer on a speaker like this is still going to be carrying a bit of mid range so wouldn't it also benefit from being on both sides like the tweater? I mean how effective are these if you are not sitting in the sweet spot?
EDIT: Darn it..Progers beat me to it.Ahh come on Cat you are a vet here. BD has a great thread on the subject. Guide to Bipole and Dipole Speakers
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:56 PM   #4
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Ah sorry I did a search for the word "dipole" on this page but thought I was in the speaker section. I have a case of the Mondays .. on a Tuesday!
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:07 PM   #5
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:36 PM   #6
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Ok maybe the question sounds kind of stupid but I have never looked into dipoles much. Is the goal of dipole to get great dispersion across the back of the room? I was looking at some ways to enhance my surround stage and was looking at these :

http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Sur...262600&sr=8-15

I notice both sides have tweater(s) but the mid/woofer is only pointing inwards / one direction. Doesn't this mess up the sound? I realize high end is more directional but a woofer on a speaker like this is still going to be carrying a bit of mid range so wouldn't it also benefit from being on both sides like the tweater? I mean how effective are these if you are not sitting in the sweet spot?
do NOT spend that much money on a set of FXI speakers

call:
Jessica Villavicencio
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jvillavicencio@polkaudio.com
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she has FXI3's & FXI4's for sale for cheap

she works for polk and it will save you a ton of $$$

thank me later
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:17 PM   #7
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do NOT spend that much money on a set of FXI speakers

call:
Jessica Villavicencio
Sales and Operations Assistant
(ph) 410-764-5211
jvillavicencio@polkaudio.com
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she has FXI3's & FXI4's for sale for cheap

she works for polk and it will save you a ton of $$$

thank me later
Is it Friday yet???
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:03 PM   #8
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do NOT spend that much money on a set of FXI speakers

call:
Jessica Villavicencio
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(ph) 410-764-5211
jvillavicencio@polkaudio.com
Polk Audio, Inc

she has FXI3's & FXI4's for sale for cheap

she works for polk and it will save you a ton of $$$

thank me later
I hate to ask, because I might get tempted...but what's the price for FXi3's?
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:38 PM   #9
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I hate to ask, because I might get tempted...but what's the price for FXi3's?

She has them for $175 shipped. I also used bing.com and got mine off the polk ebay store and save 10% it just depends what its at, and its at 8% so you would get back $14.
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:51 PM   #10
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Is that price for a pair?
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:56 PM   #11
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Yes, that would be for the pair.
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:57 PM   #12
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Is that price for a pair?
Yes! and shipped.

Edit: Fors your fast!
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:10 AM   #13
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Bummer, I sent her an e-mail and it looks like she is out of the Fxi3's. Has the 4's, but they are quite a bit more.

Ah well...maybe I'll hold off and see if something pops up around Black Friday.
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:42 AM   #14
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Bummer, I sent her an e-mail and it looks like she is out of the Fxi3's. Has the 4's, but they are quite a bit more.

Ah well...maybe I'll hold off and see if something pops up around Black Friday.
Yea, I was lucky enough to get some of the last WHITE FXi3's, if not the FXi3's in general. The 4's are 99% the Same speaker Specs wise, just a Tiny bit different cosmetically ($279/pair, vice $175/pr for the 3's). So yea, if you don't mind waiting, maybe they'll go down a bit or the 3's might show up between now & then. I LOVE my 2 pair; for use as Side & Rear Surrounds, I have No complaints - They sound Superb!!
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Yea, I was lucky enough to get some of the last WHITE FXi3's, if not the FXi3's in general. The 4's are 99% the Same speaker Specs wise, just a Tiny bit different cosmetically ($279/pair, vice $175/pr for the 3's). So yea, if you don't mind waiting, maybe they'll go down a bit or the 3's might show up between now & then. I LOVE my 2 pair; for use as Side & Rear Surrounds, I have No complaints - They sound Superb!!
I don't have a problem waiting. 175 would be a sale. But i'd rather not pay 270 for surrounds. Plus I'm still tossing around the idea of a receiver upgrade or a harmony one remote.
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I don't have a problem waiting. 175 would be a sale. But i'd rather not pay 270 for surrounds. Plus I'm still tossing around the idea of a receiver upgrade or a harmony one remote.
What gear do you have? I don't see anything listed (?). But I can see where you're coming from. If you can wait & really want to Upgrade your AVR, it makes sense. Thru Jessica at POLK, I picked up my 2 prs' for $375 Total (including $25 shipping). They Look gorgeous & Sound great. Good luck in your search either way.
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:37 AM   #17
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What gear do you have? I don't see anything listed (?). But I can see where you're coming from. If you can wait & really want to Upgrade your AVR, it makes sense. Thru Jessica at POLK, I picked up my 2 prs' for $375 Total (including $25 shipping). They Look gorgeous & Sound great. Good luck in your search either way.
Yeah, I keep meaning to put some info and pics in the profile. I currently have a Panny G-15 (50''), Onkyo 520 receiver, Sub and surrounds are from the 520 package, Polk CS2 and monitor 60's for the front.

Upgrading the front 3 was a huge improvement and I could be content for a while, but I've gotten that itch for just one (or two) more goodies. Because my couch is on the back wall, I thought bi or di-poles would be a big help for surround sound. Under $200 would be good for me. I also see the need for a new receiver, but I can't really stomach the price right now. Chances are I'll just sit on it for now and see what develops over the next few months.
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Yea, I was lucky enough to get some of the last WHITE FXi3's, if not the FXi3's in general. The 4's are 99% the Same speaker Specs wise, just a Tiny bit different cosmetically ($279/pair, vice $175/pr for the 3's). So yea, if you don't mind waiting, maybe they'll go down a bit or the 3's might show up between now & then. I LOVE my 2 pair; for use as Side & Rear Surrounds, I have No complaints - They sound Superb!!


im buying Lou's BLACK FXI3's tomorrow
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im buying Lou's BLACK FXI3's tomorrow
I'm sure you want to off load those ugly white ones, right I happen to be in the market, if 2 sets is too much for you.
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