Worth upgrading to 1080p? - Blu-ray Forum

Owen Lol · 11-11-2009, 10:16 PM

For the holiday season I've been thinking a lot about what I wanna get. A new TV is what I really want. Currently I have a 32'' 720p TV, is the upgrade worth it? Or would it be better to just go 10'' bigger and stay 720p? I'm SO eager to find out.

dobyblue · 11-11-2009, 10:49 PM

Depends on your viewing distance and it also depends on the type of tv.
In the 2008 HDTV shootout that Home Theater Mag did there were 6 1080p sets and one 720p set and the 720p set won overall for picture quality, it was the PDP-5080FD Pioneer Kuro plasma.

Owen Lol · 11-11-2009, 11:02 PM

Seems a bit pricey.. I was kinda looking for a 42'' TV.
Something like... This? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasoni...&ref=39&loc=01

SumSuperman · 11-11-2009, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Owen Lol

Seems a bit pricey.. I was kinda looking for a 42'' TV.
Something like... This? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasoni...&ref=39&loc=01

One thing to mention about that model is that is doesn't have the anti-reflective coating that the other Panasonic models have. So, if you have a lot of light in the room that could be an issue.

TCsabres006 · 11-11-2009, 11:49 PM

When I was in the market looking for a tv and reviewed a lot of information over the course of a couple days. Basically, with any T.V. smaller than a 42 or 50 in, (i forget which it is, i think 50in) you aren't going to really notice a difference between 720p and 1080p with the human eye. If you are going for a bigger T.V. than 50in, you will notice a difference. Make sure you do your research before you make a purchase.

"Whether you're dealing with 1080p/24 or standard 1080p/60, doesn't alter our overall views about 1080p TVs. We still believe that when you're dealing with TVs 50 inches and smaller, the added resolution has only a very minor impact on picture quality. In our tests, we put 720p (or 768p) sets next to 1080p sets, then feed them both the same source material, whether it's 1080i or 1080p, from the highest-quality Blu-ray player. We typically watch both sets for a while, with eyes darting back and forth between the two, looking for differences in the most-detailed sections, such as hair, textures of fabric, and grassy plains. Bottom line: It's almost always very difficult to see any difference--especially from farther than 8 feet away on a 50-inch TV."
-Source: http://reviews.cnet.com/720p-vs-1080p-hdtv/

Beta Man · 11-12-2009, 07:53 PM

Dependent on viewing distance of course....... but I'd probably snag a cheaper 720p that will be much larger..... otherwise I wouldn't spend the money to upgrade at all.....

I'm looking for a 50" 720p Plasma for my living room right now, because I have about 10' as my viewing distance, and I also use it mostly for Satellite T.V viewing...... So a lot depends on you viewing distance/habits, etc.

aramis109 · 11-12-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TCsabres006

When I was in the market looking for a tv and reviewed a lot of information over the course of a couple days. Basically, with any T.V. smaller than a 42 or 50 in, (i forget which it is, i think 50in) you aren't going to really notice a difference between 720p and 1080p with the human eye. If you are going for a bigger T.V. than 50in, you will notice a difference. Make sure you do your research before you make a purchase.

"Whether you're dealing with 1080p/24 or standard 1080p/60, doesn't alter our overall views about 1080p TVs. We still believe that when you're dealing with TVs 50 inches and smaller, the added resolution has only a very minor impact on picture quality. In our tests, we put 720p (or 768p) sets next to 1080p sets, then feed them both the same source material, whether it's 1080i or 1080p, from the highest-quality Blu-ray player. We typically watch both sets for a while, with eyes darting back and forth between the two, looking for differences in the most-detailed sections, such as hair, textures of fabric, and grassy plains. Bottom line: It's almost always very difficult to see any difference--especially from farther than 8 feet away on a 50-inch TV."
-Source: http://reviews.cnet.com/720p-vs-1080p-hdtv/

Bolded the crux of the quote that you seemed to have glossed over. It's entirely distance-dependent as mentioned.

dobyblue · 11-17-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by aramis109

Bolded the crux of the quote that you seemed to have glossed over. It's entirely distance-dependent as mentioned.

Agreed, it's easy to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p at just about any size screen at the right distance.

Grif32 · 11-17-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

Dependent on viewing distance of course....... but I'd probably snag a cheaper 720p that will be much larger..... otherwise I wouldn't spend the money to upgrade at all.....

I'm looking for a 50" 720p Plasma for my living room right now, because I have about 10' as my viewing distance, and I also use it mostly for Satellite T.V viewing...... So a lot depends on you viewing distance/habits, etc.

This one was posted in another thread it is $669 after you put it in your cart.

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...9&sku=A2612466

bigm · 11-17-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dobyblue

Depends on your viewing distance and it also depends on the type of tv.
In the 2008 HDTV shootout that Home Theater Mag did there were 6 1080p sets and one 720p set and the 720p set won overall for picture quality, it was the PDP-5080FD Pioneer Kuro plasma.

Nice!

Suddenly I love my kuro even more

efesbe · 11-18-2009, 08:28 PM

I don't have a 1080P display but it was one of the top rated at it's time and I paid about $7K for it. I was feeling faint when 1080P came out a few years after I bought my plasma. Mine is not a Kuro but I really don't know if a NON Pioneer Elite Kuro is better than a Pioneer Elite in 2005. I don't really want to spend on another TV right now. good thing I can't afford a tv right now. Anyone think that it's worth an upgrade. Viewing distance for me is about 8ft. I guess if it was really important to me then, Yes it would be worth an upgrade. It is somewhat important since I buy BD movies now and got rid of most of my DVDs. I'm probably missing the PQ of 1080P with my blu ray.

Uniquely · 11-18-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by aramis109

Bolded the crux of the quote that you seemed to have glossed over. It's entirely distance-dependent as mentioned.

True... but that part almost goes without saying.... as the vast majority of the world (aside from those of us who know better) sits far too far away from their screen to have benefit of it's maximum resolution. I think that most people still believe the old tale that sitting too close will even damage your vision.

Toptube · 11-18-2009, 11:13 PM

While 1080p is a nice buzzword. Just getting a new tv for 1080p probably isn't worth it. If you are going to get a new tv, yes get a 1080p, but get a really awesome with excellent processing and a black level that smothers your current tv. Then you will really appreciate your new purchase.

I've seen some of my friend's average 1080p screens and sure they look good but it they don't make me forget my own tv (see sig)

My brother's 50 inch 1080p Kuro makes me forget my tv. Not because its 1080p, but because it is the richest most glorious picture I've ever seen. My tv is great with motion, and for an LCD, has a good black level and really natural colors. But gat damn that Kuro.

*im not saying Kuro or nothing. I'm saying, pic a tv that is undeniably better than your current.

11-11-2009, 10:16 PM	#1
Owen Lol Senior Member Member since:May 2009 Location:USA Home Theater Gallery:3 Blu-ray collection:68 Blu-ray reviews:28	Worth upgrading to 1080p? For the holiday season I've been thinking a lot about what I wanna get. A new TV is what I really want. Currently I have a 32'' 720p TV, is the upgrade worth it? Or would it be better to just go 10'' bigger and stay 720p? I'm SO eager to find out.

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11-11-2009, 10:49 PM	#2
dobyblue Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jul 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Home Theater Gallery:71 4K collection:55 Blu-ray collection:655 Blu-ray reviews: 15	Depends on your viewing distance and it also depends on the type of tv. In the 2008 HDTV shootout that Home Theater Mag did there were 6 1080p sets and one 720p set and the 720p set won overall for picture quality, it was the PDP-5080FD Pioneer Kuro plasma.

11-11-2009, 11:02 PM	#3
Owen Lol Senior Member Member since:May 2009 Location:USA Home Theater Gallery:3 Blu-ray collection:68 Blu-ray reviews:28	Seems a bit pricey.. I was kinda looking for a 42'' TV. Something like... This? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasoni...&ref=39&loc=01

11-11-2009, 11:49 PM	#5
TCsabres006 Active Member Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Rochester, NY 4K collection:271 Blu-ray collection:1000 DVD collection:388 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	When I was in the market looking for a tv and reviewed a lot of information over the course of a couple days. Basically, with any T.V. smaller than a 42 or 50 in, (i forget which it is, i think 50in) you aren't going to really notice a difference between 720p and 1080p with the human eye. If you are going for a bigger T.V. than 50in, you will notice a difference. Make sure you do your research before you make a purchase. "Whether you're dealing with 1080p/24 or standard 1080p/60, doesn't alter our overall views about 1080p TVs. We still believe that when you're dealing with TVs 50 inches and smaller, the added resolution has only a very minor impact on picture quality. In our tests, we put 720p (or 768p) sets next to 1080p sets, then feed them both the same source material, whether it's 1080i or 1080p, from the highest-quality Blu-ray player. We typically watch both sets for a while, with eyes darting back and forth between the two, looking for differences in the most-detailed sections, such as hair, textures of fabric, and grassy plains. Bottom line: It's almost always very difficult to see any difference--especially from farther than 8 feet away on a 50-inch TV." -Source: http://reviews.cnet.com/720p-vs-1080p-hdtv/

11-12-2009, 07:53 PM	#6
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	Dependent on viewing distance of course....... but I'd probably snag a cheaper 720p that will be much larger..... otherwise I wouldn't spend the money to upgrade at all..... I'm looking for a 50" 720p Plasma for my living room right now, because I have about 10' as my viewing distance, and I also use it mostly for Satellite T.V viewing...... So a lot depends on you viewing distance/habits, etc.

11-18-2009, 08:28 PM	#11
efesbe Active Member Member since:Dec 2008 Home Theater Gallery:24 Blu-ray collection:14	I don't have a 1080P display but it was one of the top rated at it's time and I paid about $7K for it. I was feeling faint when 1080P came out a few years after I bought my plasma. Mine is not a Kuro but I really don't know if a NON Pioneer Elite Kuro is better than a Pioneer Elite in 2005. I don't really want to spend on another TV right now. good thing I can't afford a tv right now. Anyone think that it's worth an upgrade. Viewing distance for me is about 8ft. I guess if it was really important to me then, Yes it would be worth an upgrade. It is somewhat important since I buy BD movies now and got rid of most of my DVDs. I'm probably missing the PQ of 1080P with my blu ray.

11-18-2009, 11:13 PM	#13
Toptube Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Blu-ray collection:52	While 1080p is a nice buzzword. Just getting a new tv for 1080p probably isn't worth it. If you are going to get a new tv, yes get a 1080p, but get a really awesome with excellent processing and a black level that smothers your current tv. Then you will really appreciate your new purchase. I've seen some of my friend's average 1080p screens and sure they look good but it they don't make me forget my own tv (see sig) My brother's 50 inch 1080p Kuro makes me forget my tv. Not because its 1080p, but because it is the richest most glorious picture I've ever seen. My tv is great with motion, and for an LCD, has a good black level and really natural colors. But gat damn that Kuro. *im not saying Kuro or nothing. I'm saying, pic a tv that is undeniably better than your current.

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